Cold steel Great sword breaking on tosh.0

GrinderMcgee said:
Have to agree with some others here. Tosh was being very reckless and ignorant with the sword and no safety gear. It is a bummer it broke, but he clearly doesn't know squat about technique. Just beligerant horse play BS.
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I agree completely, but what he is doing is not much different from what happens on the CS vids.

Monkey see, monkey do....
 
I would like to see systematically gathered data about the quality control of production knives and swords. I'm really wary of judging a company that I have had dozens of good experiences with on the basis of single reports that I can't further investigate.

Here's a crazy idea: a sub forum at BF devoted to gathering data on the quality control of factory knives. It wouldn't be a perfect way of gathering data -- but it could potentially be a way of gathering ENOUGH data to show general trends in the quality control of blades.

How would it work? When someone orders a knife they report what they ordered in a thread. When the knife comes they report the presence of any defects. If something fishy happens to their blade at some point they update the post and add to the description of the knife that it failed in a specific way at a specific time.

When enough data has been posted somebody would make an excel spreadsheet about the number of initial lemons vs. good knives per manufacturer -- and the number of defects and catastrophic failures that emerge later on in the use of the knife.

There could be ways of expanding this if the basic idea I've outlined works (compare number of defects in fixed blades and folders by manufacturer, compare the relative quality of Taiwan produced Cold Steel knives to Japan built knives -- and Golden Co Spydercos to Seki Spydercos -- and Taiwan knives for all manufacturers to US knives from all manufacturers, etc.)...

I know that this system is not foolproof. People might over-report failures among certain manufacturers, or people who buy some particular brand might be less demanding in terms of what they think a failure or defect is, etc. -- but that's partly why I would hope the data to be gathered going forward (people would probably overreport failures-to-good experiences, and because of this manufacturers that make and sell MORE knives would appear to make bad knives)...
 
I wonder if Cold steel has ever been sued because someone was injured duplicating their tests. They don't have a disclaimer at the beginning of each video like they should if they don't want people duplicating their tests.
 
I wont link to the river-named site that this review is from...I am not spotting any deals, trust me.

Still, this is from last year, and I thought it was funny...and it is another persons thoughts on the "great" sword.
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31 of 38 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars I have to return some videotapes..., May 9, 2010
By
G. Recipient "The "Rear" Admiral" (Phoenix) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)
This review is from: Cold Steel Two Handed Great Sword with Leather Wrapped Handle (Leather Sheath) (Sports)
For several years I would venture out once a month or so to select a suitable woman of the night and bring her back to the safehouse. After releasing my poison I would usually rely on either a chainsaw or a large axe to strike fear in their eyes and dismember the evidence for easy disposal in an unmarked location in the desert. A side note here, you gotta have the hole already dug before you show up with a package in the trunk. Otherwise, you're talking about a half-hour to forty-five minutes worth of digging. And who knows who's gonna come along in that time? Pretty soon, you gotta dig a few more holes. You could be there all night.

Back to the review; when using an axe or chainsaw it's really messy. A chainsaw is fast an efficient but loud and it flings bits of flesh and bone all over the walls and makes clean up a real problem, even with the stain fighting power of Oxiclean.

The axe is not as messy but it's slow and with no motor noise to cover the screams you have to have a roll of duct tape or a ballgag handy and it still takes a lot of cleanup.

All my speed, noise and cleaning problems are a thing of the past now that I purchased a Cold Steel Two Hand Great Sword. It's GREAT! (Pun intended). It can slice right through the skull of a tweaked out call girl with ease in one simple swing. Less swings mean less mess. It also means I don't need to gag the streetwalker anymore with the fantastic stabbing feature as shown in the video. It goes right through a car hood with a bit of force but it severs vocal chords like a hot knife through butter.

The cutting power is tremendous. When I saw the pig carcasses I was skeptical since they are smaller than the average hooker but the shiny blade moves through arms and legs like Patton through Sicily. It should be noted however that when delimbing a fat prostitute it may take more than one swing.

The sword also makes a fantastic home defense tool on the rare occasion that Guido the Killer Pimp, and those of his ilk, tracks me down to collect his merchandise. Recently, a pimp named Don Luscious showed up my door with a chalice of Hennessey in one hand and a pearl handled 25 auto in the other demanding restitution for one of his girls who had gone missing. I simply picked up my Cold Steel Great Sword and cut of his hands in a single swipe. He screamed in pain and I couldn't resist saying "No, I... am your father. Search your feelings; you know it to be true." Then I laughed manically at my own joke. This was also a perfect time to test the boot cut as seen in the video. I raised the sword and swung downwards towards his green lizard skin wingtips. Just like the video I was staring as a cross section of shoe and a bunch of raw meat.
The Cold Steel Two Handed Great Sword even helped me feed a cat to an ATM machine and I use it to slice vegetables when making my version of Minestrone soup. Buy with confidence, you will not be disappointed.
 
