Conversation with Shiva Ki

Emails from Jimmy the Toucan; all text and photos below are from him...

Here's Shiva's small Spirit blade laid out next to my ready-to-test interpretation of his design. My knife is not finished, obviously, and should cut just somewhat better once the handle is wrapped and the blade geometry finalized during the polishing process.

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This photo shows a piece of bamboo that I dropped with one cut using my version of the small Spirit blade. I tried a cut with the small Spirit blade and you can see that cut going partially through the bamoo a couple of 'joints' to the right of the cut made with my blade. Both cuts were made when the plant was standing. The plant rolled as it fell and hit the ground. That's why the cuts appear to have been made from the left rather than the right. All blades, as they slow down, tend to turn in the cut to follow the grain... and this is well illustrated by the cut made with Shiva's blade. This applies to wood as well as bamboo. Bamboo at the place where my cut was made was 1.9 inches in diameter. Green bamboo (meaning 'living' bamboo) is easy to cut.

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I decided to give both blades something much more difficult to cut... a larger / dead / partially dried bamboo. I made ever effort to really lay into the cuts and to make sure that the blades did not turn down to follow the grain. If you look carefully, you might be able to see that the cuts were very slightly 'S' shaped. The upward turn at the end of each cut was the result of my body swinging around as I attempted to 'cut through' the cane. Shiva's small Spirit hung up in the cut. Nothing wrong with that, by the way... and I would guess the cause to be the recurve in the blade. The cut appears to have ended almost exactly between the two small vertical white marks on the bamboo, but actually continued to the vertical mark on the left.

My blade pulled out of the cut and the vertical scratch was placed on the cane by me to show where the cut ended since there were no naturally occuring visual 'landmarks' as there were on the cut I made with Shiva's blade. The scratch mark (very short) that looks like a continuation of the cut is *just* a scratch. I would guess it was made by the tip of my blade still being in contact with the bamboo even though the blade had pulled out of the cut. This can be seen a lot better in the close up pic.

This cane is fairly large... 2.5 inches where my cut was made... and plenty hard. Keep in mind that these cuts were made with 8 inch blades used in one hand. Cutting 3 inch diameter living (or just having been harvested) bamboo with a katana length blade using both hands??? Well... how difficult would that be?

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After I'd dropped the larger bamboo, I limbed it and then attempted to lop off pieces while holding the bamboo off the ground with my left hand. The two cuts toward the right of the picture were made with Shiva's small Spirit. My blade severed the cane because of the weight difference and because my handle shape feels better in *my* hand... but maybe not in yours. The cane was right at 1.2 inches (according to my trusty dial calipers) where I made the cut with my blade.

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Just a little 'visual' to show the wall thickness of the bamboo.

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On the very next node down the cane, your trusty reporter let the blade turn into the cut. Note that the knife is in the cane in the exact position in which it stopped. Just a bit more force and that blade could have pulled out of the cut and HURT me. Even worse, it could have slipped right out of my hand... blasted through the front window in my house and stuck right into my piano.

I'm never doing this again. This kind of thing is for the paid professionals.

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Any future testing will be conducted by my mild-mannered, sweet and loving wife, Maggie, using her own knives (one of which she can be seen here, clutched ever so gently in her tiny fist). Her's will cut just as well as mine... or perhaps better.

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Or, if Maggie is otherwise occupied... the testing will be conducted by Wilford Brimley's hungover brother, Bufford the Terrible.

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That's all, Folks!!!
 
Jimmy if that was the big nice Bamboo that was straight out front of the front door... me and you are gonna rumble! ;)

IF thats the bamboo im thinking of, its plenty big and thick wall too. Those cuts with an 8" blade are excellent. I say that becuase ive cut into enough of that bamboo to know its no easy task to get that deep with an 8" blade. And to pull out a blade that is unmarred in any way after such a forcefull blow is another feat all together.

On a sidenote- I would put my $$ on the Camp Knife Maggie made (last 2 photos) over the 2 your testing.:p
 
Thanks for taking the time to conduct the tests and provide a detailed and thoroughly enjoyable analysis Jimmy. I am most grateful.

Roger
 
Guess I should have asked first(concerning my avatar)!?
Wondering if I could use it in my revolving avatar theme[BFC acquisitions,an occasional pre-BFC example from my meager collection and Abby's pic] ;)

Lengthy Email coming tonight Jimmy,expect 5AM or thereabouts,so it'll be there tomorrow.Hoping you get a better arm twisting grip on bringing Shiva back on board than mine was,he was rather adamant about it plus I can imagine the kind of response he would get upon returning.I hate to say that but I believe it to be true. :)
Such a shame to as I feel we could all learn things.

