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[TMHunt]

Beautiful setup. That sheath is outstanding. :thumbup:

Agree.

 

[worldwood]

Sober? Shame.

Just not the same.

I'm not sure I can even watch it.

Excellent! Now get down there and try it again.... And do it correctly this time!

HAHAHAHA you guys are a tough crowd.

I got a question, and this is gonna really sound smartassish, but its not my intent. There has been a long controversy about at what point a maker is actually the maker. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you paid to have the design converted to a program, then you pay to have them cut out, you also pay to have someone heat treat them, and pay to have someone make the sheaths. What would be the difference to farm out the bevels? If you found a decent enough maker he or she could grind the bevel to your specs. Especially if your going to do that big of a bevel by hand on 1/4 piece of steel, if its going to be a bevel large enough to be symmetrical with the smaller hawk, I think you'll rethink your logic on that one.

Well here is my opinion on it anyways... Geometry is what cuts..... So if i designed it, i do the bevels, and i do the final edge... Then i am (solely) responsible for how it cuts. I gave it the geometry it has.

Lots and lots of knife makers have their sheaths and HT farmed out, and more and more are using waterjet services.. SO im doing nothing out the usual there IMO. But the bevels and edge seem like the biggest deal for cutting performance... So id say once you farm out the bevels or edge, then someone else shares responsibility for its performance....

Not that thats a bad thing at all either, there are some amazing collabs out there. And if i could get someone with more experience and better tools than me to do these full sized ones up at a fair price i would jump on it.....It would save SO much time.... But only AFTER i did one myself and proved i could do it and it perform well enough.

 

[TMHunt]

HAHAHAHA you guys are a tough crowd.





Well here is my opinion on it anyways... Geometry is what cuts..... So if i designed it, i do the bevels, and i do the final edge... Then i am (solely) responsible for how it cuts. I gave it the geometry it has.

Lots and lots of knife makers have their sheaths and HT farmed out, and more and more are using waterjet services.. SO im doing nothing out the usual there IMO. But the bevels and edge seem like the biggest deal for cutting performance... So id say once you farm out the bevels or edge, then someone else shares responsibility for its performance....

Not that thats a bad thing at all either, there are some amazing collabs out there. And if i could get someone with more experience and better tools than me to do these full sized ones up at a fair price i would jump on it.....It would save SO much time.... But only AFTER i did one myself and proved i could do it and it perform well enough.

Interesting.....and I agree with you kinda sorta to a point. Proper heat threat is VERY important to the performance of the blade, possibly more Important than final edge and geometry. Its a simple fact that if the heat treat isnt right, the other two things dont mean shit...Isnt that sharing performance responsibility?

 

[daizee]

Well here is my opinion on it anyways... Geometry is what cuts..... So if i designed it, i do the bevels, and i do the final edge... Then i am (solely) responsible for how it cuts. I gave it the geometry it has.

Lots and lots of knife makers have their sheaths and HT farmed out, and more and more are using waterjet services.. SO im doing nothing out the usual there IMO. But the bevels and edge seem like the biggest deal for cutting performance... So id say once you farm out the bevels or edge, then someone else shares responsibility for its performance....

Not that thats a bad thing at all either, there are some amazing collabs out there. And if i could get someone with more experience and better tools than me to do these full sized ones up at a fair price i would jump on it.....It would save SO much time.... But only AFTER i did one myself and proved i could do it and it perform well enough.

Todd brings up a question commonly discussed over in shop talk and related areas.

WW's hatchets are solidly mid-tech, and there's nothing wrong with that. Without the man at the helm, making the design decisions, QC, and the capital investment, the pieces don't get made. Larger corporations, with the exception of zaibatsu like Hitatchi, all sub out lots of their work and brand their products with their logo. Even IBM does these days.

As long as the people selling the product are up front about their process, I have no issues. They may sell in different markets, or to different buyers, but the market is vibrant and roomy, so yay! I'd rather buy a WW hawk than a CRKT, assuming they both meet my performance requirements.

I hope to be doing mid-tech birudashi soon - you guys have already seen some examples. In my case it will be just the first two major steps, but whatev's - y'all will know what you're buying, and that they will be more consistent and more *available* due to the new process!

 

[TMHunt]

Todd brings up a question commonly discussed over in shop talk and related areas.

WW's hatchets are solidly mid-tech, and there's nothing wrong with that. Without the man at the helm, making the design decisions, QC, and the capital investment, the pieces don't get made. Larger corporations, with the exception of zaibatsu like Hitatchi, all sub out lots of their work and brand their products with their logo. Even IBM does these days.

