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CPM Cruwear Military
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Like other sprints the first ones delivered are probably going to be tough to get. KC has taken their page down that I know was there. GP doesn't promise anything other than an e-mail when they get in.
It's getting harder and harder to get the sprints. It speaks to the demand there is for them. I know it's a lot of work for Spyderco and there is not a higher markup on them for Spyderco so I tend to be pretty grateful to Spyderco when they come out with them. The mule team program as well. They aren't exactly choosing easy to work on steels either.
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It's getting harder and harder to get the sprints. It speaks to the demand there is for them. I know it's a lot of work for Spyderco and there is not a higher markup on them for Spyderco so I tend to be pretty grateful to Spyderco when they come out with them. The mule team program as well. They aren't exactly choosing easy to work on steels either.
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I've been pretty lucky with the sprints and being in the right place at the right time this year and I'm extremely grateful to Spyderco for what they do in this area. As it sits right now I currently have blades with CTS-204P, S110 and K390, all crazy high quality steels, all from Spyderco and all purchased at extremely reasonable prices (actually ridiculously low prices for S110V and K390) and this all just in the past couple of months. I'm really hoping to be lucky enough to snag one of these Cruwear Millies but I can't really complain if I can't get one, it's been a really good year so far.
Thanks Sal and Spyderco!
EDIT: Oh BTW Sal, If y'all happen run across an extra sheet of CPM Cruwear and do a run of Paramilitary 2's then um, yeah, I would totally buy one, or two, or three... Just saying
I'm sorry to rain on everybody's parade, but it is hard for me to get excited about this knife. Reasons being you ask? Simple, the knives will be gone in minutes, and several of us here, that would love to get one, won't. Oh we can, we'll just have to pay an ungodly amount, from somebody who was able to get one, for no other reason than to gouge people. Sorry, but it's true. Look at the green PM2's.
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Like other sprints the first ones delivered are probably going to be tough to get. KC has taken their page down that I know was there. GP doesn't promise anything other than an e-mail when they get in.
It's getting harder and harder to get the sprints. It speaks to the demand there is for them. I know it's a lot of work for Spyderco and there is not a higher markup on them for Spyderco so I tend to be pretty grateful to Spyderco when they come out with them. The mule team program as well. They aren't exactly choosing easy to work on steels either.
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I've had luck as well getting the knives I want for the most part. However, the Military and Para2 are the ones I really go after. It's awesome that manufacturers make such a variety, speaks to the feedback they receive.
Rev, I'm not not just wanting to sound like a complainer. I love the fact that Spydeco does such cool things. I just wish, that they would maybe run a few more, and that way maybe a few more people could enjoy the cool stuff.
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Hi L2Bravo,
We generally run about 1000. On occassion, we've run 1500. What would you suggest as a solution?
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We generally run about 1000. On occassion, we've run 1500. What would you suggest as a solution?
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I don't want to judge by your join date here on Bladeforums, your experience with purchasing LE knives. However, I will say that reading (a lot) helps a great deal in aquiring items that would otherwise be out of reach. I've seen a lot of people that truly complain, it's not necessarily about the availability, but the fact that the items are priced out of their reach. Any hobby costs the participant time, energy, and money. These folks also seem to "want" the best of the best (price, fit and finish, materials, exacting delivery dates) while not having a complete grasp of what it takes, not to mention a realistic outlook. It's tough for any manufacturer to accurately determine how many will be enough. The Para in CPM-D2 was a good example. A lot were made and they didn't sell like hotcackes as much as the folks that swore they wanted one predicted.
My point is, if you know where to look and do your research, you can easily find the items you are looking for. Now, whether one can afford them comfortably is a whole different topic all together. One example, I've been able to collect every sprint version of the Para2, as well as build up my collection of Te C36. It's taken time, luck, and meticulous planning. Unfortunately, a lot of the "cool stuff" ends up in peoples "safes" for a time. IMHO, there are plenty made as is folks just need to be more focused and plan things out with a little more effort and a lot more patience.
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If you have a good relationship with your knife dealer he/she will get you knives. All you have to do is let them know which sprint you want a good while before they ship.
I don't think there has ever been a Spyderco sprint I haven't been able to get. I pass on quite a few since I use my knives and rarely sell or trade any.
