Cold Steel tests the Sebenza against their Cold Steel Code 4

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Sosa said:
There have been instances of people needing to forcefully pierce something in an emergency.
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Beyond the intended purpose of the Sebenza...Unless it's a steak...a tactical steak..A sebenza can do those
 
johnnytoxin said:
My suspicion is Lynn Thompson purchased the sebenzas, maliciously compromised the integrity of the locks, then sent them to Demko for testing without disclosing what he had done. I could very well be wrong, but something here is not right....good job cold steel, way to turn potential customers OFF to your product.
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We'll never know, but quite possible. Big dollars at stake in people's disposable income. Anyways......for me this is a backfire for sure. You know the Glessers, and Reeves, and other respectable makers don't engage in this sort of shenanigan. They don't have to because their products sell themselves I suppose. Cold Steel is desperate I guess to convince us all to carry their goof-ball designs.
 
I have some Cold Steels and have owned many that I've sold. That said despite the fact they're strong, none have ever seemed at all refined. I just never warmed up to one as a edc. They always are stiff and awkward to me. I'd go with a fixed blade if I'm doing something that requires massive amounts of strength.
 
The Sebenza failed Cold Steels test, is anyone really surprised? So have countless others yet we hear of very few lock failures on this forum. As I stated before, in real world use a persons hand holds in the lockbar. I've never had a Chris Reeve knife close on my fingers.

I really like my new Recon 1 and Code 4. Too bad Cold Steel doesn't focus on there great new blade steels and cutting geometries more. The triad lock testing has gotten old.
 
Well one thing I've learned here: You can question and disparage CRKs time-tested designs with one-sided, anyone's-guess tests, but if you ask on the cold steel sub-forum about the working conditions in their overseas factories, your thread gets locked by mods in ten minutes.

Taking the piss outta CRKs trademark design is Ok, just don't ask about the 10 year old kid getting black lung making Coldsteel "Chinese War Swords". Sheesh.
 
kidcongo said:
Well one thing I've learned here: You can question and disparage CRKs time-tested designs with one-sided, anyone's-guess tests, but if you ask on the cold steel sub-forum about the working conditions in their overseas factories, your thread gets locked by mods in ten minutes.

Taking the piss outta CRKs trademark design is Ok, just don't ask about the 10 year old kid getting black lung making Coldsteel "Chinese War Swords". Sheesh.
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Ironically, you're probably writing this on a electronic device made in China... The kid you're referring too probably got "black lung" so you could pretend to be a social justice crusader :p
 
retzius said:
Ironically, you're probably writing this on a electronic device made in China... The kid you're referring too probably got "black lung" so you could pretend to be a social justice crusader :p
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No, I am writing this on a 50's era Smith Corona typewriter made in the USA. And BTW, I am a social justice crusader, and have a badge to show for it, just my typewriter doesn't have a camera. :p
 
kidcongo said:
Well one thing I've learned here: You can question and disparage CRKs time-tested designs with one-sided, anyone's-guess tests, but if you ask on the cold steel sub-forum about the working conditions in their overseas factories, your thread gets locked by mods in ten minutes.

Taking the piss outta CRKs trademark design is Ok, just don't ask about the 10 year old kid getting black lung making Coldsteel "Chinese War Swords". Sheesh.
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Remember when people said you're taking this too serious? Well, you're taking this way too serious.
 
I watch these test and they know it is designed primarily to demonstrate the integrity of the tri-ad lock and it does that well. To their credit they state that fact or at least they have. The test makes me cringe but I cant help to watch. My biggest problem is that all the test are based on using your knife in the wrong direction. Never are the knives tested in the cutting direction.
 
Just for discussion, I'm not claiming that this is a main reason.
Look at these 2 pictures with positions of knives after hit. I guess Code 4 (pic 1) wasn't fixed in proper way and it's allows to compensate the power of hit. Otherwise, Sebenza (pic 2) was fixed rigidly and kinetic energy was taken harder.

https://flic.kr/p/BzPYYj

https://flic.kr/p/AMZUdV
 
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If the lock bar didn't break then it jarred loose. Frame locks are known to do that when not gripped. I'm not the least bit worried about any of my frame locks giving in real use. The Russian test shows what a Zaan can do, without failing. Or even damage to the knife itself. Cold Steel and their bragging never stops, they've been at it since they started up and while their wonder lock is super strong, the rest of their knife IMO leaves much to be desired. Who cares, a frame lock works just fine for anything a person needs in day to day use. I never hear of any of them causing problems through failure. Lynn is going to continue to thump his chest and crow about his knives, nothing new since the 1980's. I remember reading long ago about what a turn off he was to the rest of the knife industry. His marketing of potentially dangerous weapons was never seen, by the rest as a positive thing. In fact it was viewed as very negative.
 
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Perhaps when a framelock is tested they should use a small rubberband or zip tie to apply pressure to the lock bar in a similar fashion that someone's hand would while actually using the knife.
 
They could use a rubber castrater band, I bet that they'd hold with that.
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