Discovery Channel has fired Cody Lundin

amflud, thanks. i thought it was some of the sog kikus. will check them out. are they any good?
 
I know with editing you can create something that is out of context, but on the last episode with Cody "behind the scenes" he looked like a jack off. Again, I know what is portrayed on t.v. is what the producers want us to see, but he has a vibe about him that is very off putting
 
M.FREEZE said:
I know with editing you can create something that is out of context, but on the last episode with Cody "behind the scenes" he looked like a jack off. Again, I know what is portrayed on t.v. is what the producers want us to see, but he has a vibe about him that is very off putting
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Yeah I'm pretty sure that was all editing, with a combination of "interviews" that put him in a negative light. It was pretty clear to me just by body language and tone of voice, that Cody didn't respect Joe. He thought he had no skills and fed into the drama and TV aspect rather than the teaching.

Rewatching old episodes you see Dave handle poisonous snakes with ease and respect, hunt deadly animals and kill them with respect and humanity. One of the behind he scenes thing they showed was Joe killing a rattlesnake, while Cody laughed, and the producers "had no idea why he was laughing". I think it was pretty obvious Cody was laughing at the guy struggling to dispatch a snake that wasn't bothering anyone.
 
M.FREEZE said:
I know with editing you can create something that is out of context, but on the last episode with Cody "behind the scenes" he looked like a jack off. Again, I know what is portrayed on t.v. is what the producers want us to see, but he has a vibe about him that is very off putting
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Could be we saw the real Cody for the first time, The part ware Joe is trying to catch the snake and cody went off on a laughing jag made him look like he might be a couple of Fries short of a Happy Meal.
 
^^^ Its something we would never know. I just can't see Joe never making any jokes about someone or rolling his eyes at Cody. It just came out so one sided that it makes me wonder about the other side of the coin. It could also be that Joe is really a nice guy with a penchant of over dramatizing everything. Even when he killed that snake he had to make those knife twists in the air after. I guess we would see how it turns out with Matt, I missed that episode so would be looking for it when it airs again. Joe is as military as they come with Cody being as hippie as they ever were. We might also mention about the drama Joe injects into everything. I don't think Joe is a bad guy in a way he seems to be a nice guy but very opinionated how things should be done. I also don't think Cody at any point had Joe put his life on the line with all the back up to a back up with the crew being around there. They way Joe made it look like in the snow. It came across more that Cody got tired how everyone talking about how he dresses.
It could be that the crew tried to inject as much drama in the show as they could to make it sale till the drama became real. How many times can you tell someone to put shoes on and they explain to you they are fine as they are. Then they go ahead and prove to you that they are fine.
 
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sasha said:
^^^ Its something we would never know. I just can't see Joe never making any jokes about someone or rolling his eyes at Cody. It just came out so one sided that it makes me wonder about the other side of the coin. It could also be that Joe is really a nice guy with a penchant of over dramatizing everything. Even when he killed that snake he had to make those knife twists in the air after. I guess we would see how it turns out with Matt, I missed that episode so would be looking for it when it airs again. Joe is as military as they come with Cody being as hippie as they ever were.
It could be that the crew tried to inject as much drama in the show as they could to make it sale till the drama became real. How many times can you tell someone to put shoes on and they explain to you they are fine as they are. Then they go ahead and prove to you that they are fine.
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I agree for the most part with what you say, but Joe Is right about the shoes. Cody puts the team at risk by going bare foot. especialy in snow country. If he showed up around here in shorts and bare foot during the winter Ican guarentee you it would not be long befor they hauled him off for a stay at the local funny farm.
 
MIKE MACINTOSH said:
Could be we saw the real Cody for the first time, The part ware Joe is trying to catch the snake and cody went off on a laughing jag made him look like he might be a couple of Fries short of a Happy Meal.
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Looked more like he was laughing at how hard it was for Joe to pin the snakes head down, considering his former parter used to pick up even deadlier snakes with his hands just to show them to the camera. Hell he picked up a gator with his hands to kill it and eat it. Just looked like Cody thought it was pretty funny how hard of a time the guy was having and how jumpy he was about doing it, considering the snake was only trying to get away.
 
