Demand more from your knife companies!!!

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There ARE some companies in China, Taiwan, Japan, etc. that are the common source of a lot of Asian-produced models for several companies. However, many of these are produced at totally different quality levels by those exact same companies depending on the specs that the contractor provides, and are priced accordingly. I haven't seen any gouging with those particular models.
 
Only a couple more weeks until all the kiddies are back in school and there will be less threads like this.
 
I own a lot of knives at various price points. From $20 budget models to models costing well over $100. Most of mine fall in the between 100 and 200 dollar range, although I even have one that retails in the $400 range.

I don't feel that I over paid for any of my knives. If I did not think that they were worth what I paid for them, I would not have purchased them.

That being said, I don't think any of them are perfect. EVERY knife I own has a flaw of some sort. I do find however, that the higher in price I go, the better the OVERALL quality of the knife tends to be. They are all acceptable for their intended purpose.

I will say that I expect more from a >$100 knife than I do from budget priced import.

Much like beauty, quality and value, are in the eye of the beholder.
 
blixxx said:
If you pay >$100 for a knife, that knife better be NEAR perfect!!! There are so many examples of GREAT knives <$100, Ka-bar, Mora, SAK.

With the raw materials costing < 20% of what some of these knife companies are charging, their knife better be NEAR perfect!!!

So the Coach purses of the knife world, Sebenza, Microtech etc. you better come correct!!!

Cowboy Up!!!



Edit: Forgot to add I'm talking about production knives not handmade customs.

So in other words...production knives charging handmade custom prices!!!
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I dont own any $100+ knives
I get more than enough for what I use them for out of inexpensive imported gear :)
 
Some of 5hr best knives ive used are smaller companies offering more just to be noticed.

the brand of kitchen knives I use for work are a smaller company but because big names are already populat the smaller ones seek to offer more.
 
Blade-fiend said:
so then what is the cheap brand being made in the CRK factory or the hinderer factory?
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You're paying an extra for the hinderer name no doubt. Don't tell me he has as advanced manufacturing and QC as Chris Reeve Knives because he doesn't. That's a whole different story though.
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
There ARE some companies in China, Taiwan, Japan, etc. that are the common source of a lot of Asian-produced models for several companies. However, many of these are produced at totally different quality levels by those exact same companies depending on the specs that the contractor provides, and are priced accordingly. I haven't seen any gouging with those particular models.
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Why lump japan in there? What cheap knives are made there anymore. The cheapest I can think of is the Spyderco Delica which if you made in the US would probably be cheaper at this point.
 
Kwon Kwang said:
You are a wonderful troll, and I commend you for doing an excellent job at a time when most trolls are simply terrible and easy to spot. Unfortunately, Bladeforums is a serious forum, and as such, does not see the beauty of disorder. Therefore, I shall join my fellow forum-goers and wag my finger at you in a condescending manner, for trolling is not welcome here.
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Pretty lame dude, I am totally offended by your post. I actually thought you were pretty cool and looked at your various other post, in different threads, for knowledge as you were very active in this forum in a short period of time, but now I realize there's only so much Cold Steel plugs I can take.

LX_Emergency said:
you can tell a zealot or a troll by the fact that they think in extremes.
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You coming from the land that produced Alistair Overeem I understand why you don't see the sarcasm in my post of "Hey guys, You're right! All knives are priced reasonably and no knife company is hiking up their prices...what was I thinking?

/thread"

Am I a zealot? Yes a zealot for fair pricing.

Here it is guys. In every market there are companies that charge much more than their product is worth. You can use many factors to judge worth, material, fit & finish, warranty etc., no market is immune to price gouging. We as knife lovers must find these companies and demand more from them. Be smart consumers. That is all I've been saying but for some reason people are getting very offended by this...I understand no one wants to feel they got ripped off.

Instead of getting mad and name calling why not provide me and everyone with information as to why you disagree.
 
blixxx said:
Instead of getting mad and name calling why not provide me and everyone with information as to why you disagree.
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Before I agree/disagree, are you talking about product value, or quality control?

If it is quality control, I'd agree in that I have encountered a few blems in production knives that I had to return and explain why the knife is a blem. Those were the >$100 knives that made me ponder about the company's QC.
 
stabman said:
Still not perfect.
I can find fault with my Umnumzaan.
I can find fault in a $2000 custom.
Bring me what has been lauded by thousands as the greatest, most perfect knife ever, and I'm sure that I'll find something I could nitpick over if I felt like it.

Life is imperfect though.
Machines are imperfect.
Humans are especially imperfect.
So, I have to accept some level of imperfection in the imperfect creations of imperfect beings. :cool:
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'Imperfection! Must sterilize!​
 
bearcut said:
My thoughts exactly......
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Sorry but totally ridiculous thoughts as you don't personally know me, you have no clue what I do for a living, you have no clue of anything I have ever done in my life. So it's a good time for you and your boy to drop the elitist attitude.
 
99cuts said:
Before I agree/disagree, are you talking about product value, or quality control?

If it is quality control, I'd agree in that I have encountered a few blems in production knives that I had to return and explain why the knife is a blem. Those were the >$100 knives that made me ponder about the company's QC.
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can be both
 
blixxx said:
Sorry but totally ridiculous thoughts as you don't personally know me, you have no clue what I do for a living, you have no clue of anything I have ever done in my life. So it's a good time for you and your boy to drop the elitist attitude.
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So, tell us, DO you run a successful business, HAVE you made products yourself? Oh, and were they perfect?

Do tell.....
 
Gentlemen.

Discuss the TOPIC, not each other.

If you continue to discuss one another. Infractions can be issued and/or the thread closed.
 
blixxx said:
can be both
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i see. in my case i just swapped for another knife, since i still appreciated the design, and obviously thought it was good value in the first place. so I'd agree with you that it's kinda like getting a coach purse with bad stitching. I'd also agree with you about SAK, their QC is excellent and altho not perfect, I never thought about returning a SAK I bought as a blem.

as for value, if i don't see it, i just don't buy it. =)
 
bearcut said:
So, tell us, DO you run a successful business, HAVE you made products yourself? Oh, and were they perfect?

Do tell.....
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Yes I have, Yes I have. Near perfect. However it was not in the knife industry, it was in the entertainment industry.

Unlike you, I didn't have an elitist attitude and I valued my customers. This would never be a thought in my head "Ah yes, the unrealistic expectations of customers who have never run a business or made a product themselves..."

Please let me know what your business is so I can be sure never to support it and also let everyone I know not to support it as well.



Sorry KARDA, I was writing this during the time you posted.
 
You should start your own knife company, show these companies how to do it since they arent doing it right. Seriously, the best quality for the least amount of money right? Sounds good, if it can be done: Do it!
 
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