code 3 is out of control......

VTW, the initial infraction was a mistake, Code-3 has applogized for it and at this point your only digging yourself in deeper.

Cowboy up and let it go for goodness sake.
 
VTW,

I just thought you should know that while you were going off on your latest tangent I had PM'd Spark regarding this whole mess and how to make it right for all parties involved. CODE made a mistake. He manned up and did the right thing and apologized. Your 40 point infraction given by me will expire when SPARK GETS TO CHANGING IT. The only thing you may wind up with in this mess is an infraction for posting in the wrong forum which expires as well. That was blatant and will stand if I have it my way. So, as you can see, we are working behind the scenes to fix things. We are not unreasonable and after all, we are only human and we do make a mistake from time to time. In light of that I think you owe CODE3 an apology for slamming him the way you did and not handling it the way that it should have been handled....in private between two adults.
 
K.V. Collucci said:
That's because bribe money doesn't bounce. :D

You're late this month. ;)
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Whore!

Please, I'm low on cash...things are tight right now...but just give me three more days, you prick, and my monthly "contribution" will be in the mail.

:D
 
Spark said:
By and large I think everyone will agree that the new rules in the Exchange are working very well. Chatter is almost gone. People aren't abusing the system any more. Stuff is still being sold willy nilly. The no chatter rule is working - and even some of the vocal detractors from the beginning agree. This is good.

With regards to this specific thread:
1. I have no problem with someone saying "I'm next!" in a thread where the item has already been "sold pending funds"; it's a vital tool for the seller and allows them to avoid relisting the item. Plus, what in the world would the logic be in trying to "bump" an item that's already sold, right? That doesn't make any sense. So, in summation, Code 3 made a mistake, we all know that being 2nd or 3rd in line is acceptable posting, and the "no bump" rule is still good.
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Count me among the early detractors who actually thinks the system is working pretty well after all. I thought three days too long, but I really haven't had any trouble with selling any knives I've listed.

I'm glad to hear "next in line" is okay. It has saved me from having to relist more than once.

VTW, the icon below shows that I have supported you and your work in the past. But this has really gone on long enough IMO, and I doubt you're going to get any more apologies. As for flaming the fire, it has gone both ways from what I can see. You've threatened to leave the forums at least three times in the thread. My sentiment is that you should get busy leaving (as in stop posting, period) or get busy burying the hatchet (as in calm down and let it go).
 
K.V. Collucci said:
VTW,don't you ever, ever, post that stuff in Community again especially when it involves a moderator. Understand.....
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A Mod talking like this is completely out of line...Contempt breeds Contempt!
No-one would ever get away with talking to me like this "in private between two adults" without getting a boot up his Ass!

This whole issue was Horse Shit and handled by amateurs and was inflamed by the responce of the Moderators.
 
1whobuys said:
This whole issue was Horse Shit and handled by amateurs and was inflamed by the responce of the Moderators.
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You're absolutely right. Maybe you'd like to pony up the cash to start paying the mods, thereby upgrading their status to professionals? :D
 
It's not real life, it's the internet. Perhaps counterintuitively, the best way to win an argument on the internet is to stop arguing. Stop digging the hole, stop fanning the flames, stop the rhetorical escalation, and amazingly someone will say they wish the argument had never started. But that will never happen while we continue to push them back into that corner.

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The question came up again, why doesn't everyone who commits the same infraction get dinged, why only some? The mods answer this one again and again as well: they can't see all the infractions. We have very few mods for a site this size and a lot of what goes wrong slips past.

If you see it and don't report it, don't complain a mod didn't deal with it. Click the little yellow triangle with an exclamation point in it to report any problem you think a mod should see.

Some people think the mods are too strict and some say they let too much go. Read that last line again and :D
 
After about an hour of sifting through the threads dealing with this particular issue, I can honestly say that... Well, I'm glad I was late to this "party"! :) But something did come to my attention...

*With a growing community, new rules are created and tested to improve a community, and with each change or newly created rule, more rules must be remembered & properly followed...
*...But, we're all human, and mistakes are BOUND to happen as no one person is perfect, or right 100%...