As long as the people selling the product are up front about their process, I have no issues. They may sell in different markets, or to different buyers, but the market is vibrant and roomy, so yay! I'd rather buy a WW hawk than a CRKT, assuming they both meet my performance requirements.

I hope to be doing mid-tech birudashi soon - you guys have already seen some examples. In my case it will be just the first two major steps, but whatev's - y'all will know what you're buying, and that they will be more consistent and more *available* due to the new process!

Your correct to a T diazee, but its always interesting to me to hear peoples opinion on where the line is. That seems to always change depending on who you talk to.

I didnt mean that theres anything wrong with what WW is doing. In fact, im pretty impressed by it. But im always interested in the topic of what people consider handmade.

Thats why I asked his opinion.

 

[worldwood]

Interesting.....and I agree with you kinda sorta to a point. Proper heat threat is VERY important to the performance of the blade, possibly more Important than final edge and geometry. Its a simple fact that if the heat treat isnt right, the other two things dont mean shit...Isnt that sharing performance responsibility?

Definitely!!!

HT is extremely important. One of the most important things in determining the knifes performance and durability... It definitely plays a huge role in it's performance for sure. But what im talking about really is cutting ability, and granted with a improper or no heat treat a blade wont cut very much for very long, but even a blade that hasnt been to HT can cut with a decent edge and geometry, for that matter a piece of plastic, g10, or glass can as well without any heat treat at all. So while its one of the most important things when it comes to making a good cutting tool, i feel HT plays more a role in durability than in immediate cutting performance.

Man im such a noob at all this compared to you guys, so please understand im only giving my opinions and would never say its more correct than anyone else's.. It's just how i personally think on the matter. But i love and appreciate the great thought provoking convo from you guys with more knowledge on the matter.

 

[Jonny1280]

Sunday I was able to sit down with my 5 year old and let her use her BK14 for the first time.
I gave here a plastic SAK to practice with and use responsibly over the last 6 months.
She did very well and listened to all my instructions.
She was excited if you can't already tell....lol
She told Mom that she got to go to "knife school" with Dad.

 

[Bladite]

Update time; apparently the cardiologist wasn't as worried as the ER doc and the heart monitor company. She thinks it's Vasovagal syncope. Which basically is unpredictable and may or may not ever concern me again. I'll undergo a stress test in a couple hours and then should be let out of the hospital soon after. Bad news is, I'll probably be back to work tonight or tomorrow.

micturition syncope

often due to enlarged prostate according to doctor wiki

 

[Bladite]

This is the way life goes.....get used to it. At least it ain't a sewerage problem. Of all the crap you have to deal with as the man of the house, none of it is as terrible as dealing with ACTUAL crap.
Once you get that hot tub working again (as I know you will), don't let your wife use it. Trust me, it'll be good for your marriage to lord it over her for a while .

put a locking cover on it, don't let her know the combo (or where the key is), leave a note on it saying that it's in sterilization cycle

use it when you want. then lock it up. "sorry, i'm deep cleaning it again, seems like the kids,dog,cat, someone got into it - still pulling baby mess from it"

yeah

 

[TBL]

Not the prettiest cut, but i got her done.... Sober even

[video=youtube;-X9PN-jqtQI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X9PN-jqtQI&feature=youtu.be[/video]

Nicely done sir!

now since everybody else is bust'n yo ballz; lets see two bottles, start stacking that line see how many you can get through!

Sunday I was able to sit down with my 5 year old and let her use her BK14 for the first time.
I gave here a plastic SAK to practice with and use responsibly over the last 6 months.
She did very well and listened to all my instructions.
She was excited if you can't already tell....lol
She told Mom that she got to go to "knife school" with Dad.

:thumbup: love doing the same thing with my son. Awesome bonding time spent over life long skills!

put a locking cover on it, don't let her know the combo (or where the key is), leave a note on it saying that it's in sterilization cycle

use it when you want. then lock it up. "sorry, i'm deep cleaning it again, seems like the kids,dog,cat, someone got into it - still pulling baby mess from it"

yeah

bio-film; with the tub out of commission for a few days the ozone filter is down. nasty looking stuff peels off of places that would normally have constant pressure holding it to the surface. There is a really nasty chemical that you can use to vaporize that stuff. Coincidentally you then have to immediately drain the tub and hose it out I hear it brings back that 'New Tub Smell'

Had the owner of the company I got my hot tub from over today to check it all out. He's a childhood friend of my wife and he wanted to see what it needed so he could give it to the tech. We figured out what two of the issues could be. :thumbup: Now I just need a tech to come and fix it!

 

[worldwood]

Nicely done sir!

now since everybody else is bust'n yo ballz; lets see two bottles, start stacking that line see how many you can get through!

Thanks brother, now that i have approval i can finally rest.

