Cool Knife Find After Junkie Grossness

[Dallas T]

I know, I was surprised that people kept sleeping outdoors, and surviving the cold!
I don't know how they manage.



That is sad.
I recently got the Naloxone nasal spray kit for if I run across overdose victims.

I would be very cautious of hitting a passed out junkie with narcan!, it works almost immediately and can cause them to into a crazy fight mode! I work on an ambulance and its used very cautiously due to if u take away their high they usually come out fighting! Just be super careful.

 

[Lapedog]

I would be very cautious of hitting a passed out junkie with narcan!, it works almost immediately and can cause them to into a crazy fight mode! I work on an ambulance and its used very cautiously due to if u take away their high they usually come out fighting! Just be super careful.

Lol that’s crazy. My experience is if you breathe on a junkie when they’re withdrawing it hurts them.

 

[palonej]

Here in NJ & NY it is an absolute epidemic. Years ago the Drs were handing out Oxy like candy to almost anyone.
They then cut tons of people off. Simple step to dope.

I have friends from many years ago who have issues with dope use and thusly keep a naloxone kit at my house.

While my rules are obviously no usage at my home I still want it there and my friends know where it is too. (I try to be a good friend because I have friends who have gone into dope addiction and come out the other side and are clean now....or clean enough [methadone])

I went out to get groceries one day and came home to my friend dying on my balcony. (Not breathing, still had a weak pulse). I gave him the naloxone and called an ambulance. Luckily I was able to revive hin with CPR before the ambulance got there.

The guy literally smoke ONE toke of dope and died. I know this guy doesn’t bang and could see the one black spot on the foil he dropped on my couch. (Implying one hit) This is because of all the fentanyl that is showing up in the dope in Toronto.

Scary time to be a junky, and scary for me. I am so grateful that pharmacies are giving out free naloxone kits. Still, not an experience I would want to repeat. Now I will never leave someone I know had addiction issues alone in my house again even if they have been clean for a while. It seems they are actually most vulnerable to overdose when they have been clean because they have no tolerance.

It’s sad because alot of my friends are from the underground rave community I used to party in when I was younger. Back then no one was doing smack. (Special K and MDMA being the drugs of choice) It seems like fast forward ten years and almost all of them have atleast had a period of time where they were using heroin.

Even if it doesn’t kill you it destroys the years of your life that you are using.

 

[Dallas T]

Lol that’s crazy. My experience is if you breathe on a junkie when they’re withdrawing it hurts them.[/QUOTE depends on the person and what they’re high on! But ive witnessed a scrawny maybe 140 lb dude take 4 officers to subdue

 

[palonej]

If you even think of breathing on a withdrawing junky, from 10 miles away, you will hurt him....badly.
Nothing on this earth, literally, comes any where near the incredible HELL of that particular experience. Nothing.

Lol that’s crazy. My experience is if you breathe on a junkie when they’re withdrawing it hurts them.

 

[Lapedog]

If you even think of breathing on a withdrawing junky, from 10 miles away, you will hurt him....badly.
Nothing on this earth, literally, comes any where near the incredible HELL of that particular experience. Nothing.

Yeah, it’s really bad. It’s like a literal internal torture for the human soul.

 

[Pilsner]

If you even think of breathing on a withdrawing junky, from 10 miles away, you will hurt him....badly.
Nothing on this earth, literally, comes any where near the incredible HELL of that particular experience. Nothing.

It is when they are high, though, no? The hurt does not come into it in terms of violence.

Tom

 

[DocJD]

Here in NJ & NY it is an absolute epidemic. Years ago the Drs were handing out Oxy like candy to almost anyone.
They then cut tons of people off. Simple step to dope.

Same around these parts : OH , KY, TN... so maybe everywhere . M.D.'s acting as the "pusher man " is truly sick . Just cause you got an Rx doesn't mean you're not a junkie or on that road .

 

[Dallas T]

It is when they are high, though, no? The hurt does not come into it in terms of violence.

Tom

What the narcan does is it swipes all the narcotic off the receptors in the body, so it instantly wipes away the high so yes it can induce what is perceived as pain which is why some will get extremely violent! Not saying all will, but an unknown homeless person that more than likely already has psych issues? It’s not a safe or good idea!

