Disliked knife brands?

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I dislike all the generally disliked brands same as the other folks here, but the only "generally accepted" brand I strongly dislike is Strider. I will never own a Strider knife.
 
palonej said:
I am sure Benchmade is thrilled you are avoiding them........and I don't blame them.

Any company making clones.
CRKT......horrible builds of great designs.
Quarterwhatever.....lying thieves.
Boker.....see CRKT above.
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I doubt benchmade is happy. They are part of the website and I will never speak good of them again. People will read these posts and old threads. Benchmade will lose more then me when people reconsider a knife purchase.
If you're a cop or military their customer service will bend over backwards for you. I highly recommend spyderco knives over them. Sal is the best customer service.
 
needler420 said:
Benchmade. Worst customer service and warranty process I ever went through. Since then it has become a brand I avoid.

I have taken interest in cold steel lately. At least I know what to expect.
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You mean this experience: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...-with-benchmade-warranty-and-customer-service

You ran a con on Benchmade. You didn't like the offer they gave you for your Father's (not yours) 31 year knife. You expected a $50 knife be replaced with a >$250 knife. After they wouldn't do it you threatened them by saying you would start a nasty thread about them here, which you did in their subforum. Then, when everyone pointed out how wrong you were on multiple levels you got pissed and started lashing out at people. Then it all turned out you got your dad's knife fixed and a gift certificate yet you still went around talking junk about BM. Once again the community called you on this BS and you left BFC for a nice while.

Nice reason to dislike BM :rolleyes:
 
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needler420 said:
I doubt benchmade is happy. They are part of the website and I will never speak good of them again. People will read these posts and old threads. Benchmade will lose more then me when people reconsider a knife purchase.
If you're a cop or military their customer service will bend over backwards for you. I highly recommend spyderco knives over them. Sal is the best customer service.
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Nope. You threatened them kid. Sal wouldn't put up with threats either.
 
craytab said:
You mean this experience: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...-with-benchmade-warranty-and-customer-service

You ran a con on Benchmade. You didn't like the offer they gave you for your Father's (not yours) 31 year knife. You expected a $50 knife be replaced with a >$250 knife. After they wouldn't do it you threatened them by saying you would start a nasty thread about them here, which you did in their subforum. Then, when everyone pointed out how wrong you were on multiple levels you got pissed and started lashing out at people. Then it all turn out you got your dad's knife fixed and a gift certificate yet you still went around talking junk about BM. Once again the community called you on this BS and you left BFC for a nice while.

Nice reason to dislike BM :rolleyes:
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Read the thread. A lot of people were on my side. Hence why benchmade gave a gift certificate. Which I told them that is not their warranty. Their warranty states they will "repair" or "replace the knife. They didn't do either. They stated the knife was $50 new when it came out in 1985 so they gave me a $75 dollar benchmade gift certificate.

Just because you don't agree with me others did.

It was a wakeup call for people who have old discontinued models. They might not get repaired.

Benchmade also kept my knife. Other members on here got a gift certificate issued and got to keep their broken knife. Not me.

I also don't know what you're talking about Sal and spyderco. Me and my dad have bought plenty of their knives with no issues. Benchmade was the only knife I ever sent in for warranty.

I brought up spyderco because Sal takes care of his clients and is actively participate with his fans.

People even said in that thread benchmade hurt their reputation the way they handled it.
 
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evilgreg said:
Strider - due to Mick Strider being a worthless sack of dishonorable crap (with bonus lock rock, terrible CS communication and timeliness, etc.)

Microtech - maker of the ZT 0777, er, Matrix (idiotic triangle screws for bonus points)

Brous - design thief extraordinaire

MKT - makes silly sharpened bricks that are supposed to be ultra-tough, then warns that if you maintain them in any way--including using a lubricant--they will self-destruct (bonus: Greg Medford probably has an IQ lower than the temperature of the room you're sitting in right now)

Quartermaster/QuarterMantis/QTRMTR - Lies about the provenance of their knives, their factory, their security, having a museum--scratch that, lies about everything (bonus: steals designs)
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Oh, got any links about the Brous thing? Haven't heard of it and I like/own several of knives but I won't keep buying them if that's true.
 
needler420 said:
Read the thread. A lot of people were on my side. Hence why benchmade gave a gift certificate. Which I told them that is not their warranty. Their warranty states they will "repair" or "replace the knife. They didn't do either. They stated the knife was $50 new when it came out in 1985 so they gave me a $75 dollar benchmade gift certificate.

Just because you don't agree with me others did.

It was a wakeup call for people who have old discontinued models. They might not get repaired.

Benchmade also kept my knife. Other members on here got a gift certificate issued and got to keep their broken knife. Not me.

I also don't know what you're talking about Sal and spyderco. Me and my dad have bought plenty of their knives with no issues. Benchmade was the only knife I ever sent in for warranty.

I brought up spyderco because Sal takes care of his clients and is actively participate with his fans.

