CRKT M16 totally failed!

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Loose screws happen, I'd say that wasn't the only one you have.

I woudn't call it a total failure, it has a very easy fix, and was totally preventable. CRKT has a great warranty, so they'll send you a new thumbstud, and you should invest in some loctite as others said. I wouldn't dream of using something for a year and not checking that all the parts are secure. Screws don't just suddeny fall out, they loosen up over time. Take it as a lesson learned and move on.
 
Silent H said:
Loose screws happen, I'd say that wasn't the only one you have.

I woudn't call it a total failure, it has a very easy fix, and was totally preventable. CRKT has a great warranty, so they'll send you a new thumbstud, and you should invest in some loctite as others said. I wouldn't dream of using something for a year and not checking that all the parts are secure. Screws don't just suddeny fall out, they loosen up over time. Take it as a lesson learned and move on.
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Well, the point is - I don't think that the screw get lose, and unscrew itself over time.
I think, that every time one opened the blade, the thumb (aka stop pin) got hit with some force.
I belive, it just broke, and fall apart.
In this case, it's not poot maintenance to blame.

And yes: I have learned the lesson... The CRKT lesson of poor choice.
 
countertac said:
probably broke and fall off,
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If it broke at all , it would have been in use , probably noticeable and we'd have photo evidence to examine .

Much more common to have screws "back out" just from jarring / vibrations of use . Then they are much weaker and may "fail" or just fall out .

This is why God created loctite and many similar products .

I feel weird to defend CRKT because they are infamous for QC problems . But unless I see a cleanly sheared thumb stub , I'll assume at worst they forgot the loctite .

Part of owning anything with fasteners exposed to vibration / use is to check and tighten (with loctite added) as necessary .
 
countertac said:
"Try using the flippers"? Don't You noticed, the thumb stud is a stop pin? The blade won't stand still.
And please, skip the "drama queen" BS in Your posts.
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Wow, that is some awful engineering. Stick something in the hole.
 
countertac said:
Yeah, so "totally failed" means, that I shoud die, because of this? :)
The knife that breaks from fliping is in my opinion, a total failure. I can't even think about using CRKT in the woods.
The thumb probably broke and fall off, it's not easy to unscrew one, I mean, on purpose.
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You are learning the lesson many of us have. CRKT makes junk. I guess we all learned it a long time ago. This must be your first. Try Benchmade, cold steel or Spyderco. Even Kershaw.
 
DocJD said:
If it broke at all , it would have been in use , probably noticeable and we'd have photo evidence to examine .

Much more common to have screws "back out" just from jarring / vibrations of use . Then they are much weaker and may "fail" or just fall out .

This is why God created loctite and many similar products .

I feel weird to defend CRKT because they are infamous for QC problems . But unless I see a cleanly sheared thumb stub , I'll assume at worst they forgot the loctite .

Part of owning anything with fasteners exposed to vibration / use is to check and tighten (with loctite added) as necessary .
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Most common case to "fail" of a screw is when the screw was tighten too much, but as You noticed: without evidence it's only a guess.

I think about my Spyderco Resilence (bought in 2012), with no lose screws... not even one. How is this possible?
 
countertac said:
Hello.
Last year I've bought CRKT M16-14SF, which was, in my opinion a "flagship" of this manufacturer.
I gave it to my brother, as a gift.
He used it very gently as ocasionally cary (I can say, by the look - theres almost no mark of use on the blade, or handle), totaly not abusing the knife.
And after ONE year of opening the knife, the thumb stud broke! Yes, You read it correctly, the thumb stud, or blocking pin, just wanished!

And this is for military personel? It's a joke.

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I would not classify any crkt folder as a rough use knife at all but that shouldn’t happen.
Every now and then something gets by that shouldn’t have.
In my opinion crkt have recently improved somewhat. Materials a little bit better than they had been. Still… I would expect it to open and close without shearing off a stud.
 
Like many others, the lock on my M16 failed. Mine got stuck in a piece of wood, nearly closed on my hand while wiggling it loose. Wouldn't lock at all after that. The lockbar was rubbing the opposite scale to the point it was past the blade, into the gap between the blade and scale. Utter garbage. Haven't purchased a CRKT since. And that was 15 years ago.

Good customer service is fine and dandy, but I'd rather have a well made product and average CS than the opposite.

As mqqn mqqn once said "If you make it right, you won't have to 'make it right.'"
 
Greg Haddock said:
I would expect it to open and close without shearing off a stud.
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That's a little overdramatic.

The OP says it has been used for a year. I don't see signs of anything "shearing off". The thumbstud simply came unscrewed. Life will go on.....

(Disclaimer - Hey CRKT, don't think for a second I am defending you or your knives in any way, shape or form. I most certainly am not.)
 
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Quite a few years ago, I bought an M21-something because I thought it was a cool knife. I soon grew to hate it. A junkie relative stole it, along with a Benchmade, and pawned them for drug money. I would still like to get the Benchmade back.

More recently, I bought a car in South Dakota. The seller left behind some flavor of M16, a really stupid one with a tanto blade. Putting it bluntly, it’s crap. I let it ride on the center hump. Frequently, it slips off the hump into the floor well where it sloshes around in the salty slush my boots drag in. No ptoblem.

Seriously, ditch that knife.
 
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CRKT has always been a hit or miss company, with lots of internet hearsay hate. The new Butte is a beast. I checked the M16 i have (Deadbolt edition, another tank of a knife), and the thumbstuds were loose. Unscrewed and loctited, no more issues. The Deadbolt doesn't use them as a stop pin, but the studs should be threadlocked during assembly.
 
For similar price, same country of origin, and better steel/heat treatment, get a Civivi. Your mind will be blown by the difference in quality
 
Sorry you had a bad experience with a knife. As others have said, I don't own a CRKT and I don't recommend CRKT to anyone unless I don't like them.

I have no experience with CRKT customer service but hopefully they can help.

If you'd like a different knife, give us a budget, some general specs (ie. ideal blade length), etc and we'd be happy to recommend some knives.
 
Clickbait title or not, CRKT is overpriced junk. Yeah, defenders say "look at how many cool designs they have" or "look at how innovative they are". Well, it's hard to care about those things when they continue to use increasingly obsolete materials with questionable build quality or QC for the asking price.

C countertac , the recommendations to step up to a Spyderco aren't a bad idea if you like their style. You might also want to check out Hogue for some nicer production knives with a tactical aesthetic.

If you are interested in higher quality budget knives with much better steel, check out Civivi or Kizer. For some good budget knives that get very competitive on price, check out Sencut, Petrified Fish, or Harnds. These brands demonstrate how far ahead the goal posts have been moved for Chinese manufacturing and how far behind CRKT has fallen.
 
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