I may be blind to this as I've so far never been "gig'd" but I don't remember seeing any specific procedure or course of action for properly disputing a violation, should one think that he or she has been inproperly charged with an offense (forum violation or warning). Since this community is growing, and more rules are needed to maintain an orderly forum, and more "gigs" are being issued in the course of maintaining the civility... Maybe it's time to develope a set of procedures for all forumites to specifically follow in the event of future situations similar to the situation between valleytinworks and CODE 3. Maybe similar to a "traffic court", a forum for appealing these infractions? Either way respect and cool tempers should be maintained, but with a proper course of action for disputes to be "argued" in front of a judging or ruling panel of Mods, perhaps seriously fast flame-ups on these types of issues may be avoided...

This is a learning experience, let's learn from it. :thumbup: JMHO

One quick note... Hats off to Progunner for trying to cool down the situation as it unfolded. :thumbup: I just feel he deserves a bit of positive recognition. :D:thumbup:

Jaxx:cool:
 
Jaxx said:

One quick note... Hats off to Progunner for trying to cool down the situation as it unfolded. :thumbup: I just feel he deserves a bit of positive recognition. :D:thumbup:

Jaxx:cool:
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Right on, Brother.
 
Seems everyone agreed that it was a mistake. I think that's pretty cool considering the state of things!!!!
 
Ok, I've had some time to think about things and here's how I'm going to handle it. The other infractions have already been reversed. I have to run (I'm already late) to meet my girlfriend, but when I get home, I'm going to reverse VTW's current infraction of mod sass (which never expires) and replace it with a custom one that will expire in a month. I don't think he was deliberately trying to be a douchebag, no matter what the intent, and he's a good member of the community.

Anyone else have an issue?
 
Stay cool, people. All of us have had differences with others in our lives, even with our best friends, on a number of occasions.

You don't start writing folks off just because you have differences in opinion with them or because of a misunderstanding, even if the exchange becomes heated at times.

This was a misunderstanding magnified by a mistake. Please keep that in perspective when judging our friends involved here.

The individuals that are affected by this perceived injustice are trying to iron out this misunderstanding. Everyone keeping their eye on the key hole is the most important thing here and there's absolutely no need to overreact or to be be too harsh in your judgment with these folks. We are on the same team and there will be differences in opinion at times, so keep it in perspective.



























Besides, out of all the years Ive been here, I've never been given infraction points.:p :D

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I was writing this at the same time Spark was posting his last post.
 
1whobuys said:
A Mod talking like this is completely out of line...Contempt breeds Contempt!
No-one would ever get away with talking to me like this "in private between two adults" without getting a boot up his Ass!

This whole issue was Horse Shit and handled by amateurs and was inflamed by the responce of the Moderators.
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VTW had total disregard for the rules of the forum and called out a mod in the incorrect forum. He knew he was posting in the wrong forum and chose to do so anyway even when the rules clearly state that it is not allowed. He posted that thread without giving CODE3 the courtesy of defending his decision and he jumped the gun when it came to posting it. When the rules are blatantly broken you can expect to be called out on the carpet for it. I will not apologize for doing the job I was tasked with especially when it was a blatant violation of the rules.

Respect given is respect earned and in VTW's case he lacked giving it and sure has hell lost any respect I had for him.

Like I stated early mistakes were made and those who made those mistakes manned up and aplogized for them. Yet I still don't see VTW stepping up and doing his share of the apologizing.

This whole conflict could have been avoided if VTW simply PM'd CODE3 and asking for clarification on the infraction. CODE3 would have seen his error and it could have benn handled properly. But I already said that earlier. I guess you missed that.
 
RWS said:
out of all the years Ive been here, I've never been given infraction points.:p :D
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Dear RWS,

You have received an infraction at BladeForums.com.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh....php?p=123456

Reason: Excessive smugness over not getting any infractions
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This infraction is worth 40 point(s) and may result in reduced smugness until it expires. Serious smugness will result in a beeyotch-slapping.

All the best,
BladeForums.com
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(courtesy of the anti-smugness league)
 
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