 

[Lapedog]

What the narcan does is it swipes all the narcotic off the receptors in the body, so it instantly wipes away the high so yes it can induce what is perceived as pain which is why some will get extremely violent! Not saying all will, but an unknown homeless person that more than likely already has psych issues? It’s not a safe or good idea!

No I’m saying the withdrawal itself is what is extremely painful.

If it wasn’t for the super painful withdrawl opiates wouldn’t be nearly as addictive as they are.

 

[Dallas T]

No I’m saying the withdrawal itself is what is extremely painful.

If it wasn’t for the super painful withdrawl opiates wouldn’t be nearly as addictive as they are.

Gotcha sorry. Yeah ur absolutely right there is like an indescribable itch that it can only scratch so to speak.

 

[Dallas T]

It’s super sad to c someone’s life controlled by it

 

[Lapedog]

Gotcha sorry. Yeah ur absolutely right there is like an indescribable itch that it can only scratch so to speak.

It is very sad. I would describe other addictions as more of an itch that you can’t scratch. (Most drugs outside the opiate family are psychologically addictive. Benzo withdrawl is very bad too, and surprisingly so is alcohol withdrawl for true alcoholics )

Whereas opiate addiction withdrawl I have heard described more as feeling like all your bones are breaking inside your body. It feels like someone is running a blow torch up and down your skin. Whatever it is one thing is certain, the physical pain is intense and extreme.

Also it changes their perception of time so that every 10 minutes feels like an hour. If they are lucky it will be over in 3 or 4 days. (Most break on the 3rd day because the wear it puts on their bodies and soul makes each day seem harder)

It is a real tradgedy and a huge cockup on the parr of the doctors who handed oxy out like candies.

Also it’s a fact that some people are more genetically likely to get hooked on exposure than others.

 

[jstrange]

I have seen my share of homeless camps, but that has to be the nastiest one I’ve laid eyes on! What city is it in? Also, nice find on the knives.

 

[stabman]

that's nasty.

rather weird that many of those syringes are unused.

It's a mix of used and unused syringes.
Some are still in packages, while others are dirty with bent needles.
Just a whole whack-load of syringes.

I went out to get groceries one day and came home to my friend dying on my balcony. (Not breathing, still had a weak pulse). I gave him the naloxone and called an ambulance. Luckily I was able to revive him with CPR before the ambulance got there.

That is not a situation one wants to be in.

stabman

stabman

 

[palonej]

Benzo, Zanax, is a horrible withdrawal. Alcohol withdrawal can literally kill an alcoholic.
Opiate withdrawal cannot be described. The nausea is all consuming. Picture the feeling you get on that first big drop on a roller coaster, constant for the entire time of withdrawal.....along with constant and powerful vomiting. Let’s not forget the burning liquid coming out the other end......entire length of withdrawal.
Legs feel like icy spiders are crawling up and down the inside of your legs, it is impossible to keep them still. One of the toughest parts. Entire length of withdrawal. Every joint in the body feels like there is ground up glass inside. Entire length of withdrawal.
All this wonderful shit along with the psychological mess inside your head that is all consuming.
Also, I wish it was 3 or 4 days. I recently went through all of this, voluntarily, and it took a little less than 5 weeks before I got a good night’s sleep or enjoyed a meal. 5 excruciating weeks with hardly any sleep or food.
Started a thread in WC on it.
It is an absolute and incredibly all consuming HELL that cannot be correctly described. Damn.
I’ll also tell you why so many relapse. The junkies go on a run, spend every penny with no chance of getting more cash or dope. They then crawl into a detox, get drugs to calm the withdrawals for 3 weeks, feel great and do the same shit all over again. Why?? There are withdrawals from the drugs that calm the withdrawals. Nauseating.
Sorry for the rant, but 3 or 4 days and you are just getting acquainted with Satan himself in his special and personal torture chamber.......and you will be there for a month. 5 minutes feels like a year.
This is no exaggeration at all.
Joe

It is very sad. I would describe other addictions as more of an itch that you can’t scratch. (Most drugs outside the opiate family are psychologically addictive. Benzo withdrawl is very bad too, and surprisingly so is alcohol withdrawl for true alcoholics )

Whereas opiate addiction withdrawl I have heard described more as feeling like all your bones are breaking inside your body. It feels like someone is running a blow torch up and down your skin. Whatever it is one thing is certain, the physical pain is intense and extreme.