-snark

The most bottles i have ever made it through was 8 while practicing. I tried 10 twice and missed a couple both times. But I made it through all 6 at the BladeSports competition..... None of them were frozen though Of course LOL... Too bad it gets HOT in Atlanta around the time of BLADE show.... Good luck keeping them bottles frozen on the course LOL

 

[Bladite]

Had the owner of the company I got my hot tub from over today to check it all out. He's a childhood friend of my wife and he wanted to see what it needed so he could give it to the tech. We figured out what two of the issues could be. :thumbup: Now I just need a tech to come and fix it!

is one of them the wife? going to fix her? moo hah hah.

 

[spikebot587]

We've been thinking of getting a garand from the CMP, and I think I've decided on a service grade, but I read recently on another forum that's its recommended you shoot mil-surp ammo instead of commercial. Any of you guys have any input/inexperience with this?

 

[L4NE4]

Great looking sheath & Denny's scales look pretty slick as well! I might have to go out and find a stick to whittle on now....

Beautiful setup. That sheath is outstanding. :thumbup:

Excellent! Now get down there and try it again.... And do it correctly this time!

Agree.

Thanks guys. And yes Denny makes some nice handles! I am going to get a ESEE 3 from him one day.

 

[worldwood]

"It's not important how many people I've killed. What's important is how I get along with the people who are still alive."



Movie cracks me up.

 

[bigghoss]

We've been thinking of getting a garand from the CMP, and I think I've decided on a service grade, but I read recently on another forum that's its recommended you shoot mil-surp ammo instead of commercial. Any of you guys have any input/inexperience with this?

I've read that recent production stuff runs at higher pressures than 40's stuff and running whatever you can find off the shelf at the sporting goods store can do serious damage to the rifle. I think I read somewhere about a gas piston that would allow you to run new commercial stuff but I'm not sure on that. I think there is also new production ammo just for Garands. I would love to get a Garand but I don't have one ATM. Fulton armory makes a sick looking "tanker" model that I would love to have but it's over $2500 IIRC. I could technically afford it but all things considered it would be silly of me to do it right now.

I remember some years ago I was checking the Big 5 add on a Sunday afternoon (when they rotate what's on sale) and they had Garands for $500. (in rough shape, but still...) I literally ran out to my truck and drove down to the big 5 but by then they had been sold out of them for 2 or 3 hours.

 

[spikebot587]

I've read that recent production stuff runs at higher pressures than 40's stuff and running whatever you can find off the shelf at the sporting goods store can do serious damage to the rifle. I think I read somewhere about a gas piston that would allow you to run new commercial stuff but I'm not sure on that. I think there is also new production ammo just for Garands. I would love to get a Garand but I don't have one ATM. Fulton armory makes a sick looking "tanker" model that I would love to have but it's over $2500 IIRC. I could technically afford it but all things considered it would be silly of me to do it right now.

Thanks for the info. Ill look into the new ammo
When I was researching this I found an article about the origins about thanker model, it was really interesting, and it is a sweet little gun. Supposedly sprinfield, designed something similar in late '44 to combine the power of the Garand with the maneuverability of the M1 carbine, but thy scraped it do to velocity issues

I remember some years ago I was checking the Big 5 add on a Sunday afternoon (when they rotate what's on sale) and they had Garands for $500. (in rough shape, but still...) I literally ran out to my truck and drove down to the big 5 but by then they had been sold out of them for 2 or 3 hours.

That's a great price, sucks you missed it. My dad is finally joint the VFW and/or American legion so we are finally able to order one after 3 long years of wanting one. When we first found out about CMP I told him I'd rather have a Garand than a car when I turned 16, I'm kinda glad he didn't listen to me then but indonstill really want one

 

[TBL]

is one of them the wife? going to fix her? moo hah hah.

I'm not qualified to preform surgeries

But we did have some epic relationship mending relations last night so I guess you can say I 'Fixed' her good

 

[Bladite]

I'm not qualified to preform surgeries

But we did have some epic relationship mending relations last night so I guess you can say I 'Fixed' her good

expect more biofilm removal in the hottub in your future?

 

[Murphnuge]

Seems like warbonnet, Hennessey, and eno get the best reviews. That Hennessey survivor in woodland cam looks pretty nice. Warbonnet looks pretty good as well. May have to sell some knives and a pack and just go for it.

I've got the Survivor. After seeing AIG's Warbonnet, I wish mine had the sleeping pad Derek mentioned. Other than that I'm pretty happy with mine.

Murph - SWMBO wants to know how many METs you went on the stress test.

and the BK6 isn't gone yet, but I had 3 fairly serious bites and a nibble, so it's probably best if I consider it sold.

METs?