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Dishonest description of condition or omission of damage
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I don't remember it being stated that this would be sold on other forums as well as a proper description of the item. Just saying XM 18 scale leaves one to wonder. You don't have to be hyper detailed but at least enough to give a proper description. If it had been the right size i amongst others were ready to buy it then and there. While you were "checking other forums first" that it was listed, you were still logged onto BF for quite some time browsing around. After sometime, i just gave up, because you didn't seem to be coming back or at least responding to anyone.
What really confuses me is that the people that sell so many things find it so difficult to just post a proper description, and some don't even place photos. And when some people do post photos they conveniently leave out things, or it's a blurry shot.
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I said i was in the wrong several times already, if you read? Would you go so far as to call it a POS based on those pictures? I mean clearly people lined up to buy it regardless of whatever condition you might call it in those pictures
As for the prospective buyer. I apologize i missed your post. I dont think i have to tell anybody where my stuff is listed.
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No reason to get an attitude as I asked a simple question. Buyer says scale has flaws and you admit it was not in the stated condition but when you relist it you mention no issues with condition? Am I missing something?
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I am putting it lightly so i dont offend jaytaylor or try to discredit his claim. The guy has been thru a lot which i am sincerely sympathetic about. I agreed to refund him without question.
Look at the scale. It has dirt on it. Thats it. Its probably not new so Jay is right. Its far from being a POS. The buyer knows what condition its in this time before paying. He actually paid me more than Jay did knowing that fact ironicly because i underpriced it the first time.
If anybody else wants to take a swing theyre more than welcome to. Ive been nothing but upfront and polite about this situation to the best of my ability. Im just here for fun. I understand youre just trying to mediate though and i apologize if my prior tone was condescending in any way.
I think anything being sold on this forum requires full disclosure, I've sold two of my knives on here and to be known as a high risk seller for only having two transactions under my belt is a Tad bit unfair. But if there is any damage, whether it be scuffs, stains, chips, dings, scratches or whatever, a close up photo of the particular damage needs to be taken as well in addition to the normal shots
This is clearly stated in the rules. The Exchange operates on integrity, as such, those with less than ethical practices may be removed form the site at will if their practices become known. There should be no question of what is required of the sellers/traders on this site:
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Man that sucks. I plan on upgrading my membership at one point to sell but might want to trade even sooner and im really nervous about this. While requesting pictures helps, they could be false pictures. Would anyone find it insulting to skype video their knives? Might be weird but if anyone requested that from me when i go to trade mine i would be totally fine with it.
I do like to see detailed pics prior to any sale or trade. Thats why I always post pics in my trade threads. I will say mistakes do happen. I traded a Delica to a member. After the trade he contacted me letting me know the clip screws had been loctighted, and he was surprised about it. I had no idea they had been loctighted. The knife was set up for right hand tip up carry, which is my preferance. So I never messed with the scews. I apologised. And I would have done whatever he wanted to make it right. He said he was good with the trade and we left it at that. So I do understand if someone might miss something on a knife. I like the idea mentioned earlier about both parties being happy before a deal is final.
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It only takes one bad trade to ruin one's reputation.
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Apologies are great, if you sneeze in someone's face.......................
+1. I will add that any item that goes for more than $30 or so simply deserves photo's from all relevant angles. The buyer sure needs them, and I agree with the above, should not commit without them. And of course, an item just sells better with good pics. So really, what reason can there be for not including pics in a sales post?
Would it be too much to read through a members posts and feedback to see if they are a contributing member of the community vs a fly by night scammer? Anyone can send videos of their knives, that does nothing to fix the issue. People need to be accountable for their actions, they need to treat their transactions as if they were doing things face to face, some integrity helps too.
I ve been lucky with all my sales and purchases! I guess now I only deal with people that have quite a bit of positive feedback. If I ever get an item thats is wrongly described I will make sure I am refunded or made right. My advice good communication is key. And do a little research before making the transaction! That CF scale looks alright to me in those pics! Cheers!
That would be interesting, but we really try to operate on integrity first and foremost. Those without it can keep on truckin' right on past here. We can't even get some people to post pictures of their stuff, just about every cell phone has a camera and it's not hard to post a clean picture.
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This is so true, posting pics is fairly simple with a photobucket account, imgur, image shack, etc... Camera's these days are fairly inexpensive and easy to use.
I think any for sale post should have pics of the actual knife.
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