Crosscut Saw Thread

[Miller '72]

I did make it back today to visit the gentleman that had the saws...I couldn't help myself.
When I arrived he had two identicle saws out for me to look at. This one pictured I came home with, the other being far more rusted and pitted I passed on.
He has a shop out back, he says he has a few more out there as decorations, wall hangers (I can only imagine they may be in good condition and probably prizes) but we didn't take the walk...I was not invited back to the inner sanctum, yet.

 

[Agent_H]

Miller,

Handle hardware will sing black and old with some hand scrubbing and oil.

The lines on the handles are pretty neat as well. The far one says a lot.
Good choice between the two you think?

 

[Agent_H]

*Around here the handle hardware is harder to find than decent/more intact blades.

 

[Miller '72]

Miller,

Handle hardware will sing black and old with some hand scrubbing and oil.

The lines on the handles are pretty neat as well. The far one says a lot.
Good choice between the two you think?

*Around here the handle hardware is harder to find than decent/more intact blades.

Hi AgentH
Of the two the deciding factor was the rust and the heavy rust and pitting on the teeth. Both saws 5' with the Champion Tooth pattern. The other was more heavily rusted, pitted and because I want to make a go of learning how to bring the saws back to use, I had to stop myself though I wanted both.
The handles and hardware on the other saw are identicle, but the handles we're telling a better story.
Both saws he kept hanging from his rafters, blades straight to the eye with complete handles and all their teeth.
It's ok, I will probably go back for it

 

[Agent_H]

“I’ll go back for it” is the best dilemma to be in.

 

[Agent_H]

Because you can't like something "twice":

Here's the vide portion of that earlier pic. You can see the crossed kerf on the exposed end. The undercut was made to prevent slabbing and not used as the release cut, which was done from the top. I also made a small undercut when I singled bucked the hanging piece, and you can see the lower kerf close and the log sag just a little before it snaps off.

Thank you. You can hear the saw tighten.

 

[Miller '72]

*Around here the handle hardware is harder to find than decent/more intact blades.

Double post...

Speaking of handle hardware I have noticed that as well around here.
I salvaged this handle hardware from a house fire damaged 6' Disston Champion Tooth two man.
The saw was my dad's I had just given to him the year before my childhood home was lost to fire by lightning strike(2001).
30,000 gallons of water later, ash and rubble.
I still have the warped, singed blade scarred from the intense heat, so obviously damaged it's a shame. We never found the second handles hardware.

It's no Finlandia but who doesn't love the call of the rare smoking loon

 

[phantomknives]

I did make it back today to visit the gentleman that had the saws...I couldn't help myself.
When I arrived he had two identicle saws out for me to look at. This one pictured I came home with, the other being far more rusted and pitted I passed on.
He has a shop out back, he says he has a few more out there as decorations, wall hangers (I can only imagine they may be in good condition and probably prizes) but we didn't take the walk...I was not invited back to the inner sanctum, yet.

hard to find a good handle for cheap nowdays. i'v managed 2 working handles out of 4 old ones. one needs a minor repair the other, im making completely new hardware for. had to cut the rod because the wingnut was rusted on, i tried soaking, torching and hammering, all i got was the spacers (which i lost) and the wood.

 

[Agent_H]

Dark as what you're drinking.

I have assorted handles but matching sets on an intact saw are great.

 

[Miller '72]

hard to find a good handle for cheap nowdays. i'v managed 2 working handles out of 4 old ones. one needs a minor repair the other, im making completely new hardware for. had to cut the rod because the wingnut was rusted on, i tried soaking, torching and hammering, all i got was the spacers (which i lost) and the wood.

Dark as what you're drinking.

I have assorted handles but matching sets on an intact saw are great.

After hearing you guys, I am regretting passing today on the twin saw that also has it's complete handles and hardware.

Looks like another road trip later this week or more likely early next week.
Wonder if I will get invited into the castle of solitude next time LOL!
I may need to be nicer too I guess

 

[Agent_H]

it's a trade off when buying a saw for the handles - Sometimes.
Depends on under-appreciated time and practice.*

*Appreciation.

 

[300Six]

That looks nice.
A little off topic, but I know of a guy that uses those old hubcaps to soak his axe heads in motor oil. He has a preference I think between Ford and Chevy I just can't remember which. Can't make this stuff up...

Hey! 70s and 80s Ford F and E series aluminum 'dog bowls' (that's what FoMoCo refers to them as) are wonderful. Many versions of other maker's 'hub' caps don't sit flat enough. Vintage Chevys have too many embosses on them. But it's not so easy to get hold of caps at all anymore with the overwhelming number of alloy rims and/or plastic wheel covers that dominate the scene.
...And what's wrong with used motor oil? Cheap and convenient way to reverse shrinkage in eyes of heads or shovel sockets every spring and fall.

 

[garry3]

Hey! 70s and 80s Ford F and E series aluminum 'dog bowls' (that's what FoMoCo refers to them as) are wonderful. Many versions of other maker's 'hub' caps don't sit flat enough. Vintage Chevys have too many embosses on them. But it's not so easy to get hold of caps at all anymore with the overwhelming number of alloy rims and/or plastic wheel covers that dominate the scene.
...And what's wrong with used motor oil? Cheap and convenient way to reverse shrinkage in eyes of heads or shovel sockets every spring and fall.

Ohhhh, that was you.....
I will keep an eye out for them Ford caps.

 

[Miller '72]

I should be taking delivery of a Simonds 342 saw tool and spider next week. I bit the bullet, popped the lid off the jar
I hope to collect the materials needed to build a saw vise like or similar to trailtimes here.

Thanks trailtime

If he does not I have 33 screen shots from the video that I could put on flickr if that would help.

Sample:

Bob

Thank you Bob for the screenshots. I think that's how I was able to view trailtimes vise.

 

[trailtime]

That old slideshow's got a lot of miles on it. If you have any particular questions on saw filing, just shoot me a PM.

 

[Miller '72]

That old slideshow's got a lot of miles on it. If you have any particular questions on saw filing, just shoot me a PM.

Thanks very much. I have a lot to learn and appreciate your offer. I anticipate I will have a few questions to help me fill in the blanks.

 

[Miller '72]

It's an old and weathered bench I had in the basement of our previous house.
I had to rearrange a few things and shift a few more to new homes...but my wife doesn't come in nor notice to much going on in here
I aim to use it for the bench mounted saw vise I plan to build, hopefully it turns out similar to Trailtimes vise

The saw tool may be here Wednesday

 

[phantomknives]

closest thing i got to a bench is a porch railing. works good enough. a thing about those bench size saw vices, its a bit annoying to have to move the saw after every 5-6" of teeth

 

[Miller '72]

closest thing i got to a bench is a porch railing. works good enough. a thing about those bench size saw vices, its a bit annoying to have to move the saw after every 5-6" of teeth

I am far from a carpenter but this is the design that inspires and motivates me, built by Trailtime.

Building one similar that functions properly is the goal.
Whatever I build, it will look rough as in very unrefined Not nearly as pleasing to the eye or professional looking.

Maybe build a work bench on the porch...I like the idea of being able to work right outdoors like that. Natural light, fresh air.
You just gave me a great idea that involves our side porch, a full standing saw vise, and my wife not allowing one bit of it

 

[trailtime]

Just for an update, the one in my slideshow was my first attempt at a bench-mounted vise. My newer one uses threaded bolts and T-nuts for the swivel and I put cam locks on the grips.