CRKT M16 totally failed!

Status
Not open for further replies.
Back in 2004, our son brought a CRKT M21 (the larger version with a plain edge) to Iraq for a year. Worked for him until he lost it on another deployment.
 
Yo Mama said:
I purposely pull thumb studs off when possible!
Click to expand...
How about blade stops?

Cuz that is what this "thumb stud" actually is. Not picking on you specifically, but all the folks telling the OP to suck it up and that this isn't a total failure need to think about that. Most modern folders have a blade stop, imagine if that came off on your spyderco, cold steel, ZT, etc....

I think that actually is a total failure, not just a thumb stud falling off. Not sure the knife is safe to use at this point.
 
craytab said:
actually is a total failure
Click to expand...
I agree with non-functional , but should be an easy fix .

But it's not a CRKT "total failure" , IMO , unless the stop actually sheared off while being properly tightened down .
 
Every time I see one of these MK16s, I'm always mildly annoyed because I am yet again left imagining how good these would be if they were made by an actual quality maker out of actually good materials instead of by CRKT, made by one of their cheap contracted labor shops outta pot metal.

The most "Military" thing about these knives is that they're sold at virtually every Base and Post Exchange, because they're cheap. Yes, I know Mr. Carson is a retired Army veteran. Still: cheap knife. Wish they were better.
 
The best is when crkt put out the xoc, in cts-hxp steel!

No, that's not a typo. They literally sold a $750 knife with the blade steel incorrectly labeled on the blade.

I have to say I liked the Caligo I had, gifted it to a student who didn't want to take his benchmades to work (can't blame him). He likes it and is still using it. Won't buy another one though, not worth the price imo.
 
3fifty7 said:
The thumb stud is missing, that’s far from “totally failed”. Now it does suck because that knife has seen very little use.
It’s also pretty far from being “for military personnel”.

My M16-14SFG had a lock failure after a year to a year and a half of moderate to hard use. It was an ok knife up until that point. Biggest upside we’re the VEFF serrations.
Click to expand...
I think this guy is just trolling. 👀
 
Almost seems like the respondents were a lot more distressed than the OP. What a great opportunity to bash the crap out of CRKT! Love the hyperbole, too.

I do agree that it looks like the thumb stud just fell off. I wouldn't give props to CRKT (based on my ownership of a few bought on the designs) as being a "hard use" knife, but they have their place. That particular knife looks like it hasn't been used or carried more than on a casual basis. It is entirely possible (although no fun) that the owner of the knife and OP here that started the thread didn't realize this wasn't a real failure, just a minor annoyance. After all,

But if the missing stud is the stop pin as mentioned by jbmonkey jbmonkey and craytab craytab , the knife probably isn't safe to use. So what would you call the situation and/or condition of a knife that had one of the most important components that was an integral part of the knife fall off?

Continue topping one another's description of CRKT hate here:
 
I have a pre lawks m16 and it's a good knife.

After this lawks system came around I didn't like them anymore.
A safety for a lock on a knife is garbage.
 
Skar said:
I have a pre lawks m16 and it's a good knife.

After this lawks system came around I didn't like them anymore.
A safety for a lock on a knife is garbage.
Click to expand...
have a few of both as well...even a couple american assembled ones...from the early days of it. they arent too bad. I like the design, just wish we could get higher quality version made.......
 
Ladies and gentlemen, you get what you pay for. If you spend $35-$40 on a knife and expect military-grade robustness? You bought into the marketing hype. Quality comes at a cost. CRKT knives are often times “use it and toss it” knives. Why would anyone pay the cost of shipping to send in a used $35 knife? Pony up for a $150 knife or roll the dice.
 
What K killgar said. Thumbstud cannot break, it can go un-screwed and it will be fairly noticeable when opening the knife,
so someone didn't pay much attention when using it IMO.
 
Paratrooper06 said:
Ladies and gentlemen, you get what you pay for. If you spend $35-$40 on a knife and expect military-grade robustness? You bought into the marketing hype. Quality comes at a cost. CRKT knives are often times “use it and toss it” knives. Why would anyone pay the cost of shipping to send in a used $35 knife? Pony up for a $150 knife or roll the dice.
Click to expand...
Well, the knife was 113$, so I don't think I got what I've paid.
The source:
www.crkt.com

M16® - 14SF

The Special Forces G10 models share a unique design offering a combination of Carson M16 Series features requested by military procurement specialists. The dual grind Tanto blades were specified because they offer maximum strength. The open build allows two Carson Flippers to be incorporated...
www.crkt.com www.crkt.com
 
countertac said:
Well, the knife was 113$, so I don't think I got what I've paid.
The source:
www.crkt.com

M16® - 14SF

The Special Forces G10 models share a unique design offering a combination of Carson M16 Series features requested by military procurement specialists. The dual grind Tanto blades were specified because they offer maximum strength. The open build allows two Carson Flippers to be incorporated...
www.crkt.com www.crkt.com
Click to expand...
Well, paying $113 for a CRKT was your first mistake.
 
Quiet said:
Every time I see one of these MK16s, I'm always mildly annoyed because I am yet again left imagining how good these would be if they were made by an actual quality maker out of actually good materials instead of by CRKT, made by one of their cheap contracted labor shops outta pot metal.

The most "Military" thing about these knives is that they're sold at virtually every Base and Post Exchange, because they're cheap. Yes, I know Mr. Carson is a retired Army veteran. Still: cheap knife. Wish they were better.
Click to expand...
Folks act like it's impossible for a vet to sell cheap gear to other members of the military, like, the guy served, so no way could his morals be compromised by anything ever. If they served, they MUST be trying to bring our boys only the highest quality of materials, right?
 
countertac said:
And how did You know this? Why "thumbstud cannot break"? Is it enchanted, or what?
Click to expand...
Please don't be cocky... If you've being using knives with thumb studs, you'd know why. They are either pinned, or screwed.
In both cases you only apply pressure with your ...thumb. It's not enough to break it, period.
Given in this model, the thumb stud acts as a stop pin, it's possible (not saying this is necessary the case) your user to abused the knife and hit it hard
when opening it (as when wrist-whipping when opening), causing damage to the pin. It would be his mistake, not knife's flaw and also the pin/stud will gradually start wobbling before it breaks,
so again - your user, most likely didn't pay attention on it.
For over 45 years of using folding knives, I never seen a blade with broken thumb stud. I bet you can't find anyone that seen one too.
I've seen few loosed ones and I broke few when trying to disassemble it and trust me it was hard to do it, but broken from normal use - never...
Buy a new thumbstud and get over it.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top