Tripton said:
I wont link to the river-named site that this review is from...I am not spotting any deals, trust me.

Still, this is from last year, and I thought it was funny...and it is another persons thoughts on the "great" sword.
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31 of 38 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars I have to return some videotapes..., May 9, 2010
By
G. Recipient "The "Rear" Admiral" (Phoenix) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)
This review is from: Cold Steel Two Handed Great Sword with Leather Wrapped Handle (Leather Sheath) (Sports)
For several years I would venture out once a month or so to select a suitable woman of the night and bring her back to the safehouse. After releasing my poison I would usually rely on either a chainsaw or a large axe to strike fear in their eyes and dismember the evidence for easy disposal in an unmarked location in the desert. A side note here, you gotta have the hole already dug before you show up with a package in the trunk. Otherwise, you're talking about a half-hour to forty-five minutes worth of digging. And who knows who's gonna come along in that time? Pretty soon, you gotta dig a few more holes. You could be there all night.

Back to the review; when using an axe or chainsaw it's really messy. A chainsaw is fast an efficient but loud and it flings bits of flesh and bone all over the walls and makes clean up a real problem, even with the stain fighting power of Oxiclean.

The axe is not as messy but it's slow and with no motor noise to cover the screams you have to have a roll of duct tape or a ballgag handy and it still takes a lot of cleanup.

All my speed, noise and cleaning problems are a thing of the past now that I purchased a Cold Steel Two Hand Great Sword. It's GREAT! (Pun intended). It can slice right through the skull of a tweaked out call girl with ease in one simple swing. Less swings mean less mess. It also means I don't need to gag the streetwalker anymore with the fantastic stabbing feature as shown in the video. It goes right through a car hood with a bit of force but it severs vocal chords like a hot knife through butter.

The cutting power is tremendous. When I saw the pig carcasses I was skeptical since they are smaller than the average hooker but the shiny blade moves through arms and legs like Patton through Sicily. It should be noted however that when delimbing a fat prostitute it may take more than one swing.

The sword also makes a fantastic home defense tool on the rare occasion that Guido the Killer Pimp, and those of his ilk, tracks me down to collect his merchandise. Recently, a pimp named Don Luscious showed up my door with a chalice of Hennessey in one hand and a pearl handled 25 auto in the other demanding restitution for one of his girls who had gone missing. I simply picked up my Cold Steel Great Sword and cut of his hands in a single swipe. He screamed in pain and I couldn't resist saying "No, I... am your father. Search your feelings; you know it to be true." Then I laughed manically at my own joke. This was also a perfect time to test the boot cut as seen in the video. I raised the sword and swung downwards towards his green lizard skin wingtips. Just like the video I was staring as a cross section of shoe and a bunch of raw meat.
The Cold Steel Two Handed Great Sword even helped me feed a cat to an ATM machine and I use it to slice vegetables when making my version of Minestrone soup. Buy with confidence, you will not be disappointed.
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good post,,,,,,,,i'm sure the cold steel haters will be here soon,i am sure the ones bashing the sword have never owned one........
 
I think he explains it fairly well on the video.
Most of the stuff on the video wasn't overly strenuous. Chopping wood, howerer, will destroy any sword. Once he got to the water cooler the pommel was bent, I would have stopped there. And it was definitely missing after that.

IMO this guy has a good shot at a Darwin award.
 
Tripton said:
I wont link to the river-named site that this review is from...I am not spotting any deals, trust me.

Still, this is from last year, and I thought it was funny...and it is another persons thoughts on the "great" sword.
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31 of 38 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars I have to return some videotapes..., May 9, 2010
By
G. Recipient "The "Rear" Admiral" (Phoenix) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)
This review is from: Cold Steel Two Handed Great Sword with Leather Wrapped Handle (Leather Sheath) (Sports)
For several years I would venture out once a month or so to select a suitable woman of the night and bring her back to the safehouse. After releasing my poison I would usually rely on either a chainsaw or a large axe to strike fear in their eyes and dismember the evidence for easy disposal in an unmarked location in the desert. A side note here, you gotta have the hole already dug before you show up with a package in the trunk. Otherwise, you're talking about a half-hour to forty-five minutes worth of digging. And who knows who's gonna come along in that time? Pretty soon, you gotta dig a few more holes. You could be there all night.

