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Tommy-Chi
suggested a 0-100 scale could help clarify the ranking. I have also since changed a bunch of numbers after reviewing some steels per user suggestions and removed the 11's.
Do you think that adding in scores for price/availability and maybe sharpen-ability would help clarify that 1095 for example is not a bad steel just because M390 scores much higher?
The more data, the better. Include the following and
Ankerson's test results too.
"Cedric & Ada Gear and Outdoors" on YouTube is from Australia (
https://www.patreon.com/posts/worksharp-steel-16430576)
(
https://www.youtube.com/user/CedricAda)
Standard worksharp edge test (20 degrees micro convex for most tests. 17 degree edges is typical for UNLEASHED tests) unless otherwise noted. The test counts the number of cuts to very abrasive 1 inch thick sisal rope. UNLEASHED TO THE MAXX, Tormek 12 degree edge is not for everyone. The steel edge will roll.
http://knifenews.com/just-how-bad-is-budget-blade-steel/
Pete chooses edge retention as the key criteria to measure folding knife steel. “I want the fine slicing to last as long as possible,” he says. His cut tests, performed using a standardized edge bevel, cutting medium, and method, measure this characteristic, end when the knife can no longer cut printer paper. The testing medium is abrasive sisal rope, and Pete readily admits that this is a harder cut than most. But he finds that steels which fail to make 60-70 cuts in his testing translate to poor EDC options. “Knives that land below the 60 mark generally frustrate me when I carry them extensively as a daily user,” he says.
This metric rules out the standard budget steels on the market today: heat treat plays an important role in the performance of any steel, but in testing, Pete has found that AUS-8, 8Cr13MoV, and 440C all fail to meet the 60 cut mark. To put that in perspective, a modern super steel like CTS-XHP gets all the way to 242 cuts on Pete’s test. “A lot of marketing materials still claim that AUS-8 and 8Cr13Mov are high carbon steels with superior edge retention. This just isn’t true, and hasn’t been for a long time,” Pete says. Knives with these steels are far from unusable, but Pete believes the time has come for makers to offer better options – even at lower price points. “I just want a steel in my lower cost knives which holds a little longer than what’s widely used.”
THE FOLLOWING NEED TO BE PLACED IN THE CHART BELOW:
Vanax Superclean(1.55% Nitrogen/3.50% Vanadium Steel)(17deg 600gr Coarse/Toothy Finish Edge), 550 - Shannon Labs Knife 60HRC
Vanax Superclean(1.55% Nitrogen/3.50% Vanadium Steel)(20deg Worksharp Edge), 300 - Shannon Labs Knife 60HRC
Vanax Superclean(1.55% Nitrogen/3.50% Vanadium Steel)(17deg KME Mirror Polished Edge), 680 - Shannon Labs Knife 60HRC
Z Finit (LC200N)(0.50% Nitrogen Steel)(20deg Worksharp Edge), 230 - Shannon Labs Knife 60HRC
Z Finit (LC200N)(0.50% Nitrogen Steel)(17deg 600gr Coarse/Toothy Finish Edge), 390 - Shannon Labs Knife 60HRC
Z Finit (LC200N)(0.50% Nitrogen Steel)(17deg KME Mirror Polish Edge), 525 - Shannon Labs Knife 60HRC