Also it changes their perception of time so that every 10 minutes feels like an hour. If they are lucky it will be over in 3 or 4 days. (Most break on the 3rd day because the wear it puts on their bodies and soul makes each day seem harder)

It is a real tradgedy and a huge cockup on the parr of the doctors who handed oxy out like candies.

Also it’s a fact that some people are more genetically likely to get hooked on exposure than others.

 

[deltaboy]

Great find on those knifes!

 

[Lapedog]

Benzo, Zanax, is a horrible withdrawal. Alcohol withdrawal can literally kill an alcoholic.
Opiate withdrawal cannot be described. The nausea is all consuming. Picture the feeling you get on that first big drop on a roller coaster, constant for the entire time of withdrawal.....along with constant and powerful vomiting. Let’s not forget the burning liquid coming out the other end......entire length of withdrawal.
Legs feel like icy spiders are crawling up and down the inside of your legs, it is impossible to keep them still. One of the toughest parts. Entire length of withdrawal. Every joint in the body feels like there is ground up glass inside. Entire length of withdrawal.
All this wonderful shit along with the psychological mess inside your head that is all consuming.
Also, I wish it was 3 or 4 days. I recently went through all of this, voluntarily, and it took a little less than 5 weeks before I got a good night’s sleep or enjoyed a meal. 5 excruciating weeks with hardly any sleep or food.
Started a thread in WC on it.
It is an absolute and incredibly all consuming HELL that cannot be correctly described. Damn.
I’ll also tell you why so many relapse. The junkies go on a run, spend every penny with no chance of getting more cash or dope. They then crawl into a detox, get drugs to calm the withdrawals for 3 weeks, feel great and do the same shit all over again. Why?? There are withdrawals from the drugs that calm the withdrawals. Nauseating.
Sorry for the rant, but 3 or 4 days and you are just getting acquainted with Satan himself in his special and personal torture chamber.......and you will be there for a month. 5 minutes feels like a year.
This is no exaggeration at all.
Joe

Sorry you had to go through that. I bet you could survive anything.

I should have been more specific. 3 to 4 days for heroin to clear a light users body. Serious users are looking at more like a week for it to clear. That is when the worst of it ends. A month or two before you will get a good nights sleep. Those months are a living hell.

Also the length of the withdrawl depends on which opiate and its half life in the user’s body.

There is no junkie that wouldn’t change withdrawls with a meth user. (Meth users withdrawl means feeling lazy, lethargic and lots of sleeping)

Kudos to you for getting clean. I don’t know what an 80 year old who gets hooked on pain pills would do.

 

[palonej]

Thank you my friend! All that suffering was worth it, believe me.
One last thing......I haven’t met any ‘light’ opiate or heroin, same shit, users. Might start out like that, but it doesn’t take long to graduate to heavy usage......every single time.

Sorry you had to go through that. I bet you could survive anything.

I should have been more specific. 3 to 4 days for heroin to clear a light users body. Serious users are looking at more like a week for it to clear. That is when the worst of it ends. A month or two before you will get a good nights sleep. Those months are a living hell.

Also the length of the withdrawl depends on which opiate and its half life in the user’s body.

There is no junkie that wouldn’t change withdrawls with a meth user. (Meth users withdrawl means feeling lazy, lethargic and lots of sleeping)

Kudos to you for getting clean. I don’t know what an 80 year old who gets hooked on pain pills would do.

 

[Lapedog]

Thank you my friend! All that suffering was worth it, believe me.
One last thing......I haven’t met any ‘light’ opiate or heroin, same shit, users. Might start out like that, but it doesn’t take long to graduate to heavy usage......every single time.

“Light” usage usually means someone relatively new to it and still getting high from lower doses. Either that or someone who has cleaned up and then is starting again. (Hopefully they won’t go back to using their full dose from their last time they were hooked or that is an OD waiting to happen)

Most users are heavy users. It is the nature of the drug.