Do carry a folder that's longer the legal limit or are you legal where you live?

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I am sorry you feel that way.

I like a law where a police officer can determine the difference between someone who can explain why they carry a knife and what they use it for and a Mall Ninja.

The police are very relaxed about it as long you have a brain and can talk, without those two things, you shouldn't be carrying anything even remotly sharp...

The whole thing makes a little more sense to me then coming up with some ridiculous 'safe blade length' anyway...

Oh yeah that sounds wonderful...not.

Why stop there, just go ahead and feed us Soylent Green while they're at it.
 
I am sorry you feel that way.

"I like a law where a police officer can determine the difference between someone who can explain why they carry a knife and what they use it for and a Mall Ninja."

Thank God we live in a constitutional republic not a police state that you describe.

The police are very relaxed about it as long you have a brain and can talk, without those two things, you shouldn't be carrying anything even remotly sharp...

Some very good cops out there and some not so good. Police are there to enforce laws that are on the books not to make judgements about my fitness to carry.


The whole thing makes a little more sense to me then coming up with some ridiculous 'safe blade length' anyway...

I may not like some laws but I'd rather have laws made by law makers that we can vote in or out of office than by some cop that has a problem with armed citizens.

Mike
 
I am sorry you feel that way.

"I like a law where a police officer can determine the difference between someone who can explain why they carry a knife and what they use it for and a Mall Ninja."


I may not like some laws but I'd rather have laws made by law makers that we can vote in or out of office than by some cop that has a problem with armed citizens.

Mike

Amen brother! :thumbup:
 
My State does not have a 'max' length of blade to carry. There's an exception to swords being illegal [unless used in a theatrical production or LARP/SCA events] but otherwise....no length limit for knives in PA.
 
I am sorry you feel that way.

I like a law where a police officer can determine the difference between someone who can explain why they carry a knife and what they use it for and a Mall Ninja.

The police are very relaxed about it as long you have a brain and can talk, without those two things, you shouldn't be carrying anything even remotly sharp...

The whole thing makes a little more sense to me then coming up with some ridiculous 'safe blade length' anyway...

So having a brain and being able to talk are the requirements for carrying a knife but you can't spell remotely. My father and stepmother are retired police, I grew up around police, I have the opposite of anything against them, but I try not to leave anything up to the arbitrary discretion of anyone I don't know or trust.
 
The limits (usually blade length) and type of knife carried are a bit antiquated legally these days. That is why Knife Rights has been fighting/working/lobbying (etc) to change these laws. The law was changed in TN where I live where anything is legal now. But I have to contend with GA and AL laws too and I have no idea what they are in those states.

I mentioned earlier that I seldom paid much attention to the blade limits. Honestly I thought it was previously 3" in TN and then discovered it was 3.5". That is why laws such as this need to be changed as few people know the law. What are you supposed to do as a citizen? Hire a lawyer to research knife laws for you? Ridiculous!

People mostly carry knives to use to cut things (not people) because they just carry a knife that they like...... then it turns out in a place like NYC that their knife is illegal and they actually enforce things like that there. It is just plain stupid and mostly causes normal people problems who have never committed a crime in their lives except perhaps a speeding fine.

In Georgia, You may not conceal any knife with a blade over 5 inches WITHOUT a GA weapons permit. With a weapons permit there are no restrictions. The state law also Pre-empts local laws, therefore no localities can have knife restrictions that are different than the state's law.
 
So the police should have the power to revoke your 2nd amendment rights on the spot if you can't pass some kind of arbitrary iq test? Welcome to the United Soviet Socialist States of Ameica.

I have to agree with the others whom have stated that this is the most idiotic statement I have ever seen on this forum.

This would all make sense if I lived in the USSR of A.

As a Canadian, my right to carry any knife I want is far beyond what is permitted in almost every State in America, and we have no constitution.

I see zero issue with the Police doing their job and taking knives from idiots.

I think this is really being over-blown.
The Police here don't go on a witch hunt for people carrying knives.
They are incredibly cool about it, and it's really a non-issue.

If you are being an idiot and have a knife you will lose it. You can pick it up at the station later.

This is only an issue for people who are an issue.
 