KEY
Steel(Special), # of cuts knife #1 - Manufacturer #1; # of cuts knife #2 - Manufacturer #2
CPM REX 121(UNLEASHED TO THE MAXX - 13dg 3000 grit edge), 1300+ - Creely Knives
CPM REX 121(UNLEASHED - 17dg 600 grit Lansky edge), 925 to 950 - Creely Knives
M390(UNLEASHED TO THE MAXXX, 13deg/12deg per side), 550/810 - Steel Will
Maxamet(UNLEASHED - 17dg edge toothy), 810 - Spyderco Manix 2
M4(UNLEASHED - 15deg edge, 600 grit KME toothy/coarse edge), 700 - Spyderco Mantra
CTS-XHP(UNLEASHED TO THE MAXX - 12DEG/SIDE, 1000 grit finish), 600 - Cold Steel American Lawman
Maxamet, 563 - Spyderco Manix 2, 20 degree edge
LC200N(UNLEASHED - 16deg edge, 160,000 grit KME polished edge), 550 - Spyderco Slysz Spydiechef
CPM 10V(UNLEASHED - 17dg edge toothy), 550 - Spyderco Fahrid K2
S110V (UNLEASHED - 17dg edge) 500 - Spyderco Para 3
M4(UNLEASHED - 15deg edge, 160,000 grit KME polished edge), 500 - Spyderco Mantra
CPM M4(UNLEASHED - 17dg edge), 489 - Spyderco
K390(UNLEASHED - 17dg edge), 480 - Spyderco
ZDP 189 (UNLEASHED - 17deg edge), 480 - Spyderco Dragonfly 2
CPM 4V, 475 - Bark River Knives, Kephart 5
S90V(UNLEASHED - 17dg edge), 440 - Benchmade Altitude
M390(UNLEASHED - 17dg edge), 440 - Steel Will Cutjack
LC200N(UNLEASHED - 16deg edge, 600 grit KME toothy/coarse edge), 430 - Spyderco Slysz Spydiechef
M390(UNLEASHED - 17dg edge), 425 - REPLACEMENT Steel Will Modus
HAP40(UNLEASHED - 17dg edge), 415 - Spyderco Dragonfly 2
N695(UNLEASHED TO THE MAXX - 12DEG/SIDE), 410 - "Cudeman MT-5"
CPM 10V, 389 - Spyderco Fahrid K2
ZDP 189 (Factory Edge), 380 - Spyderco Dragonfly 2
Cru Wear(Polished Edge), 375 - Creely Knives
CTS-XHP (UNLEASHED - 17dg edge), 370 - Cold Steel American Lawman
CPM 20CV, 351 - Benchmade Griptillian 555-1
Cru Wear(UNLEASHED - 17dg toothy edge 600 grit), 350 - Creely Knives
VG10(UNLEASHED TO THE MAXX - 12DEG/SIDE), 340 - Kizer V3
ZDP189, 336 - Spyderco Endura
M390, 334 - Lionsteel TRE; 400 cuts at 20 degrees on mirror polished edge - WE Knives 620j
S30VUNLEASHED - 16deg edge, 160,000 grit KME polished/mirror edge), 330 - Benchmade 940
CTS 204P, 321 - Spyderco Southard
ELMAX (Unleashed), 320 - Microtec DOC (20 degree mirror polished edge)
HAP40, 300 - Spyderco Dragonfly 2
CPM S110V, 295 - Spyderco Paramilitary 2; 281 - Spyderco Manix 2
S35VN(UNLEASHED - 17dg), 295 - Cold Steel Recon 1
SGPS, 291- Fallkniven U2
BOS S30V(UNLEASHED - 17dg Tormec 1000 grit), 290 - Bucks Paul BOS Heat Treat, Vantage Pro Mini
3V(UNLEASHED - 17deg edge, 160,000 grit KME polished edge), 290 - Survive Knives
CTS 40CP, 285 - Strider SNG
CPM M4, 280 - Benchmade Contego; 224 - Spyderco Mantra
CPM S90V, 278 - Spyderco Native 5
S30V(UNLEASHED - 16deg edge, 600 grit KME toothy/coarse edge), 275 - Benchmade 940
S30V (UNLEASHED), 260 - 17DPS Polished Edge on Spyderco Sage
K390, 242 - Spyderco Police 4
CTS XHP, 242 - Cold Steel Broken Skull
3V(UNLEASHED - 17deg edge, 600 grit KME toothy/coarse edge), 240 - Survive Knives
ELMAX, 236 - Zero Tolerance 0562
LC200N, 226 - Spyderco Spydiechef
Vanadis 4, 225 - Zero Tolerance 0180 (???? 4V?)
