Consecrating A Knife In The Pagan Tradition

For the purpose of a debate, I think that most topics (unless illegal) are open subjects for a discussion. However, I also believe that decorum and politeness are required. You must also turn the other cheek when you don't receve it in return, and you know what I mean.:rolleyes:

This does not mean that I have to get into the boat with you. In the concept of 'freedom of religion' this guy can dip his knife and 'Mister Happy' into any elixir that he likes and call it a bullion cube if that's his bent.

But I also have the freedom to speak, react and refute. I knew some witches and warlocks here in the Madison area, I even worked with Lady Cybil at a collection agency as a youth learning my trade.

This guy put himself out there, perhaps he is sincere, perhaps he took the last sip and swallowed the grub, you make the call. Here's my message to him:

Trileptol worked for me. Your mileage may vary.
 
Now wait guys, I thought I was being very polite. At least, that was my intent. Exactly how then should I engage a warlock in a debate?

Get along? I 'get along' quite nicely with guys like Sharp Phil and Komondor, and we disagree (to a point) on just about everything. The name of the column is 'Blade Discussion.' I believe that means we discuss blades. A rebuttal or a refuting of postulates is fair game.

After all, I welcome opposing opinions. Or at least I get them anyway.;)
 
tourist, i agree. your response seems mild enough. i think they were referring to a few others who continued the match after a handful of forumites asked them to stop.

abe m.
 
You guys can slag each other's religions all you want but did Nic Ramirez hafta drag hockey into this? Man, that's just mean.:D
 
Thinly disguised "religious" practices, with intended opposition, in order to counter with lists of gods/godess and more material.

Good work Utah.:rolleyes:

Knife related or not, your post has too many overtones of an instruction manual for your personal beliefs.
 
Utah's original post was interesting and the debate should have stayed there but when it opened up into a free-for-all on religious beliefs it went downhill and the original intention of the thread was lost. It got a bit hairy when non-believers were consigned to hell and it's a pity we couldn't have had a more reasoned discussion on the intent of the original post which revolved around knife practices ie how we consecrate our knives whether it be through some ritual or playing with them in front of the TV. As Knife Knuts we all revere our knives and some idolise their makers - isn't there something somewhere about 'false gods' in the book of books.
 
The posts in this thread did become a little heated, however, I found Uath's thread valid for those who would perform such practices. I'm not a Wiccan or a Druid, nor do I follow Uath's example of consecrating objects, but I respect Uath's right to state his opinion on consecrating a knife based on his beliefs. As you can see, he began getting ridiculed from the start. I wonder, how would the reaction have been if someone started a thread about Catholic priests blessing knives and other objects? Religion no matter how fascinating, will always be a sensitive subject among people. Even though I'm a heathen, I also have a few very close friends that are Xtians, and we've debated, even argued, but we don't let spiritual differances interfere with our friendship. Still, I do regret that this thread got out of hand and regret having offended anyone, but I think this thread's intent was to be informative.
 
It got a bit hairy when non-believers were consigned to hell

No, it got hairy when some inconsiderate heathern made the following stupid statement...

My God carries a hammer, yours was nailed to a cross, get the picture?

Which apparently led the consigner to believe that our Savior was hammered to the cross by the heatherns' god. Yes, if you are a Christian those are fighting words, and if you believe that statement you
heading to hell.
 
Could somebody spell his name right (Uath) instead of repeatedly referring to him as Utah? It's only 4 characters and is right under your noses, come on.
 
Lyonhaert,

Ha-ha, my 'haert' is with you. I was ridiculed lately over a 'pronoun' issue because a few knuts couldn't read what was in front of them before they shot their mouths off.

Learn to love them. What makes this place so much fun is the passion that people bring to a hobby that the public views as 'just collecting jackknives.'

And, in time you'll screw up, too.
 
Uath - I apologize - as an ex-telegraphist I should have paid more attention to my 'typos' - my biggest mistake in a telegram (they existed before emails and fax's was to type 'married' instead of 'buried' - did I get a bluey about that one. Didn't expect to get one here though!!!!
 
The Tourist,

Hey, I'm very acute with my spelling! :p

Most misspellings made by others, I don't care about (unless they're funny, and this one was). I'm just one of those folks that are a stickler when it comes to getting someone's name/handle right. It's surprising how many times my own handle has been misspelled, even so far as being spelled 'Lionheart' in a post directly after my own.

Speaking as a Christian myself, declaring that someone is heading to hell, or that they will got to hell, is not a judgement we are supposed to make. Also, the quip about 'my god carries a hammer, yours was nailed to a cross.' These are not fighting words for a Christian. We're supposed to turn the other cheek at comments like that.

Anyway, back to knife consecration, and drop the religious argument! None of you have much chance of convincing others of your views if they believe differently. Wild goose chases are not worth the effort.
 
The term is Heathen, not heathern.;)

For those who may be interested, the blade plays a very important role in many heathen/pagan/neo-pagan practices. A blade used for ritual purposes is usually consecrated in one way or another or may be used in the consecration of other objects itself.
The sword and dagger are the most commonly used. A hawkbill blade called a boline is sometimes used for harvesting herbs used in ritual practices.
These practices have likely been handed down from times in the past when "man" lived by the blade. The sword has long been held to have mystical qualities by many cultures.

Paul
 
declaring that someone is heading to hell, or that they will got to hell, is not a judgement we are supposed to make. Also, the quip about 'my god carries a hammer, yours was nailed to a cross.' These are not fighting words for a Christian. We're supposed to turn the other cheek at comments like that.

Lionhart, no judgement was made, just repeating passages out of the bible. Turning the other cheek? Just like Jesus did in the temple? There are times to turn your cheek, there are other times one does not.
 
That had to be intentional. :D

And yes, there is a time for this, and a time for that. How are you deciding which is which?
 
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