Matt,thank you for your part in the testing,and congrats on what your doing and going to be doing at the new shop. :thumbup:
Continuing the tradition. :cool:

And you Gary :cool: Thank you for everything you've done,this was kinda' thrown in your lap by us two computer illiterates,well maybe I should just speak for myself,and everything you've done walking me through posting pics,sig line,et al,I won't forget.
OK,probably post here again,just wanted to get started.

Doug
 
You guys and gals will notice that in the one picture, the Fikes blade
isn't cord wrapped, Jimmy ended up just chopping away with the knife
the way she sat and didn't cord wrap it after all for these tests, that
is pretty cool to me that he was able to grip and do these tests with
the knife in this manner!

And Leatherbird, looks like you're letting off a bit of steam in your avatar
there ;)
G2
 
And Leatherbird, looks like you're letting off a bit of steam in your avatar
there ;)
G2
Ha,ha! Yes Gary.
Just recieved it today in another informative and wonderful Email from Jimmy.
Don't mean to offend anyone by it and hope it doesn't.
If it does. :cool:

Doug
 
I don't think any one will mind at all !
G2
 
From Jimmy's message:
Maggie's first large knife.
Here's a picture of ole 'Lockdown'.
And last,here's a picture of a tired Maggie.

Lockdown is Wilford and Bufford's really crazy brother.He likes to pull peoples head off just for fun.

Just thought I'd post this as I did sound abrasive in my prior post. :D:foot:

Doug
 
Hi, The Possum

Wanted to let you know that I'm working on a response to your questions and will get them posted as soon as things slow down here and I've had a chance to get email answered.

Jimmy
 
Hi, Leatherbird

Just a little correction. The knife shown in the photos is not Maggie's first knife... it's just her first large blade. Thanks again to G2 for the photo posting.

Jimmy... on the run, as usual
 
Jimmy,
Oops! Sorry,edited and fixed my mistake.
Forwarded you an Email from Shiva,just what ya' need,more Email. ;)

Doug
 
Just recieved my small Spirit blade back from Jimmy this morning,it was
returned as sharp as it left,maybe sharper. :eek:

Doug
 
That is a beautiful knife, Maggie.

Hi, Broos

Maggie sends her thanks. :) I'll be posting links to pictures of more traditional knives from her... not just the string wrapped handles... as she learns how to make them. Will probably be six months before we're up and running in our new shop.

Jimmy
 
Just recieved my small Spirit blade back from Jimmy this morning,it was
returned as sharp as it left,maybe sharper. :eek:

Doug

It was my 'magic sharpening technique' that put that edge on, Doug. I use the wattles on my face as a strop. :D

Old Wattled Face Jimmy ;)
 
Howdy "One Whack" Fikes!

Cleaved any standing hairs lately? lol :)

"Two Whack" Goo
 
Howdy "One Whack" Fikes!

Cleaved any standing hairs lately? lol :)

"Two Whack" Goo

Well!!! Howdy, Two Whack! Good to see ya here. :) No, I have not cleeeeeaved nairy a standing hair lately. Nor lopped a looped one, either. I'm too feeble for such activities, so I hereby designated all cutting of standing hair to you, G2 and my old, hairy-armed, friend, Greg.:D

Did you get your cutting video finished? If so, SEND ONE. Ya owe me one, ya bastid. ;)

And speaking of 'owe me one'... it's almost Christmas. I sure could use a Wild Goo knife from Santa. And so could Maggie. We've been good. No, that's a lie... Maggie's been good... so good that she deserves TWO 'Wild Goo's' from Santa. They're not as cleave-ish as MY knives, of course ( ;) ), harump, harump, but they'll do. Try to put a good edge on before you turn them over to UPSanta for delivery.

Hope all is well with you and yours out in that arid place ya call home!!

Thank you! Thank you!!!

Old Exclamation-Point Fikes!!!!!! :grumpy:
 
One Whack!

No I haven't finished my video yet, but I do owe you. That video of you practicing the "Art of Cutting" inspired me to get my knives sharper! :)

I've finally divided degrees of sharpness down to a little backyard scale:
#1. Shaving sharp= almost sharp, but kind of dull.
#2. Scary sharp= a little sharper than shaving sharp.
#3. Popping a 1/2 inch hair loop= sharp enough.
#4. Cleaving a standing hair= tree top sharp.
#5. Cleaving a free standing rolling paper tube= 9th chakra sharp! :D

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... of course if you breathed on it a few times when it's "9th chakra sharp", the edge would most likely oxidize off...

What I wonder is how many cuts you can make through a one inch manila with a "9th chakra sharp" edge and still be,... "9th chakra sharp"? :confused:

Two Whack Goo
 
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