"Devil's Elbow" my backpacking shotgun project

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I used a felt pad in between the barrel and the aluminum trigger guard. Found an old unmodified butt cuff. paint is good enough now.


The project continues...
 
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I like the bushman socket bayonet.get some full power shotgun blanks and launch that puppy.lol
cool setup tho.
 
Interesting. Without a front grip though, you might find the barrel a little hot after a few shots...
 
thanks. it's far from being done.

I usually support it with the left right near the receiver, elbow tucked in on the ribs going vertical skeleton support right to the receiver. I don't generally hold it out by the barrel. It points very quick. So light. Can hold it out and fire with one hand if ya want- low power loads. I'm going to weave a 550 sling up for it.

It sure does rock you with OO buck though :) I can't believe how much recoil it had with the original barrel length and no recoil pad shooting slugs.... shooting a sub 5 pound gun trying to drive a 1 or so ounce slug at 1600 fps well that's what happens.

Carried much, shot little: Backpacking shotgun. This isn't the "zombie" gun lol. So I'm not really worried about it getting warm running lots of loads through it. Foraging. Plus I have it fitted and I cut down the stock for my body hold it by the receiver.

Going to get tapped for iron sights next week.

Then some other tricks. :)
 
That is pretty neat. Looks like it would be a great backpacking gun to take. Thanks for sharing :thumbup:
 
Could you tell us what this gun is? or what model it "was"? I was thinking about doing this with the interchangable barrel rossi single shots. 12g, .22, or 20g.
 
"doing this"

what do you mean? Paint it? A rossi is going to have to be broken into separate pieces for it to be about 19 inches.

These guns fold. No modification necessary.

"Made in Italy By Pedritti For Kassnar Imports Harrisburg PA.

similar

beretta http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=169724172
yildiz in 410

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2995162

Also, look up Khan survival shotgun imported by century. It has an exposed hammer. Then you could shorten it down to legal 18 inches if ya want.
 
I'm looking forward to seeing those "other tricks" :).

Please post more "in-progress" pic's when you can.
 
I like it!

See, now I have made some wood stocks in diffrent lenghts for my Rossi .410 and I wondered if shooting it with no forend underneath the barrel wouyld be safe. Seems like a really packable surival gun

I even thought of making a forend thats only 4 or 5 inches loing to see how the lightness factor was. Might have to give it a try.

jeff
 
"There is no starting or stopping, only doing."

Post some pics man. It's fine. I'm weaving the sling. That could always be a "handle" for point shooting.

This is a 12 gauge, It's about 4.5 pounds on the bathroom scale. Light enough for me.

The first two tricks are a 20 and 410 insert waiting for me at my uncles house.

The forend split about a year ago.
 
Think a paracord wrap on the barrel would suffice as a hand guard in a pinch. Or employ a shooting stick.
 
True. The 550 wrap on the barrel. The iron sights should just be slightly high enough that the wrap wouldn't interfere with the rifle sights. I could possibly melt onto the barrel if I decided to put a lot of loads through it fast.The sling will also be woven from 550 cord. the 20 and 410 adapters I'll go pattern at the range and see which one I like the best- will allow me to carry lighter shells for small game. 12 gauge slugs for raw power and if necessary breaching- something only the 12 gauge truly does best, well besides the 10 lol. Aint nothing a 12 gauge with slugs can't take at close range within reason in the north american continent.

I'm thinking standard remington shotgun or rifle sights adjustable. The "tricks" won't be anything special, all ya have to do is pick up McCann's book and ya'll see similar thoughts.

KISS but lightweight multipurpose gear is fine to put on a gun.

I really want to treat myself and buy a cricket and lighten it for the pack.

The rossi/ any break barrel rifle or shotgun are good foraging guns. I like this because I don't have to dissemble it at all to fold.

I really don't know why this design isn't more popular. It allows a very simple, and easily packable rifle or shotgun while being completely LEGAL because it can't fire when folded.

Something like this in 22 (or any other rifle cartridge with a 16inch barrel) that folds to 16 with the 16 barrel would be great. I can't imagine a reason for it to be expensive it would just be like a HR pretty much in manufacturing costs. Ok start up cost and all... Could be VERY light weight if they built rimfire barrels on a rimfire frame. Barrels in different cartridges could interchange. While being COMPLETELY LEGAL just because of the design the gun can 't shoot when folded.

Heck the DE can almost fit in the shoulder bag. I could take one more inch of the barrel but it's good enough for me right now.

But a rifle cartridge based one, with receiver treated to rifle pressure- with the 16 inch length would fit in the shoulder laptop bag.

Ahhh walking around with a 30-30 folder in your shoulder bag, not alarming anyone on the trail... :)

Ed Harris had I can't remember his name fabricate some barrels for his berreta folder. One was in 45 acp if I remember. and other calibers. Once you have the frame, there's no telling what you can do within frame pressures if you search hard enough and want to pursue something.
 
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J williams- the paint. I searched town for clear flat laquer- that's what you really want. Lot's of guys use it to coat there camo rifles. Couldn't find any, so I coated it with what ya see in the picture. Maybe ya can get the good stuff over the internet. Don't know. Seems to be pretty tough. I did three coats of each black for the metal and od green for the stock. and then three coats of the ultra cover. I felt I held the can too close when applying the ultra cover, so I put one coat of normal black on the metal. Either way it's pretty quick to touch up. The idea was to make this thing as low maintenance as possible while still being more inexpensive.
 
That is nice and a very functional firearm! I took my H&R single shot .20 gauge out to the range recently. I swapped the wood (actually a very nice grain) for the "survivor" stock. It was fine with bird shot and even buck, but man those slugs down right hurt on that smaller stock:eek: Keep us updated on how it turns out...:thumbup:

ROCK6
 
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