I may be one of the only people here who has camped with Cody. It was 20 years ago when I was 14, on a week long trip, I'm in AZ and Cody was our guide. While other kids were laughing at his barefoot hippie persona, I gravitated to him. He showed me a few things I still use today. He was kind, and always wanting to teach.

I was blown away when I saw years later he had a show. I loved the show, until Dave Canterbury's departure. I liked him, and felt cheated with his lying about what service he did. Cody was the only reason to keep watching the show. I have no desire to watch the new show. I wish Cody the best of luck.
 
MIKE MACINTOSH said:
I agree for the most part with what you say, but Joe Is right about the shoes. Cody puts the team at risk by going bare foot. especialy in snow country. If he showed up around here in shorts and bare foot during the winter Ican guarentee you it would not be long befor they hauled him off for a stay at the local funny farm.
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Eh....It's all scripted and the no shoe thing conflict was the show's bread and butter. It's not like the guy took off his shoes for Discovery's sake. As for the team being at risk one must speculate what is the nature of that risk? A known quantity playing out in a scripted scene?
 
DOC-CANADA said:
The closest I've seen to this is I, Caveman.
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There's a TV show propelled by Grylls running on Channel 4 here now that's pretty good. I posted up a link to The Island when they were holding the auditions for it, [and I gather they are will be holding auditions for a second series very soon]. If you can get a proxy tap into it I totally recommend a look. Nay, screw that, just download the lot.

This isn't a series for most people here, that's why I didn't follow up before. There aren't any knife[ish] shaped survival objects that sell for more than many undergrads spend on their first car, or dodgy survival instructors that are FOS, and the closest I've heard to the mention of the hideous and mostly misused term “bushcraft” was in episode one in which some guy was exalting his preference for women with an old 80's style heavily thatched geneva. Nope, none of that silliness. The subtext of this program is along the lines of “can modern Englishmen hack it”, and it takes a bunch of virtually clueless men and strands them on a island for a month.

Before the off they got a short amount of training, mebe a day. They know enough to boil water and to harden the end of a pokey stick in a fire, that sort of thing. Any half decent boy scout should know way more before they get to big school. These guys are a mix of camp Gollumy looking hairdresser, muppets that work in some sort of cubicle, an IT trainer, that sort of thing. One of them came medically trained, and three of them got some crash training in the use of the cameras. That's a key bit. They film it themselves.

So far it has been great viewing. To paraphrase Ranulph Fiennes when he was talking about holding team selection for his expeditions; “It's not about gear or what they know, we can teach them that, it's about character, and you either have that or you don't”. And that's what shows up so viciously here.

Sure they've been given a couple of medium / low end Grylls knives and parangs to use, but some of these guys are making them work. Guy has the wit to tie one to a stick to get nuts from a tree without having to shinny up it. And the camen didn't care about who made the one that went through its hind brain. On the flipside we have liability bloke; don't know if some nurk told him about Indians hunting rabbits by throwing sticks at them [or making death stars from two sharpened sticks tied together] or something, or whether its just because he is a prat, but here is is, all weedy and ineffectual, burning up is calories chasing pelicans to no avail. He punches sand in frustration and gives himself a boxer's impact fracture. Goon! Possibly as an over reaction to the uselessness and apathy of the lard-arse members of the group even the stronger contenders are making bad decisions. The camen they made such a big drama of catching in broad daylight, because of ooh the danger, they are trying to hunt and night in a mangrove swamp with water to mid thigh. There is no clear plan as to what to do if they ever did stumble across one. Plus we have the mundane learning stuff like “be bothered to check your traps or your catch will spoil”. They learn the hungry way. Still, they are getting better. After days and days on snails one of them has the genius to go look for roots. Yay, potatoes.

