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My meager collection currently has only USA made knives. I was a bit surprised at that and di not realize it until I saw this thread. That being said, I just ordered my first ever Mora!
 
I certainly do not trust Chinese made products. They make fakes and clones and not enough people care. They allow lying and cheating. They are only interested in scraping up as many of your pennies as possible. There is no way that they will use that money in my best interest... and why should they? There is zero reason to choose them other than price. I'm a regular blue collar hard working guy with little disposable income but I'll choose an "overpriced" USA/German/Japanese/Italian knife any single day of the week over a "Trusted Brand" that uses an untrustworthy country of origin. And I will ALWAYS choose a USA made knife above all else because that is where I am from and I want to support my peeps to help them continue making good stuff. [emoji106][emoji106]🏼[emoji106]🏼[emoji106]🏽[emoji106]🏾[emoji106]🏿
 
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I do condsider country of origin and buy american most of the time but im not afraid to buy foreign either. Cant easily avoid it many cases.
 
Quiet said:
You really, really need to stop using that word, or attempting to portray those of us with the values I've stated here as though our beliefs are bad. They aren't, sorry. If you disagree with my position, then you simply aren't paying attention. I take no issue with Chinese people, or their culture (I don't count their business ethics in this). I take the broader view of the subject, along with an understanding of what the Chinese Government's true endgame goals are along with their aforementioned business ethics. That's why I do my best to support any country other than China. That's all I'll say on the matter, because to go further takes this squarely into political territory, and thus lockage-and-redcards-passed-outsville.
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Chinese companies that make knives are no more a part of the Chinese government than American companies that make knives are a part of the American government. So I'll continue to call it the way I see it. And the way I see it, it's a classic case of Sinophobia.

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Also, Kizer? You mean the same Kizer who now sells their Ti/S35vn knives at the same same $250-$350 price points as American companies do? That Kizer?
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I've never paid anywhere near that amount of money for a Kizer knife. And the knives I've received from them were excellent in terms of fit, finish and value. Care to comment on the quality of the knives themselves? Or have you even seen one, let alone own one?
 
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I am on the fence with this one. i am very origin conscious when it comes to clothing,what i do hate is the idea of paying money for things produced under "slave labor". I am a fan of paying extra if the price is justified by more than brand/name. Additionally, i believe that every country is capable of producing a quality product, but like i said I'm more interested in how the product was made and not where. Factorys all over the world use slave labor, just because it says "made in Italy" it does not mean that it is a superior product to something made in the U.S. or even China for that matter. Some factories in Italy are run by mostly asian workers, another interesting thing to note as well is that to carry a sticker of "made in X" does not require that a 100% of the product is made in that country.

That being said, things made here in the USA will always be true and dear to my heart. There is something about producing things here that we should all be proud of!
 
bld522 said:
Chinese companies that make knives are no more a part of the Chinese government than American companies that make knives are a part of the American government. So I'll continue to call it the way I see it. And the way I see it, it's a classic case of Sinophobia.


I've never paid anywhere near that amount of money for a Kizer knife. And the knives I've received from them were excellent in terms of fit, finish and value. Care to comment on the quality of the knives themselves? Or have you even seen one, let alone own one?
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Sorry, but you're incorrect, our viewpoint isn't Sinophobia. It might be better referred to as patriotism. I can see how that term wouldn't have crossed your mind, however. Also, it makes you look incredibly ignorant and condescending when you try to wrap up exceptionally relevant and valid viewpoints into a cute little box and try to stick a BS buzzword label on it. It makes me think you're parroting it after you heard it elsewhere. A shame.

Also, no, I don't have any experience with Kizer knives, nor do I need to. I'm not interested in their products, and I'm sorry, what was that about not paying anywhere near $250-$350? What? I can't hear you:

http://www.bladehq.com/cat--Kizer-Cutlery--1742#/?_=1&sort.price_sort_desc=desc&page=1

Seems to be plenty of knives in the $200 range, and we've all seen the collaborations they've offered at the much higher pricepoint. Why is that? A large part of the cost of a US knife is labor. So, with labor being so much cheaper in China, why do their knives cost so much? For those sorts of prices, I'll buy American and support my countrymen.

