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And sometimes not even then.
But I'd rather spend my non-existent cash on knives than video equipment.
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Cold steel tri ad lock vs Spyderco compression lock (stonger lock)
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And sometimes not even then.
But I'd rather spend my non-existent cash on knives than video equipment.
And sometimes not even then.
But I'd rather spend my non-existent cash on knives than video equipment.
Couldn't agree more.
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Well, I've batonned my Skirmish (frame-lock)a bit, but of course there's no video.
But then again, there's batonning and then there's BATONNING. I wouldn't baton a folder, any folder, the way I would a fixed blade.
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All that proves is that the triad lock is indeed very very strong and theres plenty of evidence on that. I find it ridiculous that you can say A is better than B without testing both and comparing the results. For the record sal has said the compression lock is on par with the triad lock from their testing so you are welcome to prove that to be false or otherwise dont give statements based on assumptions.
Well, I've batonned my Skirmish (frame-lock)a bit, but of course there's no video.
But then again, there's batonning and then there's BATONNING. I wouldn't baton a folder, any folder, the way I would a fixed blade.
Than I am impressed and I'll take your word , a video is not needed.
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Thanks.
Of course, the Skirmish is rather a beast of a knife, except for the annoyingly flimsy pocket clip (what the heck were they thinking of when they put that clip on there?)
It may be a very strong lock too and I never said it wasn't but I am speaking about the actual knives and not just potential lock strength. Can a beefed up compression or axis lock in a larger folder be comparable the spartan or espada? maybe but I have done things with the first spartan folder I had that might have broken or damaged some lesser fixed blades.. I am not making assumptions but just educated guesses. Just wondering, have you ever handled one of the big tri- ad folders?
Those knives are kinda cute. But seriously let me just put it this way if I can be proven with videos or just honest typed accounts that benchmade or spyderco's knives are comparable in strength to the coldsteel folders I will buy 1 and show the proof of my purchase.
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For what its worth for those that have never seen the inside of a compression lock: Para 1:
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Tri-Ad lock
Unless one would shear out a piece of metal (on the blade or a pin) or accidentally close the lock I cant see anything in normal use or hard cutting chores causing the lock to fail. One thing I would watch out for in any backlock, including the Tri-Ad is excessive blade play (little is ok) but blade play in the Compression lock I dought would affect safety of the lock (one of the few where bladeplay does not necessarily indicate a hazardous lock).
Only reason I have not bought a Tri-Ad lock is simple....I dont like any of the designs, just not my taste.
Unless someone can build a machine with accurate data and minimal variables with repeatable results everything for me is mere speculation on strength. I cant help but wonder if we have forgotten the importance of the right tool for the job. Splitting wood...axe/hatchet/ big damn heavy chopper and gone into a civilasation where we want one tool to do everything under the sun, hold an edge for ever...a slipjoint was perfect for my grandfather all his life and a good axe....but tastes and opinions differ on this matter as well (sorry bit off topic).
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Tri-Ad lock
Unless one would shear out a piece of metal (on the blade or a pin) or accidentally close the lock I cant see anything in normal use or hard cutting chores causing the lock to fail. One thing I would watch out for in any backlock, including the Tri-Ad is excessive blade play (little is ok) but blade play in the Compression lock I dought would affect safety of the lock (one of the few where bladeplay does not necessarily indicate a hazardous lock).
Only reason I have not bought a Tri-Ad lock is simple....I dont like any of the designs, just not my taste.
Unless someone can build a machine with accurate data and minimal variables with repeatable results everything for me is mere speculation on strength. I cant help but wonder if we have forgotten the importance of the right tool for the job. Splitting wood...axe/hatchet/ big damn heavy chopper and gone into a civilasation where we want one tool to do everything under the sun, hold an edge for ever...a slipjoint was perfect for my grandfather all his life and a good axe....but tastes and opinions differ on this matter as well (sorry bit off topic).
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Biggest coldsteel I own is a lawman. I havent tested the triad or compression lock so I wouldnt even consider saying which is stronger. I have preferences and opinions on both locks from owning both types of locks but that doesnt mean I know whats stronger. Only one way to know for sure... Maybe someone will do it
.For what its worth for those that have never seen the inside of a compression lock: Para 1:
(Not my picture)
Tri-Ad lock
Unless one would shear out a piece of metal (on the blade or a pin) or accidentally close the lock I cant see anything in normal use or hard cutting chores causing the lock to fail. One thing I would watch out for in any backlock, including the Tri-Ad is excessive blade play (little is ok) but blade play in the Compression lock I dought would affect safety of the lock (one of the few where bladeplay does not necessarily indicate a hazardous lock)
cool thanks for that post, i have a superleaf but i havnt taken it apart,
Biggest coldsteel I own is a lawman. I havent tested the triad or compression lock so I wouldnt even consider saying which is stronger. I have preferences and opinions on both locks from owning both types of locks but that doesnt mean I know whats stronger. Only one way to know for sure... Maybe someone will do it
Ok, that's cool and I see what you are saying but perhaps if you were to handle one of the bigger ones you could really feel the amount of strength that I am talking about.
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And sometimes not even then.
But I'd rather spend my non-existent cash on knives than video equipment.
Oh I believe you stabman because you have a long history of rational, even-minded posts.
And you don't post things like you have drank the kool-aid.
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Oh I believe you stabman because you have a long history of rational, even-minded posts.
And you don't post things like you have drank the kool-aid.
Stabman is "stand-up" all the way. The axis lock is very tough, it's only critics b*tch about broken springs not the lock failing.
On another note, you can baton the crap out of any folder as long as you RELEASE the lock after the first whack to start the blade! :thumbup:
Here we go again with my pcis of my Ontario Rat-1 $25 linerlock which I've started many fires with. Cut shavings, baton some small stuff (if you even have to) then throw a spark into a suitable medium (I carry striker stick, cotton balls and chapstick in my fire-bags) and light it up!
Oh I believe you stabman because you have a long history of rational, even-minded posts.
And you don't post things like you have drank the kool-aid.
Just because you don't believe something doesn't mean it didn't happen. Sometimes we don't want to accept things and demand "proof" to silence the things we don't want to hear Example: "Prove that god doesn't exist !"
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It's worth just picking up a Cold Steel Spartan just to experience the lock and durability of the knife. For me there is nothing like it that I have used. I can say that I can hang from the knife , and being 240 pounds I was impressed. I've also stood on it, thrown it , jimmied it into a door and busted the lock out. The lock is fine and no blade play in any direction. Best 50 bucks I've spent on a knife.
Unless you have a video that means nothing apparently.