Cold Steel vs. CRKT Lawsuit

I think LAWKS is a great idea, for added security. For me, it is a "virtual fixed blade". I don't push my knives to the limit.
 
DocT said:
You guys are waaaayyyy over reacting to this.

Cold Steel is famous for their marketing ploys, but also, CRKT has been selling, without any designs to remedy the problem, knives that are unsafe. A good slipjoint would perform as well as one of their "virtual fixed blade" knives. CS called them on it. CRKT, did not recall the knives, unlike Gerber that did.
Let us all take a deep breath, and relax a bit.
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define. unsafe. It has a point. It has a cutting edge. It must be opened and thus, closed. It's a dangerous tool. If this is unacceptable to people then they should not use them.

The lock testing that CS shows in its video selection is marketing hype. Why is it hype? IMO, the torture they exert on their locks has nothing to do with the NORMAL use of a knife. If 400 lb Lynn Thompson is hanging off a blade jammed 8 feet off the ground, it's hyping the strength of the lock. It's like he expects people to buy two of his knives and then climb a glacier, using them like you do an ice axe. Hanging off an elevated blade serves no normal or even useful purpose. Does it prove that it's strong? Absolutely...but so what?

If people are abusing the s**t out of their knives or acting in a manner in which their danger level is elevated....then they pretty much deserve to get cut or poked. If they are screwing around, who is really to blame? I'm reminded of the Pocket Bushman.............and how many people were injured because of it...the simple design of disengaging it....not by abusing it. Cold Steel's fault? They'd say "no" because they said "it'll bite you if..."

......but then again, designing a dangerous item requires some level of plausible deniability right? Anyone sue them for designing something dangerous? How about faulty?


[video=youtube;3SHvzmUcIKc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SHvzmUcIKc[/video]



Then there's all these complaints of CS "crappy grinds" that are littering this forum alone.

I see a measure of "do as I say, not as I do" here on the part of CS. Perhaps they should fix their own house before wrecking someone else'.
 
At least he didn't make up some story about being an Army Ranger in Somalia.





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(Yes, I went there)
 
the way I see it, this could be divided into two possibilities; either Cold Steel has a sincere motivation to pursue this suit, or this is a marketing stunt.
Imagine this case proceeding, where opportunities for mass exposure are available. For both companies.
 
Lorien said:
the way I see it, this could be divided into two possibilities; either Cold Steel has a sincere motivation to pursue this suit, or this is a marketing stunt.
Imagine this case proceeding, where opportunities for mass exposure are available. For both companies.
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Well CS spends more on marketing than the last President did when running the first time. If they can't sell their knives by making a better product or saturating the add sections of almost every major catalog they can get into....then they suck and need to do more than put the 'other guy' out of business with bad press.
 
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nick21 said:
Yeah we can't all be paragons of virtue like Lynn Thompson.
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Any lock on a folding knife will fail at some point relative to its breaking point.
But in some products, it is the pivot, liners or pins holding the knife togather
which gives way before the lock does.
It cannot be fairly judged unless a knife has been technically measured
And built To withstand stresses equally within its structure.
 
This seems like a bad marketing stunt, and it will likely cost them a large number of sales in the future.
 
How cute. Couldn't care less about this though, as long as they keep making knives I like.
 
I wonder if we shouldn't be less surprised that someone is being called out for a spurious advertising claim.
Yes there's a lot of relative factors, but if it can be shown in court that something is false advertising, why not?

I have no doubt Cold Steel just wants it in court that their knives are stronger, but it's not like it hurts anyone, the only consequences are that Cold Steel gets to spend a bunch of money bragging in court and CRKT has to stop exaggerating in their advertising material.
CRKT could just change their advertising and be done with it, it's going to be interesting watching their reaction.
 
How cute..... Couldn't care less about this though, as they have never made a knife I like.
 
Joshua J. said:
I wonder if we shouldn't be less surprised that someone is being called out for a spurious advertising claim.
Yes there's a lot of relative factors, but if it can be shown in court that something is false advertising, why not?

I have no doubt Cold Steel just wants it in court that their knives are stronger, but it's not like it hurts anyone, the only consequences are that Cold Steel gets to spend a bunch of money bragging in court and CRKT has to stop exaggerating in their advertising material.
CRKT could just change their advertising and be done with it, it's going to be interesting watching their reaction.
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I agree except that the money wasted on lawyers could go to make knives better or cheaper or pay their workers higher salaries or many other more useful purposes.
The lawsuit has no basis since the advertisement is vague and can't be disproven as shown in the discussion above.
Now that the lawsuit will be not successful but is still being done, indicates the true nature and intention of CS. Not a nice one in my opinion.
 
Yep, just like they have been breaking Spydercos since the Tatanka came out... Competition is on their turf, all respect and chivalry is out of the window and smear campaigns begin. This is what they are, they have enough people that don't mind and swallow this all up.

Controversy... Any publicity is good publicity.
 
Well, at least they bring the drama. :)

"Cold Steel, the most drama filled knives in the world." :D
 
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