Back to the review; when using an axe or chainsaw it's really messy. A chainsaw is fast an efficient but loud and it flings bits of flesh and bone all over the walls and makes clean up a real problem, even with the stain fighting power of Oxiclean.

The axe is not as messy but it's slow and with no motor noise to cover the screams you have to have a roll of duct tape or a ballgag handy and it still takes a lot of cleanup.

All my speed, noise and cleaning problems are a thing of the past now that I purchased a Cold Steel Two Hand Great Sword. It's GREAT! (Pun intended). It can slice right through the skull of a tweaked out call girl with ease in one simple swing. Less swings mean less mess. It also means I don't need to gag the streetwalker anymore with the fantastic stabbing feature as shown in the video. It goes right through a car hood with a bit of force but it severs vocal chords like a hot knife through butter.

The cutting power is tremendous. When I saw the pig carcasses I was skeptical since they are smaller than the average hooker but the shiny blade moves through arms and legs like Patton through Sicily. It should be noted however that when delimbing a fat prostitute it may take more than one swing.

The sword also makes a fantastic home defense tool on the rare occasion that Guido the Killer Pimp, and those of his ilk, tracks me down to collect his merchandise. Recently, a pimp named Don Luscious showed up my door with a chalice of Hennessey in one hand and a pearl handled 25 auto in the other demanding restitution for one of his girls who had gone missing. I simply picked up my Cold Steel Great Sword and cut of his hands in a single swipe. He screamed in pain and I couldn't resist saying "No, I... am your father. Search your feelings; you know it to be true." Then I laughed manically at my own joke. This was also a perfect time to test the boot cut as seen in the video. I raised the sword and swung downwards towards his green lizard skin wingtips. Just like the video I was staring as a cross section of shoe and a bunch of raw meat.
The Cold Steel Two Handed Great Sword even helped me feed a cat to an ATM machine and I use it to slice vegetables when making my version of Minestrone soup. Buy with confidence, you will not be disappointed.
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BRILLIANT. :thumbup: Oh, man, that is just my kind of twisted humour. :D
 
Joshua J. said:
I think he explains it fairly well on the video.
Most of the stuff on the video wasn't overly strenuous. Chopping wood, howerer, will destroy any sword. Once he got to the water cooler the pommel was bent, I would have stopped there. And it was definitely missing after that.

IMO this guy has a good shot at a Darwin award.
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Youre right. The chopping of wood is far more strenuous than the chopping of cinderblocks, car hoods, and pig bodies. :rolleyes:
 
Cotherion said:
?...I believe the pommel was damaged cause he threw it (dart style) at the wall. Likely it fell out of the wall cause of a bad throw and fell on the pommel therefore kaputting it. For me the chopping or whacking or stabbing actions/forces could not have resulted in a bend in the pommel like shown in post 62 by hardheart. Only a direct force on the pommel could have caused that. :)
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I agree. Throwing my (totally amateur) hat into the 'legal speculation ring' I think it is more likely that the cameraman would have a better case against Tosh than either of them would have against CS or Lynn. CS didn't advertise the use of a sword with a broken pommel. Tosh clearly endangered the camera guy by doing something stupid with a damaged sword.
 
Other than the pommel failure, I was sort of impressed that the sword didn't break sooner. There seemed to be a decent amount of flex, i only wonder what the edge looked like after all that.

The first thing I was taught about swords was that you don't hit them on anything hard, period, because there is always the potential for the blade to break, even on the most well made sword. I was told more people die from whacking swords against hard objects and ricocheting the broken blade (like the knife infomercial guy) back at themselves.

I've looked at and handled a few CS replica old world arms at the local knife store and they all seemed the same to me, like you could hit them on something a few times then they'd probably break.

I looked up the retail of the two hander and its $550. For that you could get a decent handmade, heat treated spring steel katana.

I must be a little bit of a mall ninja because splitting pumpkins and rolled mats with a sword and sticking them with throwing knives is my idea of a fun afternoon.

Come to think of it I'd love to be in a CS promo video a long as I could wear a stab vest, chain-mail gloves and a full face shield. You can't tell me chopping a pig carcass in half wouldn't be fun. Their videos make me hungry too, I think about all the good meat they're wasting...

Their response was funny, saying all the stuff Tosh was doing was wrong when they weren't any better, like their presentation was a documentary shot by a third party.

Also remember, the show doesn't have to play in chronological order. The log scene was probably shot before the Abraham scene. Costumes, another actor and a set takes a little more time and thought than smashing things outside and around the office, making me think the sacrifice scene was shot last.
 
Arguing about a sword broken by Daniel Tosh...Priceless!!!

It is about as meaningful as arguing about weather or not an ape used bad throwing mechanics as he flung poo at a zoo patron!

