CPK EDC2

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Hey fellow pointed sharp thingy fans ... I got my EDC2 from the preorder and I am really liking the knife ... I think it will fill the spot I hoped between some of my other knives ...

But I have a question ... I have very little experience with 3V ... just one other knife and that is very different ... so my question is this ...

What do you veterans with a smaller knives (spefically EDCs) in 3V steel recommend for sharpening angles. I know some about the steel but mostly from reading ... so in practical use situations ... how acute of an angle seems to be the sweet spot and still get the benefit of the toughness of 3V in this size blade? ... And does it perform better with a micro bevel or will it perform as well with a high flat grind?

Any suggestions would be appreciated ... thanks JJ
 
I've experimented quite a lot with bevel angles on the edc and in my experience, you can get away with quite a thin edge. It all depends on what you're using the edc for of course. If you'll be prying and scraping or cutting through cladded wire and the like, a fatter bevel is a better geometry, apart from supporting the sharp part and keeping it sharp longer. For most cutting type uses, go as thin as you like.
 
I like 15 dps with small micro bevel on mine.

It can be damaged easier the thinner you go but it's pretty easy to repair.

The fine edge stability is not as good as something like optimized W2, but it's pretty close to being in the same league, meaning it's way better than average and will tolerate narrower angles than most super steels that folks might be familiar with.

Don't be afraid to go thin with it, this isn't a steel with huge carbides and lots of free alloy. We did our job minimizing structures that reduce edge stability so it plays well at narrow angles.
 
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JJ_Colt45 said:
Hey fellow pointed sharp thingy fans ... I got my EDC2 from the preorder and I am really liking the knife ... I think it will fill the spot I hoped between some of my other knives ...

But I have a question ... I have very little experience with 3V ... just one other knife and that is very different ... so my question is this ...

What do you veterans with a smaller knives (spefically EDCs) in 3V steel recommend for sharpening angles. I know some about the steel but mostly from reading ... so in practical use situations ... how acute of an angle seems to be the sweet spot and still get the benefit of the toughness of 3V in this size blade? ... And does it perform better with a micro bevel or will it perform as well with a high flat grind?

Any suggestions would be appreciated ... thanks JJ
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I think Nathan says they come at an 18 degree angle. That’s pretty acute -although I think some have taken it even a touch lower. It’s heat treated to very high hardness, and with the general edge stability attributed to 3V, there shouldn’t be any problems. It’s a smaller knife, so I wouldn’t be too concerned about toughness (with that blade stock in a 3.3” blade, I think you’d have to do something really crazy to break it...)
I like micro bevels and put them on most of my blades - esp. on those that are thin behind the edge (which these are :thumbsup:).
I’m sure others with more experience will weigh in.

ETA: well, the man himself weighed in so just ignore anything I said... :)
 
I got about 17 or 18 in my attempts to figure out the angle on it so I would guess you're right about how they come around 18 degree ... I probably will stick around 17 degrees but might try one at 15 with the micro bevel as Nathan suggested ... that would cut as well as a 17 flat grind anyway ...

I usually prefer flat grinds for most my smaller knives unless I will be putting them to harder uses ... but wasn't sure on a smaller blade in 3V if that might compromise some of the biggest benefit ...

but a micro bevel won't change the way it cuts much so maybe I'm better of leaving one on it instead of taking it to a flat grind ...

Thanks for the replys JJ
 
JJ_Colt45 said:
I got about 17 or 18 in my attempts to figure out the angle on it so I would guess you're right about how they come around 18 degree ... I probably will stick around 17 degrees but might try one at 15 with the micro bevel as Nathan suggested ...that would cut as well as a 17 flatgrind anyway ...

I usually prefer flat grinds for most my smaller knives unless I will be putting them to harder uses ... but wasn't sure on a smaller blade in 3V if that might compromise some of the biggest benefit ...

but a micro bevel won't change the way it cuts much so maybe I'm better of leaving one on it instead of taking it to a flat grind ...

Thanks for the replys JJ
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Maybe I am misunderstanding you.
Flat grind generally refers to how the blade is ground overall. A flat grind will still typically have a secondary bevel. A micro bevel is in addition to that. I think you mean a zero grind (full v) as found on a scandi?
 
I don't mean a full flat grind blade ... I just mean sharpening to say a 17 degree angle and not putting a small micro bevel at 19 or 20 degrees on it ... the edge can be a bit more prone to chip or not as stable as with a small micro bevel ... but they are great slicers ...
 
Yeah I think after Nathans post and yours ... I may try one at 15 degrees with a micro bevel and the other I may give it a try at 17 without the micro bevel ...

I'll try one of each and see which works the best ... I appreciate you both replying ... and thanks Nathan for sharing your knowledge on the steel ... I'm just learning it ... but so far I enjoy it.
 
After seeing how my edc2 and LC hold their factory applied edge I doubt there would be any issue at 15 dps. I bet it would hold up just fine.
 
91bravo said:
Ha ha! When you gonna get moved in? You've been moving for over 2 years now...:eek:
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I know. We bought the lot on Innerarity island. We’re relisting out farm here in MO with a real realtor March 1st. Hopefully by the end of the year. you’re going to blade this year?
 
Well I am definately not a pro at sharpening ... and the EDC2s came with nice edges ... but after discussing possibly more acute angles for the 3V in theses smaller blades ...

I took one down to 15 degrees with a small microbevel around 17/18 degrees ... and just removed any micro bevel on the other at a 17/18 degree flat grind ...

I have to say I liked 3V on a bit larger knife I've used for camping/hiking/even used for some hog hunting that I have a slightly convexed edge on ...

these EDC2s are impressing me ... I wasn't sure if they may be a bit small for my hands but the well thought out ergos and design have made them very comfortable ...

and as mentioned they cut well from the box ... but just a little time refining the edge to what I stated above ... they are incredibly useful comfortable and 3V is impressing me more all the time ... guess you can teach an old dog new tricks ...

I can say they definately won't be my last CPKs ... thanks to the crew @ CPK and the good folks that got me involved in them ... these EDC2s perform far above their size ... and feel even better in my hand while doing it ...

I'm ready to get some more free time to get out and really put them to work and see how they are after more use but they are better slicers then I believed they would be and the size leads to more overall usefulness ... even to someone like me that rarely touches a fixed blade under 4 and a half inches ... aside from a caper to skin trophy animals on the occasion I'm lucky enough to get one.

Now if I could find someone and talk them into putting some beautiful wooden scales on one of them for me ... just anyone that maybe has been known to do such a task ... anyone ? ... Bueller ... Bueller ... Bueller ... :rolleyes:

but for now looking forward to some other flavors of CPKs ...

Very nice knives Nathan & crew !!! And thanks to everyone that took time to reply to my questions about how fine I could take these edges and still have the benefits of 3V ... it's much appreciated ... JJ
 
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