Cold Steel Chaos has arrived

comeandtakeit said:
Not planning on trench warfare, but if I was still active duty this would prob replace my kabar in my E&E bag. Something to have and hope to never use just like any self defense tool or weapon you would own.
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The design is single in its purpose - to kill.

The history of this design is easy to find and its design intent, it is not a tool or a defensive weapon.

As a knife enthusiast I am often up against the anti-knife standpoint of those socially conditioned to believe that knives are weapons and weapons only.
Trying to convince someone of that ilk that my edc knife is a utility tool is often fruitless.

This design of knife only reinforces their attitude.
 
Jaytaylor said:
The design is single in its purpose - to kill.

The history of this design is easy to find and its design intent, it is not a tool or a defensive weapon.

As a knife enthusiast I am often up against the anti-knife standpoint of those socially conditioned to believe that knives are weapons and weapons only.
Trying to convince someone of that ilk that my edc knife is a utility tool is often fruitless.

This design of knife only reinforces their attitude.
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Not sure what point you're making? There shouldn't be "weapon" knives because stupid people can't tell apart utility from combat?
 
Jaytaylor said:
The design is single in its purpose - to kill.

The history of this design is easy to find and its design intent, it is not a tool or a defensive weapon.

As a knife enthusiast I am often up against the anti-knife standpoint of those socially conditioned to believe that knives are weapons and weapons only.
Trying to convince someone of that ilk that my edc knife is a utility tool is often fruitless.

This design of knife only reinforces their attitude.
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Tough titty, so the rest are supposed to toe your line because of that?
 
singularity35 said:
Tough titty, so the rest are supposed to toe your line because of that?
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Nice constructive post there, I guess you're stalking me after that nonsense axis lock thread eh?
If you only want opinions you would like to hear then go entertain yourself in front of a mirror.
 
DShiflet said:
Not sure what point you're making? There shouldn't be "weapon" knives because stupid people can't tell apart utility from combat?
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Ok, the points are;

It is not a tool,
It is not utility,
It is a weapon,
It reinforces the negative typecasts of this hobby.
 
I'm a serious fan :D. Great design. It's a great alternative for anyone wanting a knuckle trench knife without going custom, which is almost the only way to go otherwise. I like the skull knuckle design also, often more comfy than the four holed variants. I have not ruled out getting one of my own.
 
Negative typecasts or not this design is a piece of history and has its place. When Busse makes a Roman Gladius is that not cool? I mean the Gladius probably killed many more people than the trench knife.
 
I think its an interesting knife that I wouldn't mind having in my collection. I think its funny to read all the Cold Steel hate posts :)

If Busse released the same knife in Infi and called it the Nuclear Holocaust Battle Widow the same haters would be on that subforum talking about how its the greatest thing since sliced bread :p
 
As much as I don't care for the knife, and really the design overall, I find it ridiculous to imagine that it's mere existence is damaging to the hobby.
 
Jaytaylor said:
Ok, the points are;

It is not a tool,
It is not utility,
It is a weapon,
It reinforces the negative typecasts of this hobby.
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I strongly agree, and posted that same opinion weeks ago on this very thread...

marcinek said:
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As for the knife, I'm glad it works for you, I hope when you get one, that you enjoy doing whatever you plan doing with it.

And I'm sure Cold Steel wont be able to make those thing fast enough. Sell like hotcakes at a fat guy convention.

That said, in my opinion, two thumbs up to Cold Steel again, for further promoting the idea that knife users are stab-happy. We need more of that, because right now the general public think we are sensible people who use our knives as tools. :rolleyes:

In my opinion, that is the silliest piece of ninja-ry I've seen in a long time.
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Reading thru this thread and I am pretty disappointed at this community. I see people giving praise to funky looking expensive knives most days on here but you won't find anyone down talking them unless they are made of bad steel or whatever but this knife is attacked? On a knife forum?