Anyway, this is my last response to you. Good evening.
 
Couldn't care less where my blades are made. That said I am partial to Moräkniv because I have yet to find a better price-to-value experience. If a company in China made just as good knives for even less (possibility notwithstanding) then I wouldn't hesitate.
 
nolanzc said:
Couldn't care less where my blades are made. That said I am partial to Moräkniv because I have yet to find a better price-to-value experience. If a company in China made just as good knives for even less (possibility notwithstanding) then I wouldn't hesitate.
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BUD K has the wahoo killer in stock for $1.99 right now. It's one heck of a extremely similar to a mora knife. I've heard good things from people on them (not online). Mostly from fishermen who worry about a knife going overboard. Buy a dozen and don't worry about one taking a dive. Worst case they make a great kitchen or bait knife.
 
Blues Bender said:
Keep up the long winded anti-China talk guys! It's amusing to read while I sit here flipping my Reate ;)
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It's funny. There's a rather arcane definition of patriotism that encourages others to produce what they produce best so that we can concentrate on producing what we produce best. Then we can exchange goods and services with each other based on providing the highest quality products and services for the lowest cost. I realize that definition may be somewhat utopian and require a few folks to think outside the box, but it happens to be the one I subscribe to. And it might just provide the best odds we have of surviving one another.

They're rioting in Africa
They're starving in Spain
There's hurricanes in Florida and Texas needs rain

The whole world is festering with unhappy souls
The French hate the Germans, the Germans hate the Poles
Italians hate Yugoslavs, South Africans hate the Dutch
And I don't like anybody very much

But we can be tranquil and thankful and proud
For man's been endowed with a mushroom-shaped cloud
And we know for certain that some lovely day
Someone will set the spark off . . . and we will all be blown away

They're rioting in Africa
There's strife in Iran
What nature doesn't do to us will be done by our fellow man

-- Sheldon Harnick
 
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Basically anywhere except China, India or Pakistan (unless a knife was very old, in which case, those countries are fine.
 
I am not particular at all, so long as quality is decent. In some ways I've never understood only buying knives from "x" country, but there are endless classifications in this hobby of ours, so if people prefer building a collection of users from only particular countries, go for it. :thumbup:
 
Design Favorites: Russian, South African, Persian
Patriotic Favorites: American
Value Favorites: Chinese, Taiwanese
 
bld522 said:
Chinese companies that make knives are no more a part of the Chinese government than American companies that make knives are a part of the American government. So I'll continue to call it the way I see it. And the way I see it, it's a classic case of Sinophobia.
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You are wrong there. The communist government owns everything in China. No one has any rights. If they don't like what you're doing, they come and take you away in the middle of the night, off to some prison labor camp to rot for the rest of your life. Their government encourages theft of intellectual property, and actively participates in cyberterrorism and internet espionage. All factory production by American companies has to be negotiated and cleared with the communist government. It's a totalitarian regime masquerading as "communist". Ever wonder how so many counterfeits come out of communist China? The government encourages it, sometimes is even doing it on its own. This is what you're supporting if you buy stuff made there. Just wanted to let you know, although I know it won't change your view.
 
GrReaper said:
You are wrong there. The communist government owns everything in China. No one has any rights. If they don't like what you're doing, they come and take you away in the middle of the night, off to some prison labor camp to rot for the rest of your life. Their government encourages theft of intellectual property, and actively participates in cyberterrorism and internet espionage. All factory production by American companies has to be negotiated and cleared with the communist government. It's a totalitarian regime masquerading as "communist". Ever wonder how so many counterfeits come out of communist China? The government encourages it, sometimes is even doing it on its own. This is what you're supporting if you buy stuff made there. Just wanted to let you know, although I know it won't change your view.
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Awww, how cute!

Tells us more about your worldly views, right here in General Knife Discussion.
 
Twinsdad said:
How many of you guys are kind of particular about where their knives come from?
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I will buy a knife from any country...IF it has a feature I cannot obtain on a US made knife. I won't buy knives made offshore just to get a cheaper price on a knife whose equivalent is made in the US.
Personal preference.
 
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