I think for knives that have very high demand, such as the Para2, that you step up the number so there are more to go around. I have no idea what the numbers should be though. If I remember correctly the orange Para2's sold out their pre-order in about 10 days, the green Para2's sold out in about 7 days. The popularity of the Para2 has increased tremendously in the past 18 months and I think a lot of that is due to this forum. I was not expecting that much demand for the Cruwear Military because the Military is a little large for many people and many jurisdictions, and KC had their preorders available for a long time.
Because it is so hard to predict the demand I would suggest that you consider second runs of some of the models that seem to sell out quickly.
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It's a tightrope to balance as I'm sure that getting stuck with knives isn't Spyderco's or the dealer's goal... But I suppose a good compromise is making an additional run of the ones that do sellout fast and have high demand. Of course, this goes against the unwritten rule of sprints where it is supposed to be one, done and never again so there is the collector's side of things that will disagree. The rarity makes sprints special but if you ask me, an extra special knife like a 20CP PM2, or this Cruwear will remain special and will be so for more people if they owned it.
Personally, I'm ok with more people having a great knife and won't be one to be disappointed that I can't flip it on ebay because they are readily available. I won't be the guy on the exchange saying "I bought the knife but I don't like it so I'm selling it for $500, screw you". Things will probably stay the same because some collectors and many flippers will be very vocal about commissioning a second run of a sprint.
Personally, I'm ok with more people having a great knife and won't be one to be disappointed that I can't flip it on ebay because they are readily available. I won't be the guy on the exchange saying "I bought the knife but I don't like it so I'm selling it for $500, screw you". Things will probably stay the same because some collectors and many flippers will be very vocal about commissioning a second run of a sprint.
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It is also true that if you stay on top of it, you can get any knife that drops. That is from my experience but I know there are many who cannot be on the ball with releases. The opportunity to get them is there and a second run may sell out fast also so what then? The reality is that we do need to act on these hot knives so it starts with US and what WE choose to do.
Rev, you are preaching to the choir, on the "pay to play" concept. My dissent on the matter, is people screwing others. Buying and flipping, that is the part that pisses me off. As for the Cruwear, I'll take three. Where do I pay? You see Rev, it's not about the money, it's the principle. I'm all good with paying Spyderco what they ask for a knife or three. I however am not really cool, with you broom raping me, because you got one, and I didn't. Especially, when you didn't even want it. Sorry, just not that torqued up for them, or anything else for that matter. Although I appreciate the very basic lesson in economics, and one's need to plan, we are talking about knives. Am I under the wrong impression, that most of these are sold, before they ever hit the shelf? If so, screw it, why bother? I have not been able to find anywhere that is pre-selling the Millies. Maybe you can direct me? Thanks for the assistance.
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I would imagine that one of the main constraints on the number of sprints produces would be the cost and availability of the steels and the difficulty of processing, etc. If there is a finite amount of blade stock available then there are only so many knives you can get from it. I can see where something like CPM Cruwear would not be produced in large batches as it has been mentioned that this steel has never been used in a production knife before.
Sal, you are a class act guy, and build great knives. I appreciate both. Rev mentioned that D2 Para's didn't sell. I guess I wasn't around for those. Got any left? And I am being fully serious.
I realize fully, that knives on shelves, don't make money, sales make money. But I would think that in the case of a long awaited item like this, you would be able to have a good grasp on the market. Heck, take prepaid orders, if that secures it some. I think what would make it a little better, is if on something like this, it would be possible to bump it up a bit. Is that doable?
Sir, I am the very last guy here that is going to tell you how to run your business. I do both see, and appreciate all that you do. God knows you don't have to. By my only suggestion of a bump in production, it would satisfy both the collectors, and the users as well. I hope you are not offended by my opinion. Thanks, Josh
I don't buy much steel, but I would imagine one could buy all of the M390, D2, 204, M4, K390, etc. that you wanted. I would imagine that this is a logistical thing more so. In regards to production. Who knows?
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There is only one dealer I know of that had a pre-order i think they have pre-sold their allotment. There are a few others expecting to get these and they aren't doing pre-orders, you just have to be ready to jump on them when they drop.
Do a quick internet search for "Cruwear Military" and it will bring up at least 4 or 5 dealers who are expecting to have them in stock and the expected price. Most of them have a sign up for them to email you when they are in stock. In the meantime keep checking on the dealers websites and keep an eye on the forums here for someone saying that they are in stock.
Thanks for the advice, I will certainly do that. Hopefully it will pan out in such a manner. I really think that these are going to be a great knife, and would like the chance to own a couple.
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