S30V(UNLEASHED - 17dg Tormec 1000 grit), 220 - Benchmade 940
14c28n(UNLEASHED TO THE MAXX, Tormek 12 degree edge), 215 - Ruike P801SV
CPM 3V, 209 - Cold Steel Master Hunter; 198, Bark River Bravo 1 LT
CPM S35VN, 198 - Kizer Gemini; 194, ZT0220; 187 - Reeve Sebenza
3V, 195 (20 Degree edge) - GSO 4.7
A2, 191 - Bark River JX6 (BRK does A2 right)
RWL34(RHC 59), 186 - Foolhardy Knives
S30V, 185 - Leatherman Charge TTI
S35VN(Factory Edge), 180 - Cold Steel Recon 1
Laminated CoS, 176 - Fallkniven PC
CPM S30V, 175 - Benchmade 940; 190 - Spyderco Sage
1095(UNLEASHED TO THE MAXX, Tormek 12 degree edge), 150 - Farm and Field knife, 58 to 59HRC.
154CM, 150 - Leatherman Charge Plus
1.4116(4116)(UNLEASHED TO THE MAXX - 13DEG/SIDE), 140 - Ontario Wraith
Aogami Blue Steel(UNLEASHED 14 degree edge), 140 - Higo No Kami; 210 - Higo No Kami
8cr13mov (UNLEASHED TO THE MAXX - Tormek 12 degree edge), 135 - Kershaw, Atmos by Sincovitch. Edge rolled.
NIOLOX, 135 - Lionsteel T5
154CM, 124 - Leatherman Skeletool CX
D2, 120 - Ontario Rat 1 (Ontario does D2 right)
VG10, 115 - 17 degree polished edges, Spyderco Delica
CTS BD1, 112 - Cold Steel Voyager
CPM S35VN, 109 to 113 - ZT 0909 (TWO TESTS)
BDZ1(UNLEASHED), 111 - Gerber Strongarm
01, 109 - Tindall Knives Sawtooth Hunter
AEB L, 108 - DB Blades Custom Knife
Sleipner, 105 - Lionsteel SR11
14c28n, 105 - 17 degree polished edges, ? unknown knife
N695, 100 - "Cudeman MT-5"
80CRv2, 100 - Terava Jaakari puukko
Infi, 90 - Busse
X12MF, 90 - Kizlyar Fileen
14c28n, 88 - Mora Garbera
1095 Cro Van, 87 - Ka Bar BK7 (better than std 1095)
N690co 87 - Spyderco Pingo
12C27, 85 - Greystone Custom Knife
3V(Factory Edge), 85 - GSO 4.7
VG10c 83 - Kizer Dukes; 75 - Spyderco Delica; 74 - Fallkniven F1
Ceramic, 80 - Savannah, Kitchen Knife
L6c 80 - Svord Peasant
420HC (UNLEASHED), 80 - Gerber Strongarm
440C 77 - Lionsteel Mini
BDZ1, 75 - Gerber Strongarm
440C, 75 Kizlyar Hero; 70 - Kizlyar Ute
1095, 75 - ESEE 4; 69 - SCHRADE 42D
VG1, 73 - Cold Steel SRK
9cr18mov, 72 - Freewolf Knife
14c28n, 71 - Real Steel E571
Case Chrome Vanadium, 70 to 77
D2, 67/70 - Viper Keeper
4116, 67 - Cold Steel Bushman
BOS 420HC, 67 - Buck vantage select
C75, 66 - Opinel
Case Tru Sharp, 60 to 65
AUS8, 60 - Al Mar Facon; 58 - Ontario Rat 1; 52 - Cold Steel Kobun
5160, 59 - Ontario Bushcraft Field
8cr14mov, 56 - Tonife Luminescence
12c27mod, 55 - Opinel
AN58, 53 - Nieto Pegaso
440c, 53 - Ganzo Gsomething
440B, 50 - CutCo KA-BAR/Becker
420HC, 50 - Gerber Strongarm
M390, 50 to 100 cuts(5 complete tests), Steel Will Modus (BOGUS KNIFE STEEL)
420hc, 44 to 60 - Leatherman Surge; 48 - Gerber Strongarm
8cr13mov, 48 - CRKT NOMA; 39 - CRKT Swindle
420 J2, 40 - Buck 311
440A, 38 - Becker Remora
5cr15mov, 37 - Gerber Index
Victorinox, 36 - Explorer
7cr13Mov, 35 - Bear Grylls Knife
Cast Iron, 20 - Amazon.com Cast Iron Kitchen Knife
???, 9 - Z HUNTER
???, 4 to 6 - Shit internet knife
???, 3 - Butter Knife