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CRK Slipjoint.....!!!

Discussion in 'Chris Reeve Knives' started by nyefmaker, May 31, 2018.

  1. lambertiana

    lambertiana Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 7, 2000
    Can anyone who has a regular production sample measure the blade length? What is it, measured from the handle to tip? The original specs were 3.123" and that is what the CR website says, but I have seen claims of 3".
     
  2. blanco112

    blanco112 Gold Member Gold Member

    783
    Nov 1, 2016
    Do you happen to have a screenshot of it saying 3"? I recalled seeing 3.123" and that's what it says now as well. Never seen it being listed at 3" on the site although I've heard the comments from Bill and Tim saying it's 3".
     
  3. Lone_Wolfe

    Lone_Wolfe Dazed and Confused Platinum Member

    May 3, 2011
    Remember though, Tim did say these are prototypes.

    Impinda2BladeMeasured.jpg
     
  4. blanco112

    blanco112 Gold Member Gold Member

    783
    Nov 1, 2016
    I just hope they do the right thing, fix the blade length and make it 3.25" or so.
     
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  5. tank sniper

    tank sniper

    130
    Jan 8, 2018
    i know its a stupid question but... so exactly how is blade length determined.
     
  6. PirateSeulb

    PirateSeulb Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 6, 2017
    It can vary by jurisdiction and/or the person doing the measuring. Some measure the edge and some measure where the handle ends to the tip.
     
  7. tank sniper

    tank sniper

    130
    Jan 8, 2018
    my guess for law enforcement.... from where the handle ends to the end of the blade (the point) which would be the simplest and quickest and longest measurement
     
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  8. Peter Hartwig

    Peter Hartwig Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 29, 2008
    I believe that is the standard way of doing it. Edge can vary considerably form blade length, such as blades with choils. The laws are based on penetration capability. The theory being a 3" or less blade is not as lethal.
     
  9. kidcongo

    kidcongo

    Jan 12, 2013
    But apparently I can take down an airplane with the little knife-shaped thingy on my nail clippers (at least according to the security agent).

    It’s a messed up world we live in, and there is no right answer. Myself I would consider a 2.5” blade completely lethal. Anything that can slice through the first layer of clothing, or make it into the major veins is pretty much dangerous, so in many ways I think the whole blade-length policy is completely dumb. Smaller knives are just as lethal, and much easier to conceal, so the whole argument is really backwards and bunk. Sounds like too many town councillors and arm-chair enforcement officers sitting around their desks dreaming up draft legislation where none is really needed.
     
  10. Riz!

    Riz! Gold Member Gold Member

    May 5, 2014
    It really is a shame that these are so expensive. I bet at $250 they wouldnt be able to keep them in stock. Not hating on CRK. I have owned a few and they were all exceptional, but I just dont see how these can cost $450.
     
  11. bhyde

    bhyde UNNECESSARY EVIL Staff Member Super Mod Moderator Platinum Member

    Mar 19, 2002
    They are not as simple to make as they look to make.
    Depending on your end goal, you choose the machining technology that makes the most sense. In this case, the backspring and the mating part of the blade are made with a wire EDM. This is one of the machines I have personal experience with and one of the most accurate. It removes some of the issues associated with normal milling technologies that impart stresses into the part that cause warp, twist, etc. The EDM is capable of taking the tolerances normally associated with CRK to another level. Sub .0001in
    More or less, it's the properties of the technology used than the tolerances it's capable of and it isn't cheap.

    It astounds me that people are capable of looking at any manufactured item and are instantly capable of telling what it should be worth based on the looks alone.

    On another note, I did drop by the shop for a bit to pick up the Damasteel Inkosi today and had some time to talk to Tim Reeve about the Impinda.
    He states that the UK laws are based on edge length, which the Impinda is at 2.95in.
    Also, I will likely get an Impinda for a passaround out of the next batch.
    Stay tuned.
     
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  12. FourD

    FourD Gold Member Gold Member

    95
    Nov 30, 2017
    People are used to a non-locking knife costing less than a comparable locking knife. This knife turns the trend around, which is more than a little bit surprising. I would imagine there are some things that make this knife unique, and possibly very interesting, but I personally am not seeing it. And, while I could buy the "expensive to make" argument for a framelock, I find it hard to swallow with a traditionally-styled knife.
     
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  13. blanco112

    blanco112 Gold Member Gold Member

    783
    Nov 1, 2016
    While I get what you're saying you can make this argument about all of CRK's knives. You can get all sorts of locking knives for $20 if you wanted and plenty of titanium framelocks under $200. The same reason that drives someone to pay $450 for a CRK when they can get a Kizer for much cheaper can apply to someone who'd want to own an Impinda.
     
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  14. Riz!

    Riz! Gold Member Gold Member

    May 5, 2014
    @bhyde

    I understand the “cost to make” factor. If I was going to drop that much coin on a slippy I would gp for a fully hand made one like a TA Davison (which would likely cast more than $450)

    I saw a video review and the guy showed things like the back spring not being flush with the handles and a gritty action. To me and only me, the price doesnt match the item. Now I can honestly say I havent held one and once I do, my opinion could change. It could also be that for the first few runs they were dialing in the processes and that the action and backspring issues will be resolved.

    Ultimately items value are determined by the buyer. Some will think it is worth $450 and some wont. I got nothin but love for CRK and respect that they are innovating. This knife is going to cause other makers to get on the modern slipjoint train and that is going to be really good for the knife industry!
     
  15. FourD

    FourD Gold Member Gold Member

    95
    Nov 30, 2017
    I'll pay more for a well-made frame lock from CRK simply because many other companies can't make a frame lock to the same standard. I don't see that same "value" in a CRK slipjoint.

    I will admit I like the looks of the Impinda, but I'd probably sooner buy a Kizer ZipSlip myself.
     
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  16. bhyde

    bhyde UNNECESSARY EVIL Staff Member Super Mod Moderator Platinum Member

    Mar 19, 2002
    Justification for the current price really isn't what I am after as an end goal- That's squarely on CRK..I can rationalize the why's to myself and am only trying to show that there could be some reasons for the price. None of which actually addresses what CRK allows dealers for markup or their own margins after royalties that may or may not be paid to Bill Harsey.
    Not sure about any gritty action..The few that I have handled didn't have that, but then again..They were new and it wouldn't surprise me to experience some grittiness after having it in the pocket and getting lint and crap trapped in the action because it's a fairly open system.
    You are correct on getting it dialed in as far as the backspring..that is one of the things they are working on for sure.
    Great choice on the TA Davidson..Love his knives..along with some of the others!
     
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  17. Riz!

    Riz! Gold Member Gold Member

    May 5, 2014
    I also think the old school nail nick doesnt do the design justice. An Mnandi style nick or a fuller would look way better and still function to provide some friction for a pinch open, which seems to me the way most people would open this model
     
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  18. PirateSeulb

    PirateSeulb Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 6, 2017
    I agree that is probably the biggest reason I don't have a lot of interest in this.
     
  19. NCHunter78

    NCHunter78

    350
    Feb 14, 2016
    My impinda absolutely destroyed about 18 envelopes this morning. Beast Mode.
     
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  20. Ajack60

    Ajack60 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Apr 21, 2013
    @NCHunter78, can it be taken apart ?, did it come with tools for take down ????
     

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