Deer Season Update.....Elmax Steak Knife Review

Dude...nice buck..I'm still trying to wrap my head around having a blade that will skin 12 deer and still shave..staggers my little noggin', but then again it doesn't take much :). I have never been able to have a knife make it past 2 or 3 and still shave without a little help, but it's probably my poor sharpening skills..rest assured though, once I get that little bad boy, and if the Lord gives me a deer, I'll let you know how it goes..:thumbup:
On a side note, we are due to slaughter about 7 black angus from our farm in December..you'd never guess which knife will be in my hand, Lord willing, whooohahhaha!!!..

My uncle is going to flip!! Just 2 days ago we did 4, and he has some nice Victorinox skinners; we were all so impressed that the 3-4 primary knives we used only had to be steeled, and I mean repeatedly steeled, beginning after the 2nd steer; by the time we finished the 5th (did one a few days before the last 4)..the steel was barely able to keep us working efficiently...his new favorite 2 words may be Busse Elmax...so excited..let me know if ok to post my experiences to this thread, or if you would prefer I do it on a separate one, as was considering W&S so my buddies down there could get a peek too...peace

Btw, we hang our deer, and cattle for that matter head down in WV too (or at least all I have ever seen) :)
Blood flows better before all the work starts.
 
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Great tale and Pics Garth.

Our Downunder Razorbacks weekend showed Elmax to be very impressive also!

Thanks for posting!

Lawrie
 
The horror of Elmax being subjected to that evil vegemite is more than I want to think about. That is some wicked stuff.

Garth
 
The horror of Elmax being subjected to that evil vegemite is more than I want to think about. That is some wicked stuff.

Garth

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Yeah I can still taste it. Cant imagine why anyone would eat that short of by force in some cruel form of torture.

Garth
 
Great thread and first-hand review on the Elmax blades, Garth. Thanks very much for this. :thumbup:

...THe tenderloins get missed this way

We've also done deer that way for many years, without removing entrails, and it's a much cleaner/faster job to harvest the meat this way. I've learned to go in along the spine behind the last rib with a small knife and take the tenderloins out blind, just by feel. Seems a little weird the first couple of times you do it, but for some it may be worth it to get to the most tender morsels on the animal. Love to slice 'em up and fry 'em with eggs for breakfast.

Another thing we've learned is to tie off the other end of the "hanging" rope to the bumper of a vehicle and have someone behind the wheel to quickly raise and lower the carcass for positioning, which makes the job go much faster and lets you stand comfortably upright the whole time--saves your back and knees. Didn't seem to matter to me in my 20's and 30's, but in my 40's, 50's and 60's it's been a welcome relief!
 
Another great Blade show memory immortalized by the internet.

For those of you who have been lucky enough to have never had that vile stuff in your mouth, yes it is THAT bad.

Garth
 
Hi All!
Got a chance to work the Steak Knife today assisting on three deer, and some hog (no pun intended ;)) in our family meat shop..not nearly as extensive as Garth's usage, but a good initial test run for me, as just got the knife yesterday. WHAHOO!! We have 5 steer to do on Fri & Sat, so the workout is just starting :)..

Before I get into the detail on how it performed today, have to give you some background..
Considering how Garth covered how this blade rocks from the skinning perspective...this covers first experiences on the processing side of things (once the deer are gutted/skinned).
Please note the Steak Knife was not the only one used in our work today, so I'm not saying it did it all..(there were 3 of us cutting all the time), but it did cut on everything it could :D.
Before we got started, I made it a point to talk about how a knife of the same model had skinned 12 deer and still shaved..My Uncle (Owner/primary butcher) said.."Well, this isn't Missouri, but you still gotta' show me." then he chuckled :D..

Uncle T has every right to be skeptical..he's been harvesting beef from our farm, and assisting neighboring farms with spare time every year since he was old enough to contribute...well over 40 years, is serious about his blades, and is quite an expert (as most are who do this kind of work regularly) on how a blade should perform; I respect no one more personally, or with regard to an objective perspective in blade performance in this environment of testing.

The processing goes basically from cutting all we can off the hanging deer, and then proceeding to the plastic cutting boards until the next phases.
In addition to the deer, we also had some half frozen hog (no offense meant :p) that I asked my cousin to cut up for the summer sausage mix.