In Georgia, You may not conceal any knife with a blade over 5 inches WITHOUT a GA weapons permit. With a weapons permit there are no restrictions. The state law also Pre-empts local laws, therefore no localities can have knife restrictions that are different than the state's law.

Yes, and I was very happy when they adopted these fairly new, much less restrictive knife laws. A very big improvement in the name of individual liberty. Hopefully, no one will try to impinge on this by confiscating my knife if I can't pass an arbitrary "purpose of use" or IQ test. :)
 
So having a brain and being able to talk are the requirements for carrying a knife but you can't spell remotely. My father and stepmother are retired police, I grew up around police, I have the opposite of anything against them, but I try not to leave anything up to the arbitrary discretion of anyone I don't know or trust.

I can't spell 'remotely' or I can't spell remotely? Please clarify as your grammar needs some work...

Anyway, I apologize for spelling a word incorrectly as I am sure you have never done that....

Let's leave what we are allowed to carry to a blanket law, put together with zero thought by your state government, based on size of the blade?

Sounds like a great way to make a fair decision.

Maybe you need to worry less about my spelling and more about your understanding of what is 'arbitrary'

The police have rules and laws to follow in what constitutes someone having their knife taken away. It has to be in the interest of public safety.

After taking a good look around, I have zero issue with that.
 
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I am sorry you feel that way.

"I like a law where a police officer can determine the difference between someone who can explain why they carry a knife and what they use it for and a Mall Ninja."

Thank God we live in a constitutional republic not a police state that you describe.

The police are very relaxed about it as long you have a brain and can talk, without those two things, you shouldn't be carrying anything even remotly sharp...

Some very good cops out there and some not so good. Police are there to enforce laws that are on the books not to make judgements about my fitness to carry.


The whole thing makes a little more sense to me then coming up with some ridiculous 'safe blade length' anyway...

I may not like some laws but I'd rather have laws made by law makers that we can vote in or out of office than by some cop that has a problem with armed citizens.

Mike

Bahaha!

You think you live in a Democracy and have a Constitution?!
In theory you are and you do.

You live in a Police State man, you need to get out of your basement and take a look at how the most beautiful ideology of how a country should be managed ever put into practice (your constitution) is now being trampled on...

Wake up, then post.
 
Their job is to 'protect and serve,' the end. We have judges to determine what is/isn't legal.

That is all. :D

Are those the same judges that determined that 2.5 inches seems 'safe' ?, or wait, are they the ones that went with '4 inches is safe' ?

Look man, if your pants are around your ankles, you are hanging around outside a 711 half drunk, you have prior convictions, and when the Police are called because you are harassing people you will lose the knife in your pocket. I have zero issues with that....
 
It's ok guys, I doubt he has a good reason to explain himself anyways...

It's OK guys, cause my post count just went up......
Too bad we can't post less than 5 charachters or I would have hit 5000 by now...

Thanks BB, you're usual contribution to another thread is again, zero.
 
I don't worry about the length. It's more about how you carry yourself. I've heard this from cops as well. 2.5" vs 3.5" doesn't matter unless you're looking for trouble.
 
I apologize if I get this thread closed, not my intention.

My point is, the only people that need to really worry about police discretion are either paranoid, or are the reason we need police discretion.

I know a lot of Cops. They are for the most part great people who take the way they do their jobs very seriously and follow the law when it comes to knives.
I like to follow the law as well, and that means I have never had an issue carrying any knife.

Thank you.
 
I can't spell 'remotely' or I can't spell remotely? Please clarify as your grammar needs some work...

Anyway, I apologize for spelling a word incorrectly as I am sure you have never done that....

Let's leave what we are allowed to carry to a blanket law, put together with zero thought by your state government, based on size of the blade?

Sounds like a great way to make a fair decision.

Maybe you need to worry less about my spelling and more about your understanding of what is 'arbitrary'

The police have rules and laws to follow in what constitutes someone having their knife taken away. It has to be in the interest of public safety.

After taking a good look around, I have zero issue with that.

