Destruction test on the Battle Mistress

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Gerberblades

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I dont know if any of you hogs have been on knife tests lately, but the guy is going to test the BM after the LMF II. This is going to be good!:)
 
IMHO, he will need to do utterly ridiculous things to that blade to destroy it. He is also going to need a lot of time on his hands.
 
I agree with both of you.I wonder what it will take to chip, and eventually snap the knife. It will definitely be interesting.
 
I dont think it would be that hard, if you hit the edge with a hammer, its not going to be pretty, but if you use it like a knife, its going to be hard.
 
I think if he does the same things to the BM that he has done to test other similar knives to destruction the results with be only slightly different.

I don't think Busse knives are substantially more immune to intentional destruction by a determined person with an arsenal of practices designed to defeat the steel and handle material.

If the test have any validity at all they will say the busse blade failed after 33 3 lb hammer blows on the spine into concrete and the 1095 blade failed in 22.

There for the Busse is 30 percent tougher... Yawn.........:rolleyes:

Personally I would like to see him save up and destroy a Fabergé egg. Now that would be fun to watch. Stick to the idle rich I say!!
 
Keith_H said:
I dont think it would be that hard, if you hit the edge with a hammer, its not going to be pretty, but if you use it like a knife, its going to be hard.
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Hit the spine with a hammer, well I could see that. Why would one ever need to hit the edge with one? Maybe I don't have any imagination, but I just can't think of a scenario in the real world where one would need to do that? Why not just cut it in half with a hack saw then?
 
Destroying a FBM under normal conditions without the use of tools would be pretty darn hard.

However, intentionally trying to destroy one using a 3lb hammer and external leverage is a different story. WhoopieDooo! I really don't see the point :yawn:

We can pretty much set out to destroy anything if given the right tools.
 
it isn't about whether or not it can be destroyed as it is clear that anything can be, but rather how much abuse it can take before it is destroyed. Bring it on....
 
Hopefully he tests it under normal conditions. Like Ban said we can destroy anything if given the right tools, and that proves nothing, but starting off chopping wood and working your way up to chopping cinder blocks to test chip resistance would be fine. I don't see any reason for sticking it in a vice, because there is no way he is going to bend that knife.
 
The only thing a destruction test will tell you is if there is any quality control issues that cause early or premature failure. I have had kives snap on me that should not have broken. The problem is that one test is usually not enough to know. You need a bunch of test to figure out if there is a pattern. Still, hey, if someone wants to destroy their knife that's their problem.

Oh and bending a knife is easy with a pipe or pry bar. But barehanded you're right.
 
I have watched a couple of the clips testing out some popular knives. The tests are obviously not controlled to the point of yielding conclusive data about a particualr knife. Too many uncontrolled variables. For the tests to be valid things need to be exactly the same on all knives otherwise who can say what caused the end result. But I just look at it as some guys having fun with some knives. I can appriciate that. As long as they do not make claims that are not backed by very controlled tests. Otherwise, like Cobalt said, "If someone wants to destroy their knife...." :)
 
To be honest, I just think the guy likes the attention.
 
Tyrkon Lawson said:
Are you suggesting that people that post vids of themselves using their knives are just doing it for the attention? :confused::eek::mad:

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Big difference between posting knives in real world usage, and posting knives being beaten with hammers and snapped in vices. ;) :thumbup:
 
Guyon said:
To be honest, I just think the guy likes the attention.
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Maybe so,

here is the deal.

We all know that companies like ontario knife are so inconsistent it is not even funny. The steel they use is 1095 which can be really good and sometimes it is. When they HT these knives they do it in batch ovens bunches at a time. The knives in the section of the oven that get the ieal heat and time end up being the top performers, the others are either too soft or too hard.

So what you get when you buy one is a tough knife that cannot hold an edge, or a decently tough kife that holds a decent edge or a hard knife that breaks easily. The Center knife is the ideal and it is also the least numerous as the ideal spot in the oven does not cover as many knives as the not so ideal spots.

So then you test a certain blade to destruction. It is on the softer side so it goes forever before it fails. Well you then test another and you get the opposite results and yet another and you get the same results as the first one. But when you try to cut with that one it looses it's edge really fast. Inconsistency. Do you think that the knives made in China aren't going to be the same. Of course they are.

In order for destructive testing to be effective it needs to be done to a representative sample of the same knife and there is no way that is ever going to happen. Luckily with Busse knives there are already many of us abusing these knives way beyond what a knife was meant to do. Do you think that knife throwing is a good thing. It is not a good thing for a REAL knife. Throwing knives are butter soft and have only sharp points. They are designed to stick n the point only and not to hold an edge. A real knife is hard and throwing is never recommended. However, I have thrown an SHBM well over 15,000 times with no failure. I have thrown an FBM into wood and metal panels probably near a 1000 times with no ill effects. I have broken other brands within 300 throws many times. But I do not fault those brands as they were not meant to be thrown at an Rc of 60. INFI gets away with it for some nuclear reason:D
 
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