CountyComm sucks.

Jerok, I will be interested in the report of your experience with County Comm. However, after your original post here, a negative report card from you will be looked upon with suspicion. You have reported that friends have been screwed by County Comm, but you have not backed that up with anything more than your original statement. I could start a thread and say that some of my friends were screwed over by TAD and it would mean just as much as what you have posted; absolutely nothing.

I appreciate being warned about bad dealers, but I also require proof that the dealer is indeed bad. You have provided none.
 
Having seen some of the complaints against County Comm, it appears to me that most are things that happen sometimes no matter how good a company is. One of the complaints I saw did seem to have been handled rather poorly by County Comm. It does appear however that there are far more cases where County Comm has had excellent customer service than the other way around. No company is going to have a perfect record in this area.
 
It may have started with the pants but why CC sucks is that they used the word "TAD" hidden in the background of the CC site.So that when you searched for TAD on google CC was the first site to come up.One day someone at CC changed the background color from black to a lighter color and you could read on the bottom of the webpage the words TAD and TAD gear.
 
Being one for making peace....I think that county Comm and TAD gear should settle their differences between themselves. Praising one company to trash the other in my 17 years of professional sales experience never works. What it boils down to is two people selling similar products and trying to make a living for their families. Both parties should respect that and try and work for their slice of the pie....It is my hope that both parties can agree to compete..but not get personal..

I compete against 28 other competitors in my trade..however I could at anytime call these people and have lunch with them and have a friendly discussion. They respect me..and I them...
 
I don't have experience with either company, but heres my 2 cents, I like to stick my nose in.

My father is self employed, and the best around at his job. A competitor moved in right down the street from him, and drastically undercut him on prices. This guy was sent by another business just to drive my father out of business. My father went to his landlord and asked why this guy was let into the same business park. The landlord said something to the effect of my father needed some competition. Well, my father did not resort to shady practices, he just did his job and did it well. Whenever people would come into his shop, asking for his competitors name, he would tell them where it was. The names were extremely similar, and confused many people. Soon, big time customers flocked to this competitor for the low prices.

Several months ago, I asked my father where the competitors business was. He said that they went under. Their low prices did not also bring along top flight work. Many people came back to my fathers business, and he got many new customers. Many of those customers came to my father to fix the poor work his competitor did.

Through it all, my fathers competitor told people that my father had died, gone out of business, gone to jail, did crappy work and other lies. Through it all my father did nothing to the man. He still holds no ill will towards the man either.

People go wherever they can spend the least, that's a given. But, smart buyers will go where they get the best job for their money. I've seen businesses go at each others throats. This does not work, it usually comes out bad as customers see what depths these businesses will go to to get the almighty dollar.
 
After doing some research and reading various statements here and abroad,I may have to retract my recommendation for County Comm.Although my three transactions went well with them,I cannot support a company that intentionally steals others idea's and products.There seem to be unethical business behavior's which if true,I cannot support this company with my money.There is alway's two sides to the story,but I'm not sure there would be an adequate explanation for this situation.If you search different forums you may find some of this info on your own.Perhap's County Comm can respond to some allegations other's have made on the forums?

What's up with this?hmmm.
"http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:XQx-etqjtO0J:countycomm.com/index1.htm+tadgear&hl=en"
 
If you put quotation marks around the link it doesn't work: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:XQx-etqjtO0J:countycomm.com/index1.htm+tadgear&hl=en

Notice it says:
These terms only appear in links pointing to this page: tadgear
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Google orders its search results by how many other websites link to a page. The word "tadgear" does not appear in the countycomm webpage (and it's not hidden there either). Other websites somewhere on the net have links to the countycomm page using the word "tadgear" to label the link. That's why google showed the countycomm page among the results for a search for "tadgear."

I'm not sure I understand this. It might be the results of a googlebomb -- someone deliberately setting up a lot of websites with a link to countycomm labeled tadgear with the intention of affecting google results. Or it might be that google was confused by websites that have links to countycomm and tadgear adjacent to each other. I have seen google search results in the past that seem to indicate google can confuse nearby links.
 
Cougar,
CC has since changed their website.Things that I pointed out and posted refer to November 2004.When they were caught red-handed doing this (I'm working on getting a pic of the actual screen so you can see what I am talking about) obviously it was changed quickly. But the fact of the matter is, no one knows how long it was like that before someone caught it.Basically, what I mean was the words "tripleaughtdesign T.A.D. GEAR TAD Ti LEOPARD ZIPPO TAD tripleaughtdesign T.A.D. GEAR TAD tripleaughtdesign T.A.D. GEAR TAD
www.tadgear.com http://www.tripleaughtdesign.com longbow" were imbedded to CCs website so that when you searched for any of these terms or anything to do with TAD, the CC website came up.The way they did this is they typed what is in quoted above in black lettering against a black background at the bottom of their webpage, so you could not readily see these words.
 