The last deer we had was a small one my neighbor took..since so small, I made some some intentional close cuts that I would not normally do in a few places to see if it would degrade the edge, considering there was not even half as much to work on as the other two deer.


Here's a pic of most of the hamburger processed from the first 2 deer:
(There was at least this much which was cubed for canning, not pictured)


Other than the backstraps, and filets not pictured, I'm really excited to see how the summer sausage turns out after we smoke it tomorrow!! (also just first 2 deer):


After we finished up, the Steak Knife still shaved as cleanly as when I got it out of the tactical cardboard sheath, along the ENTIRE edge..
NO rolls, NO dings, NO visible edge deterioration whatsoever...dude...dude...........dude...never seen anything like it.
Here's a pic (intentionally flashed) of the edge:


After he methodically checked out the edge, Uncle T looked at me with the grin I was hoping for, and said.."I didn't play around with that knife; I made some intentional cuts into the ham bones...how do I get one?"

He texted me a minute ago and said "You could put it this way, I don't usually consider working my collector knives on a regular basis, but may have to reconsider."
I was glad to reply.. "With their warranty, it's the collector that you can. :)"

Uncle Tom..soon to be first time Busse owner, and one awesome Steak Knife :thumbup: ;):


P.S...there was still the sound of a steel being used periodically throughout our time of processing..but it was not on the Busse Steak Knife..it has, so far, received no touch ups..and the fun is just starting..
 
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Garth, you guys should have timed this to coincide with a ganzaa--with testimonials like this I bet Jerry could sell a boatload of Elmax right about now. ;)
 
So how is the steak knife different from the. Scrapyard 340? I have a 340 with a factory edge that would shave when new. I cleaned 1 deer and it dulled quickly. Is the HT different on the steak knives ? RC higher? I believe the grinds are the same. Curious as I like Elmax and will consider picking up the steak knife if I could see some comparisons in size to a CABS or similar model as well as figure out the HT question.
 
RWT, good question...interested in hearing the answer on that.
Do you think there may have been a possible wire edge on your 340 before you worked on your deer?
I've not used a 340, or a scrapyard for that matter on skinning, so I have no perspective on it.
I have had MANY like situations using other blades of multiple steel types; Only ONCE of all my years of hunting have I ever sharpened a knife to where it would handle 2 and still shave (but gave out before the 3rd was completed), but in reality that has been a record for me, and boy, was I being careful to not touch any bone, even was careful to not cut on the hair more than necessary!! Most blades I have used in the past never shaved after the first deer..close...but no shave, and in retrospect, I'm pretty confident it was due to my sharpening...sad to admit, but after messing around with knives all this time, my ability to fully remove the wire edge has made me doubt a lot of knives resilience/edge holding..when it was all yours truly that was the problem..:barf: Happy Thanksgiving!!!!
 
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So how is the steak knife different from the. Scrapyard 340? I have a 340 with a factory edge that would shave when new. I cleaned 1 deer and it dulled quickly. Is the HT different on the steak knives ? RC higher? I believe the grinds are the same. Curious as I like Elmax and will consider picking up the steak knife if I could see some comparisons in size to a CABS or similar model as well as figure out the HT question.
I have a 460 and it has phenomenal edge retention. Did you perhaps try using it to get through bone?
 
At first we followed Bohler's Heat Treat specs to the letter. Then we started experimenting with our own heat treat protocol on Elmax and believe that we have stumbled upon the perfect formula...... some might say it was stumbled upon by accident.....I prefer to say that an inebriated mind is a creative mind!!!

..... Sometimes it takes a wee bit of scotch to release the inner genius!!! ........ and other times it takes a boatload of scotch before you start stumbling into, onto, and through obstacles......... this discovery involved a boatload of scotch, peanut oil, 2 cheeseburgers, 3 lbs. of bacon, and 10 gallons of cryo in a 5 gallon bucket!!!!:eek: ..... I know that sounds too technical to follow, but it works really, really well ! ! ! :thumbup: :cool:

Let's drink!:thumbup:

Jerry
:D
 
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