Cold Steel tests the Sebenza against their Cold Steel Code 4

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Great discussion, thanks op loved reading through this, I love lots of knives including Cold Steel's and Sebenza's although I favor the 25. I own and used lots of knives that are not as strong as triad locks but I love that Cold Steel is doing this and hope they keep it up. I just wish someone from CS would call me and ask what knives to test.
 
Over 200 posts in 2 days? This had to have started out in GKD. In other news, this test doesn't mean a thing to me. Didn't watch the video, but I'm sure it's entertaining watching things break.
 
Well, it would be nice to know that my sebbie could help me drag myself back onto the ice, without the blade snapping over my fingers, if go through.

Now I'm not so sure anymore. Maybe they would find my frozen ass stiffie next to a half open sebenza and some fingers?
 
Well, it would be nice to know that my sebbie could help me drag myself back onto the ice, without the blade snapping over my fingers, if go through.

Now I'm not so sure anymore. Maybe they would find my frozen ass stiffie next to a half open sebenza and some fingers?

If you're out playing on ice that's thin enough to go through, you living or dying will satisfy Darwin either way.
 
Well, it would be nice to know that my sebbie could help me drag myself back onto the ice, without the blade snapping over my fingers, if go through.

Now I'm not so sure anymore. Maybe they would find my frozen ass stiffie next to a half open sebenza and some fingers?

I would certainly hope that you wouldn't rely on a folder of any kind to save your life in that situation..
 
Haven't read any of the comments at all, but the whole test is null and void because he wrist flicked it at about 2:13 :D
 
If you're out playing on ice that's thin enough to go through, you living or dying will satisfy Darwin either way.

No comment, just out of line. Butthurt?

I would certainly hope that you wouldn't rely on a folder of any kind to save your life in that situation..

No, was just thinking "what if", there could be several situations where you'd need a spike of some sort to save your life. And if you EDC a sebenza, well that's it.
 
When I take a look at my sebenza, the locking action, and think of what happened in that vid, it just doesn't make any sense. Something is off..
I can only think off 2, maybe three scenarios.

1. Both sebenzas were tampered with. Oil on lock surface etc.

2. Both sebenzas was faulty from factory. Not likely, but still.

3. Somehow the setup of the test makes the locking action just not functioning like it should. Pressures when mouting the knives up to the test fixtures wich make the lockbar unstable?

I also believe this test will shortly be followed up by another one, either from CRK or someone else, and we will see very different results.
 
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I honestly don't believe that any tampering was done.

The reason why testing is done independently is to remove doubt and bias..but I still don't think there was any tampering.
 
When I take a look at my sebenza, the locking action, and think of what happened in that vid, it just doesn't make any sense. Something is off..
I can only think off 2, maybe three scenarios.

1. Both sebenzas were tampered with. Oil on lock surface etc.

2. Both sebenzas was faulty from factory. Not likely, but still.

3. Somehow the setup of the test makes the locking action just not fuctioning like it should. Pressures when mouting the knives up to the test fixtures wich make the lockbar unstable?

I also believe this test will shortly be followed up by another one, either from CRK or someone else, and we will see very different results.

Why not just take it for what it was, but trust your own experiences? If failures were taking place on a regular basis, it would be all over the Forums. Especially considering the number of people who enjoy firing shots at CRK.
 
I'll admit I was a bit surprised to see the NIB knife slip that easily. Least that what it looked like as already mentioned. I thought it'd eventually slip off, but under a bit more weight. I don't put much credence in the spine whack.

I'm curious then if there's a way to figure about how much upward pressure or twisting action you'd have to do in your hand, like if your blade is stuck in something and you're trying to free it. I guess I'm not sure how much "weight" you can apply with just hand pressure.
Not much weight with slow pushing but add some jerking around, twisting and leverages and I bet you could reach 250 pounds of force on a tiny pivot very easily.

I would like a test which applies forces from the edge, front and the sides and not only the spine. Only then one can know what knife is truely the tuffest.

I wouldn't buy a knife only for being the
spine whack king.
Who knows, maybe it splits it's scales apart from only slight side prying? What I'd buy for sure would be a knife which is toughest in all direction, with an emphasis in the direction which it would encounter during normal use. Am I the only one interested in such a test?
 
Not much weight with slow pushing but add some jerking around, twisting and leverages and I bet you could reach 250 pounds of force on a tiny pivot very easily.

I would like a test which applies forces from the edge, front and the sides and not only the spine. Only then one can know what knife is truely the tuffest.

I wouldn't buy a knife only for being the
spine whack king.
Who knows, maybe it splits it's scales apart from only slight side prying? What I'd buy for sure would be a knife which is toughest in all direction, with an emphasis in the direction which it would encounter during normal use. Am I the only one interested in such a test?

No you are not the only one Jens, a comprehensive test including force applied in all directions, including static and dynamic loads, would be the true test of a design, done by a completely independent third party of course. I know I would cringe at the thought of all those perfectly good knives being tested to destruction, but it would answer a lot of questions no doubt.
 
When I take a look at my sebenza, the locking action, and think of what happened in that vid, it just doesn't make any sense. Something is off..
I can only think off 2, maybe three scenarios.

1. Both sebenzas were tampered with. Oil on lock surface etc.

2. Both sebenzas was faulty from factory. Not likely, but still.

3. Somehow the setup of the test makes the locking action just not functioning like it should. Pressures when mouting the knives up to the test fixtures wich make the lockbar unstable?

I also believe this test will shortly be followed up by another one, either from CRK or someone else, and we will see very different results.

I doubt it was tampered with. It makes sense if you think about two angled pieces of metal smoothed out with pressure pushing on them, they're bound to slip. If the lock bar were tightened down to mimic a tightly gripped index finger so it was unable to slip outward I'm guessing it would be strong enough to hold quite a bit of weight...though maybe still not as much as the CS. The triad lock is very impressive.
 
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