I understand what you're saying, rycen, but just putting the words in the background wouldn't make that page come up first at google (it would come up, but far from first), and the google results wouldn't say "These terms only appear in links pointing to this page: tadgear"

It would be interesting to see a screenshot of that background, though. There's a way to put keywords on a website so they show to search engines and not to viewers -- everybody does it; that's how you tell the search engines what your website is about (whether you're honest in your choice of keywords or not). There is no reason to hide words in a background like that, not to fool search engines anyway. I can't help wondering about that. Who saw that background? Anybody? Or did you only hear about it?
 
TOMBSTONE said:
I cannot support a company that intentionally steals others idea's and products.

Tombstone-
Just curious, but just what idea or products are you suggesting that County Comm has stolen? If you are refering to the, "TAD GEAR EXCLUSIVE DOUBLE REINFORCED HAND POCKETS TO RESIST POCKET CLIP WEAR" feature on their Force-10 cargo pants, then I would suggest to you to take a look at this from the US Patent Office and then decide for yourself:

http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?docid...txt%26s1=Wrangler%26OS=Wrangler%26RS=Wrangler

Seems this "feature" was the brain child of a Mr. Jeffrey Blaine Isom of Concord, NC and patented in May '04 by Wrangler Apparel. Thank you U812 for the true scoop on this idea.

And once again, County Comm's cargo pants do not have the feature anyway, so just who is stealing or copying who? :confused:
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Paul Davidson said:
BTW TAD was not the first company to put out pants with reinforced pockets to reduce clip wear. I seem to remember Blackie Collins bringing out a line of jeans with the same feature as well as some others a few years ago. I don't think they went over too well because they were expensive and MOFUGLY.
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I just want to say that my first post in this thread was incorrect. Blackie Collins' Toters jeans do not have reinforcement for pocket clip wear. My bad.
 
First of all, unless someone has a patent or trademark on an idea, it cannot be "stolen." That's the nature of competition in a free market. If the company was selling fake Waved folding knives, I could see getting my nose bent out of joint. From what I understand, Countycomm and TAD had some sort of business deal that fell through and prompted feelings of animosity between them. I don't blame any company for fighting back when another company starts bad-mouthing them. I discovered Countycomm through a sales page at TAD that specifically took a shot at CC.

I also don't think most people care one way or another that two companies -- competitors -- aren't getting along. Most of us vote with our wallets and factor in customer service. We've heard from plenty of people who like both companies. We've heard from a couple of people who don't like TAD; I personally have no problem with them or their website or anything else.

We've also heard from one person who claims unnamed friends have received rude customer service from the company -- which we know to be untrue because of the overwhelming response from real customers who've either had flawless service, or remedial service that went above and beyond in order to keep them happy.

To me, the truth is clear. The company offers good products at good prices and goes out of its way to provide friendly, helpful, efficient service. Anyone who tries to claim otherwise without personally experiencing it -- and yes, anyone can have a bad customer service experience -- cannot be telling the truth based on what we know from this thread alone. Specifically, anyone who tries to claim there's a pattern of bad service from Countycomm is lying or speculating -- because we have in front of us proof of just the opposite.

I like Countycomm. I like Nick and Frank. I like them so much, in fact, that I promote them at The Martialist. I go out of my way to point out products they have that I've enjoyed, when I'm talking to members of my discussion forum. I obtained a supply of little LED lights from Countycomm so I could sell them at cost to people at my place of business, so those people would be better prepared for the next summer power outage. I did this because I believe in the company and the people who run it.

That's why I've been so intensely critical of this topic, which I see as an unjustified and unsubstantiated attempt to malign the company from someone sympathetic to a competitor.
 
FrankDL said:
TOMBSTONE said:
I cannot support a company that intentionally steals others idea's and products.

Tombstone-
Just curious, but just what idea or products are you suggesting that County Comm has stolen? If you are refering to the, "TAD GEAR EXCLUSIVE DOUBLE REINFORCED HAND POCKETS TO RESIST POCKET CLIP WEAR" feature on their Force-10 cargo pants, then I would suggest to you to take a look at this from the US Patent Office and then decide for yourself:

http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?docid...txt%26s1=Wrangler%26OS=Wrangler%26RS=Wrangler

Seems this "feature" was the brain child of a Mr. Jeffrey Blaine Isom of Concord, NC and patented in May '04 by Wrangler Apparel. Thank you U812 for the true scoop on this idea.

And once again, County Comm's cargo pants do not have the feature anyway, so just who is stealing or copying who? :confused:
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Here was some of the suggested idea and product stealing I read about.

Nylon Single Sheaths >>> stolen from TADGear
Flamed Ti Zippos >>> copied idea from TADGear
Flamed CC knives >>> copied idea from Neil Blackwood & Nemesis Knives
Flamed Ti Crowbars >>> copied idea from Eric Blair
Reinforced pocket clip patches >>> copied idea from TADGear


It was also claimed,although I'm not sure all the details but it was stated that they had something directly to do with putting ARC lights out of business.If you do some research you can find some info out yourself.It is enough to make me reconsider possibly supporting a company that operates in that way.
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As I recall CC did have a sale of ARC AAA's for something like $15, which I guess put pressure on ARC since it was undercutting what ARC was selling them for. IMO, without knowing the deatils, that was more of a problem with ARC policy rather then CC's bad acts.
 
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