I am seeing people say that it isn't useful because its not a tool and only can be used as a weapon and they wouldn't have it cause it's illegal to carry...

How many of you guys own a sword? The hardcore guys on here own at least one I can bet you. And more than likely some of you naysayers own one too. Do you guys also own a machete? Not able to carry those in public in most places either. Why do you own that then?

If the OP likes the knife let him show it off. He is a proud owner. You guys should take his lead and not worry about what everyone else thinks about it. This makes me feel like I am surrounded by 6th grade girls bitching about which nail polish is better and some poor girl breaks out some different color.
 
P_Meticulous said:
Agreed :thumbup:

This thread is a prime example of why you need to post a "troll disclaimer" :D
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1085457-Daggers-amp-Spear-Points

The amount of trolling done on bladeforums is, at times, excessive to say the least.. I came here to learn about a broad range of knives (originally coming from the BM dealer forum).. But there are some big egos here.. It's simple, don't post if you don't have something of value to say.. The OP likes the blade, no-one cares if you don't.. If we all liked the same knives, (an example I see with Chris Reeve's blades here on BF - the knife world would be one boring place).
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Interesting post. I don't quite see where the trolling ocurred in the thread you linked to.

I agree strongly with your claim that "If we all liked the same knives, ... the knife world would be one boring place." The same holds for "dislike." People here are passionate about knives and have strong opinions that don't always match. I'm not sure how expressing one's like or dislike for any knife constitutes trolling or "big egos." Maybe that's why I missed it in the thread you linked to. :confused:

Oh well. As you say, in effect, de gustibus. Hope the OP enjoys the knife, I just happen to believe it feeds into a negative stereotype of knife users and, worse, is silly looking.
 
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Jaytaylor said:
Ok, the points are;

It is not a tool,
It is not utility,
It is a weapon,
It reinforces the negative typecasts of this hobby.
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Ridiculous. You could use the same argument against any firearm in an effort to repeal the 2nd amendment.

Do you think the Busse Argonne Assault is also not a tool, has no utility, and just a weapon that reinforces negative typecasts of knife owners?
 
By the way, legal problems aside, in what way would this knife be so useless for anything other than killing people anyway? A lot of knives have D-guards as a way to protect the hand during use, nothing strange about that. A lot of people don't like a double edge because of the risk of cutting yourself, but that's easily avoided by keeping your hands off the blade. And yes, it means you can't baton or push the spine for extra cutting power, but a back edge can be good to have for other things, like pull cutting ropes and other things for an example. Having an extra edge means you're not gonna have to sharpen so often neither.
 
marcinek said:
Interesting post. I don't quite see where the trolling ocurred in the thread you linked to..
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You just proved my point, that was my intention. I knew that if I didn't post a troll-disclaimer (as silly as that sounds lol - but needed) my thread would soon attract the retarded comments bashing dagger designs and all that nonsense I've seen in this thread.. My thread was merely for people who *liked them, don't really care to here about others who don't, for me it's simple - if you don't like it, don't post.

Too many followers that can't think for themselves..........
 
brandonnash said:
Reading thru this thread and I am pretty disappointed at this community. I see people giving praise to funky looking expensive knives most days on here but you won't find anyone down talking them unless they are made of bad steel or whatever but this knife is attacked? On a knife forum?

I am seeing people say that it isn't useful because its not a tool and only can be used as a weapon and they wouldn't have it cause it's illegal to carry...

How many of you guys own a sword? The hardcore guys on here own at least one I can bet you. And more than likely some of you naysayers own one too. Do you guys also own a machete? Not able to carry those in public in most places either. Why do you own that then?

If the OP likes the knife let him show it off. He is a proud owner. You guys should take his lead and not worry about what everyone else thinks about it. This makes me feel like I am surrounded by 6th grade girls bitching about which nail polish is better and some poor girl breaks out some different color.
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Agreed LOL
 
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