People even said in that thread benchmade hurt their reputation the way they handled it.
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:rolleyes:

People can read the thread (and all your other recent ones) and decide who is in the wrong for themselves.
 
^ My point exactly. My other threads have nothing to do with one another.

And compared to what I see go on in whine and cheese I think others will agree.
 
R15K said:
Oh, got any links about the Brous thing? Haven't heard of it and I like/own several of knives but I won't keep buying them if that's true.
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If you search you can find multiple threads. Brous thieved designs from multiple designers, IIRC, in particular those of Jakub Wieczorkiewicz's Polish knife company, Poltergeist works (the Division, for example, is clearly a copy of the Jakub's Haunter). Here is one of the threads on that one for you.

Here is Brous's Division below with Jakub's much earlier Haunter fixed blade above:

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As I recall, there was word that they worked the issue out somehow after Brous was called out for it, but I could be remembering incorrectly.
 
evilgreg said:
If you search you can find multiple threads. Brous thieved designs from multiple designers, IIRC, in particular those of Jakub Wieczorkiewicz's Polish knife company, Poltergeist works (the Division, for example, is clearly a copy of the Jakub's Haunter). Here is one of the threads on that one for you.

Here is Brous's Division below with Jakub's much earlier Haunter fixed blade above:

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As I recall, there was word that they worked the issue out somehow after Brous was called out for it, but I could be remembering incorrectly.
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Thanks. On Another Forum this was brought up and the consensus was that the design was paid for, whether after being called out or not I don't know, and the Polish maker did give his permissions (but again I don't know if it was before or later). Guess I'll have to do some more reading.

And I did search but all the combinations of keywords I tried found me no threads about any controversy. I am however bad at the internet so that should be no surprise I guess.
 
I hate all of them, for various reasons. And posters - I hate all of them too, for various reasons. But, I really, really, hate Quartermaster and Strider, for reasons already stated.
 
R15K said:
Thanks. On Another Forum this was brought up and the consensus was that the design was paid for, whether after being called out or not I don't know, and the Polish maker did give his permissions (but again I don't know if it was before or later). Guess I'll have to do some more reading.

And I did search but all the combinations of keywords I tried found me no threads about any controversy. I am however bad at the internet so that should be no surprise I guess.
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As I recall the whole permission-giving thing was only negotiated after Brous was caught. The link I posted above quotes Jakub from a PM in which he wasn't happy about discovering the thievery. He's had a bunch of other goofy bad behavior as well, I vaguely remember him getting banned from USN for something or other, once upon a time.
 
needler420 said:
I doubt benchmade is happy. They are part of the website and I will never speak good of them again. People will read these posts and old threads. Benchmade will lose more then me when people reconsider a knife purchase.
If you're a cop or military their customer service will bend over backwards for you. I highly recommend spyderco knives over them. Sal is the best customer service.
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This makes me want to buy a Benchmade or three.

I guess the only makers I can say I "hate" are the cloners and thieves.
 
not my opinion, but the general consensus nowadays seems to be (as per people's threads, comments and discussions):

United Cutlery, BudK, Mtech, Timber Wolf, Master Cutlery etc. make the cheapo gas station knives and Chinese junk
CRKT and Boker have great designs and collabs but many QC issues, poor materials and bad knife for the money ratio
Gerber and Schrade went to China, overseas production, losing quality, dignity, and reputation. Worsened their CS and QC too
KAI seems to be losing lots of knife nuts as customers due to their newer (3Crcrap steel, horrible cheapos) models and decisions and the direction they've taken, much like SOG did a few years ago (worsening steel, QC, etc.)
Microtech seems to have the worst CS ever, and horrible practices (copying, proprietary screws etc.)
SRM and Ganzo take all the crap for their "homages" and copied ("inspired") designs
Medford, QTRMST have serious ethics problems and shameful stories
Bark River seems to have serious issues with their HT
Mantis knives is seen as "chinese made junk" and "only mall ninja" stuff with horrible marketing and managing
Cold Steel gets all the bashing for their advertising, marketing practices and overseas production
Benchmade is being criticised as of late for their MAP policy and discontinuing their flagship models and HK line
Spyderco receives many bad comments regarding designs and weird/odd models, looks and overall warranty policy
ZT is the target of all the "flipper haters" and seems to be creating too much "artsy" knives and weird models as of late
Emerson still takes a beating every week for their apparently overpriced folders, outdated designs and lack of QC or issues with their knives, especially for the $ paid
 
Frost Cutlery (Chattanooga) comes to mind with their slippies. But they are generally cheap. You can just do better at the same price range.

If Bark River has a heat treat problem, I suspect it relates to their grinding and suspected production goals.

I generally stay away from Chinese made knives (for now). They are improving. It takes some convincing for me to buy one, but I still do on occasion.
 
I forget the name of this one that hijacks designs. I think it is ganzo. One of the many rip off companies...
 
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