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So evidently the test had not been cleared by the FDA?

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Testing was performed using the cobas(R) SARS-CoV-2 test.
This test was developed and its performance characteristics determined
by LabCorp Laboratories. This test has not been FDA cleared or
approved. This test has been authorized by FDA under an Emergency Use
Authorization (EUA). This test is only authorized for the duration of
time the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the
authorization of the emergency use of in vitro diagnostic tests for
detection of SARS-CoV-2 virus and/or diagnosis of COVID-19 infection
under section 564(b)(1) of the Act, 21 U.S.C. 360bbb-3(b)(1), unless
the authorization is terminated or revoked sooner.
 
bluemax_1 said:
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I understand that it would be comforting to think that:
A) this isn't that serious
B) I've already had it, so I'm safe
C) everybody else has probably already had it so I'm/we're safe

but it's always smarter to examine the available data to make decisions and choices with, rather than hopes and wishes.

P.S.
I wanted to add, this post is not meant as a critique or directed at anyone here. It's purpose is to provide perspective, in light of the groups of people I've observed who would like to believe that this pandemic is over, and that despite evidence to the contrary, that there are a lot of hidden immune individuals who've already had it, and thus brought us (closer) to herd immunity.
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I'm older now so having lived a very good life so far has made me defensive against falling into the traps of false senses of security and anecdotal beliefs, but in retrospect a younger version of me would've most likely been more difficult to contain, despite the fact that even back then I benefited from a good degree of upbringing and edumacation.

With the Summer and the good weather in general upon us, I remain apprehensive about our younger cohorts because our biology has us prewired for those urgings which younger people seeks by way of group gatherings, mingling, socializing, parties, etc ;) It is much easier for me to sit back and practice what I preach but I often reflect / wonder about that much younger and relatively rebellious version of me all those years back.

This will be a tough one friend.
 
unwisefool said:
So evidently the test had not been cleared by the FDA?

Not Detected

Final BN
Testing was performed using the cobas(R) SARS-CoV-2 test.
This test was developed and its performance characteristics determined
by LabCorp Laboratories. This test has not been FDA cleared or
approved. This test has been authorized by FDA under an Emergency Use
Authorization (EUA). This test is only authorized for the duration of
time the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the
authorization of the emergency use of in vitro diagnostic tests for
detection of SARS-CoV-2 virus and/or diagnosis of COVID-19 infection
under section 564(b)(1) of the Act, 21 U.S.C. 360bbb-3(b)(1), unless
the authorization is terminated or revoked sooner.
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Yes. In the efforts to rapidly increase the testing capacity, there have been quite a few tests released under Emergency Use Authorization, as FDA approval generally takes many months of testing.

The unfortunate side effect is that not all tests are equal, and some may exhibit higher rates of false negatives or false positives than are preferable.

The cobas test is from Roche, and actually has demonstrated very good sensitivity. If you were symptomatic when tested, the negative result is most likely correct.

False negatives with the cobas test generally result from tests conducted before there's a high enough viral load (or too long after recovery). An example is from contact tracing and testing contacts who are asymptomatic and were infected/in contact with the PUI (Person Under Investigation) within a period of 1-4 days prior to the testing.
 
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Since the whole “pandemic” started, I’ve had 12 days I think now off work (not in the medical field) I’m so desensitized and tired it’s not funny so it’s best I leave my thoughts, feelings, etc at that


That being said at work today it occurred to me. This is the first time in 10 or 11 years I’m not with friends getting liquored up in Tennessee or in the pit at Blade show. Typically Blade is my first “vacation” I get of any year. Last time I had any real time off work was Christmas, or KYCKS a few weeks before that


2020 has beyond sucked
 
M67 said:
Since the whole “pandemic” started, I’ve had 12 days I think now off work (not in the medical field) I’m so desensitized and tired it’s not funny so it’s best I leave my thoughts, feelings, etc at that


That being said at work today it occurred to me. This is the first time in 10 or 11 years I’m not with friends getting liquored up in Tennessee or in the pit at Blade show. Typically Blade is my first “vacation” I get of any year. Last time I had any real time off work was Christmas, or KYCKS a few weeks before that


2020 has beyond sucked
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I 'Liked' your post, but I don't like that you are having to embrace the suck. I feel ya. I recognize that a lot of folks are over worked and under appreciated now more than usual.

I somehow dodged a bullet here in Colorado. My main employment was gas and oil related up to January. I landed a new job in a related but separate industry. We are an essential business and I am hugely thankful that I'm no longer in the cyclical industry I was in. Silver lining? I am grateful for work and that I can provide in spite of all the BS around me. A LOT of people cannot say the same thing.

I hope you can keep on keeping on, man.
 
Over 100K Americans have now lost their lives because of COVID-19. I know that what I have to say will upset you but it has to be said. Please do not use the quotation marks when referring to the current COVID-19 pandemic. That was not necessary in there and I will leave it at this.

Apart from the above which I have very strong feelings about, I do feel badly for those of you who were looking toward meeting up with some old friends and acquaintances at the annual Blade Show gathering, making some new friends and acquaintances and then posting up some of your findings and memories herein with the rest of us. We have some tough times ahead of us but I think, hope and expect us to get back on our feet again. We are very resilient both as a species and as a nation, despite some of our differences.
 
This was at a popular park in Toronto last weekend after the province started to lift restrictions. Covidiots were even seen shitting and pissing in people's driveways and backyards in the surrounding neighbourhood:
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And people wonder why it's necessary for the government to enforce restrictions... Leave it to people and we'd all be fucked.

Excuse my language but shit like this pisses me off.
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...stigation-tipping-scale-antibody-studies.html

For anyone who hadn't heard the details of the study in question:

- the 1.5% positive results for the specific test they were using, was actually within the false positives error margin, i.e. it's statistically possible (though unlikely) that all their positives might have been false.

- they recruited their test subjects by posting on social media, thus ignoring the fact that they WEREN'T testing a random segment of the local population, as there's a high likelihood that many of the people who responded to the social media call and volunteered to be tested had reason to believe that they'd had it recently, but had not been able to get tested at the time.

- in spite of these considerations, they took their 1.5% positive results and used some mental gymnastics to project an actual estimate of 5.8%, indicating that there were potentially ~80x more people infected and recovered, than the actual numbers of confirmed tested cases in the area.
 
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