Pardon me, i could be wrong and this could get me banned, but aren't we all supposed to be enthusiastic about knives "in general" ..and over and over again I see on these forums a certain "elitism". "Oooh, that knife is UGLY", or "This knife is made by THE hottest maker on the scene right now".. . I understand not everyone is a big CS fan, i own a few of their products however, and one thing I can say is they're build solidly and sharp out of the box. I've yet to break one. Don't we have enough people criticizing our hobby with out us criticizing each other? If this is intended to be an "Elite Forum" for "Elite Makers" and people with large amounts of disposable income to salivate over every new offering, then in my opinion, you shouldn't allow us with limited funding in the door. You can all discuss "So and So's" or "So Co's" latest fantastic offering in wondersteel" over twelve dollar cigars and twenty dollar a shot scotch, but i'd wager there's a LOT more fellows like myself out there with a six pack of Bud light and a CS in our pocket.