I sincerely was joking...their kitchen knives aren't too bad, but aren't too good either, when you consider how much $$ you spend...for the same price, you can have a set of Wusthof or Henckels you can practically plan on passing to your children if cared for properly...as for the hunting knife, all I know is the handle is really nice...unfortunately, it takes a lot more than that to make a good knife.