This is a comedy show....perhaps some comedians have PhDs in Physics AND are professional swordsmen, but I doubt it is a prerequisite!

Tosh probably knows nothing about 90% of what he does...and he does not have to in order to be funny. Do you guys ever watch the show? It is amazing he has not been sued MANY times (perhaps he has). That is what makes it funny at times, and most successful comedians push these boundaries of taste and safety.

Was it the sword's fault or Daniel's?...I doubt anyone complained or sought warranty, so who cares?
 
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mysticlotus said:
Cold Steel actually responded to this Tosh.0 segment:
http://blog.coldsteel.com/2011/02/two-handed-greatsword-tosh0.html
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lol, yeah, stupid Tosh for trying to do activities very similar to those we do to advertise the sword. Where on earth would he get the impression that it could take abuse like that?

I like how they keep centering on eye protection. "If that cameraman had worn eye protection, and the blade had shot out at him at 20 miles per hour, it simply would have bounced off of his chest."

What protection would have been sufficient for them? Can we have a look at CS' camera man's protection? Is he wearing chainmail? What would do it?

This is nonsense. But I suppose it's good to put up a little public statement right before the non stop litigation from people imitating Tosh.0 (imitating CS).

And yes, there's almost certainly a case of action for injuries caused by using a sword this way. I wouldn't say it's a guaranteed winner though.

And I never noticed, but you're right, it's totally shocking that there's no disclaimer here. If you see a sports car commercial drifting around corners it's always "closed road/professional driver, don't try." They're not saying the car can't do what's advertised, they're saying it'd be stupid to find out, and that's a fine distinction. CS' in-house, in the unlikely event that they have any (they don't have any in-house manufacturing, so I rather doubt they'd have counsel) must be pulling their hair out at the moment.
 
is there a rwquirement to have a disclaimer on a youtube video, or is everyone saying there's no disclaimer on the proof dvd that these clips are lifted from?

and who gets sued, Tosh, or CS? Seems a little muddy with the "imitating Tosh.0 (imitating CS)"

If someone watches a Mythbusters clip missing the disclaimer, where they are testing a myth/movie magic, and then injures themselves, who do they sue, the youtube uploader, youtube themselves, mythbusters, or the movie where the stunt originated?

Do they even have a case? What if they try to catch arrows like the ninja dude did on the show, but take one in the eye? There was a lack of safety glasses there. Did we not expect an ounce of common sense from people at all these days?
 
unit said:
On that link:


Were they referring to the Cold Steel video, or Tosh.0? Because eye protection was omitted during MANY cuts on both videos.
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eye protection

plywood target
copper pipe
pig head
pull ups
side of beef
meat boots
cow skull
ice
cinder block
car hood
chainmail

no eye protection

beef roast
tatami mats
bamboo
cardboard tube
rope
balloon
pigs
drum
pork ribs
pork leg
plastic garbage can

Seems ok, they could have used eyepro on the bamboo
 
i just watched the video again and its very clear that this sword is falsely marketed its shown that it can be carried into battle during the zombie apocalypse and used to defend life and limb, but its obviously just an over priced wall hanger. if you wanna get technical cutting anything other then flash and bones with a sword is gross abuse and not what a sword is designed for. bokkens and rapiers are for sword fighting and fencing, axes are for wood, sledge hammers are for cement. and if your in a situation where you need to stab a car or do pull ups with your sword please just kiss your ass good bye. ive been slowly realizing that lynn thompson was outta his frickin mind but this just proves it (as if i a meat bicycle wasnt enough *sigh*). i can only wait to see what dvd he puts out next week proving how his sword can be used and abused if done so properly, after they remake the sword properly. cold steel should stand up and just admit they made a bad product it happens. yes they have the disclaimer on the dvds saying dont do this so you dont get hurt, and so you dont void your warrant. they also leave out in the dvds how frequently they change out the sword they are beating the crap of so it doesnt break like that (false advertising if you ask me because you are lead to believe its the same sword the whole segment) im sure this is because the swords are made cheap and they never thought that would happen..
 
There are two things.

One - when somebody is chopping, one would never place himself in FRONT of the act of chopping. What were they thinking. Every tool, no matter how tough can break, or the operator can loose his grip. That was clearly stupid. And it is Toshi problem

Two - NO action made by Toshi on the video (maybe they tried something other off the camera) was beyond the actions shown on Cold steel videos. Throwing sword in car bonnet and cutting two pigs in half is the same leage as coffee machine and chopping wood. And Lynn shows that you can do any of those things and sword will not be damaged. It is a PROOF, after all.And it is Cold steel problem...
 
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