Mmmm, it is by far the most interesting real survival type simulation TV shows I've seen in years. It relegates all this Discovery Channel stuff with its clown presenters, suspect camera work, props, and comic book wrestler-style loud goofiness to the idiot cartoon status it so heartily deserves. Day one, they cant make fire, they don't make shelter, they lounge about talking crap whilst their gear is strewn about haphazardly. They roam barefoot and wonder why they hurt themselves. Typical asshat stuff. As my partner said quite rightly, no group of women would put up with that. They'd have a roof up, the camp would be organized, and the kettle would be on. And all that without one of them being on overly directive subtard.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-island-with-bear-grylls
 
Yo Mama said:
I may be one of the only people here who has camped with Cody. It was 20 years ago when I was 14, on a week long trip, I'm in AZ and Cody was our guide. While other kids were laughing at his barefoot hippie persona, I gravitated to him. He showed me a few things I still use today. He was kind, and always wanting to teach.

I was blown away when I saw years later he had a show. I loved the show, until Dave Canterbury's departure. I liked him, and felt cheated with his lying about what service he did. Cody was the only reason to keep watching the show. I have no desire to watch the new show. I wish Cody the best of luck.
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Interesting. All the other opinions are based on the dramatic editing of a very fake show. You actually spending time in the woods with him and having good things to say, means much more. For the record, I have learned a lot from Dave's online videos, I find Cody entertaining and plan on reading his book, but Joe just angers me and I can't watch or listen to him. Yes some knuckleheads join the military too and some even slip through the cracks and get on SF groups. I bet his more squared away brothers are embarest by him.
 
MIKE MACINTOSH said:
Could be we saw the real Cody for the first time, The part ware Joe is trying to catch the snake and cody went off on a laughing jag made him look like he might be a couple of Fries short of a Happy Meal.
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Why don't we see some of the out takes or "behind the scenes" of Joe too?

Theres got to be hundreds of hours of unused footage, in all that I'm sure theres plenty of negative footage from both sides.
 
When I get back from the pub I may have to check out some of season two . I can already tell this GI joe guy isn't gonna be interesting though.
 
jaymeister99 said:
Why don't we see some of the out takes or "behind the scenes" of Joe too?

Theres got to be hundreds of hours of unused footage, in all that I'm sure theres plenty of negative footage from both sides.
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Because Joe is still dancing to their tune, following their script.
 
I have been watching that show from the beggining. I liked Cody and Dave better than Joe. I know Dave got fired for putting things on his resume that were not true. But still think he was better. I just dont like how joe does things. Its a survival situation and pry 80% of Americans Havnt been in the military. I myself have, but if your gonna teach survival why not do it at its most basic form. That's why Cody was my favorite.

As far as Cody wearing shoes. Well I kinda do something similar. I mean I lived in Michigan for 32 years and I never wore shoes/pants around my house. I'd go check the mail barefoot when I was 12 in two feet of snow.. Mom thought I was crazy but it didn't bother me at all. Cody does it to be aware of his surroundings...not sure why I do it.. Maybe I just like the feel of nature better. Granted if I were put in a survival situation you better bet I'd bring some boots along. Just saying. That's his way of life and he's used to it.. He said on one show "20 years of not wearing shoes has given me the right not to" or something along those lines. Never liked joe giving him crap about it. I go barefoot/shorts anywhere I go summer or winter still today... Friends, family, fast food, feed the dog, mail. Only place I dont is if I'm going to the store.

I thought I would stop watching the show after cody was gone.. But figured I'd check out this new guy Matt Graham. He seems to be ok.. But I'm gonna miss cody
 
On another show he said something like " 70% of people world wide dont wear shoes.. Why is it so weird". Not sure of the numbers.. I'm sure I'm wrong.. But allot! Dont
 
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