My grammar needs work but you're the only one who's made a grammatical error. That checks out, chief. The thing is, we agree on the concept of their being a notion of what is and isn't appropriate. Even if it was legal, and it isn't, I'm probably not carrying my CS Kudu because I will never realistically need such a preposterously large folding knife. On the other hand, when I was 17, I was jumped by five goons participating in a gang initiation and had three of my ribs broken, a fractured skull, sixty stitches on my head and a broken hand. I don't depend on a knife to protect me, legal or not, but at the end of the day, the police can only afford you protection if they're on hand to witness the transgression. I think that makes a lot of people, rightfully, nervous, and they respond as such.
 
I am sorry you feel that way.

I like a law where a police officer can determine the difference between someone who can explain why they carry a knife and what they use it for and a Mall Ninja.

The police are very relaxed about it as long you have a brain and can talk, without those two things, you shouldn't be carrying anything even remotly sharp...

The whole thing makes a little more sense to me then coming up with some ridiculous 'safe blade length' anyway...

This would all make sense if I lived in the USSR of A.

As a Canadian, my right to carry any knife I want is far beyond what is permitted in almost every State in America, and we have no constitution.

I see zero issue with the Police doing their job and taking knives from idiots.

I think this is really being over-blown.
The Police here don't go on a witch hunt for people carrying knives.
They are incredibly cool about it, and it's really a non-issue.

If you are being an idiot and have a knife you will lose it. You can pick it up at the station later.

This is only an issue for people who are an issue.

I apologize if I get this thread closed, not my intention.


My point is, the only people that need to really worry about police discretion are either paranoid, or are the reason we need police discretion.


I know a lot of Cops. They are for the most part great people who take the way they do their jobs very seriously and follow the law when it comes to knives.
I like to follow the law as well, and that means I have never had an issue carrying any knife.


Thank you.


Well I can probably speak for a good many Americans on this point....ahem....

"Glad we don't live there."

We DO have a Constitution and those from other Countries, raised by Communistic or Socialistic ideas often have some kind of "issue" with our asserting our Rights. They simply don't understand because they don't know what it feels like. They are used to the notion that their government 'will take care of them' [when they really don't], that the government [read that as Police] 'will protect them' [when they really can't] and all they have to do is surrender their civil liberties and hope for the best.

Bullchit.

I am LE - and an American - and I can tell you that without a doubt, our Country has been spiraling into that cesspool of mistrust and hatred of everything government. Big Government totalitarians [read that as Communist/Socialist, et al] do NOTHING to protect it's subjects but relies on them for EVERYTHING they need to 'give to everyone' - including those that don't deserve squat. We see the American Government turning into the latest version of that. Many Americans, including this one, say "Screw that." They believe it's the individual's responsibility for __________....not the government's....and I happen to be one of them. My FIRST duty is to defend the Constitution. Everything else takes second seat to that.

And in case you've missed it, local LE Officers across our Nation are under siege right now. Why? Because of the brutal and militaristic tactics they have been employing. Who's fault is that? Theirs as much as the career politicians who think they know what's best for us. I've watched Rookie officers come out of the academy acting like Judge Dredd...that they are being taught that everyone is a "potential threat." It is not for the line officer to 'interpret' the law [as THEY see it], their job is to enforce the letter of the law that's written. The FIRST laws of this Nation are spelled out in our Constitution and Bill of Rights. All other laws are secondary to them. If any American doesn't like that, they are welcome to leave IMO. We won't miss you in the slightest.

Now the People are starting to fight back....mostly with camera phones but with some, in their physical but LEGAL actions. Police don't want you to video them because it's going to put them "on the spot".....yet police departments often record, but refuse to release, video when it suits their purposes. FOI requests go unanswered or are blatantly refused. Politicians classify almost everything under "National Security" to prevent the Country from learning the truth...because if they did, their heads would be rolled. I agree that there are certain things that should be left to National Security but not to the extent they currently do.

The fact is that American police are becoming more brutal, shooting first and asking questions later and its because of the mindset our Governments are giving them. "Everyone" is a potential terrorist...."everyone" has to be spied on in the hopes of discovering a terrorist cell...."Everyone" must be disarmed so they can't fight back [against the government] and "everyone" has to accept it. The DHS bought 1.7 BILLION rounds of hollow point ammunition. For what? HP ammo is not "practice" ammo and that quantity is enough to kill - every - single - American - 5 times.

I've met fellow officers that I wouldn't trust with a water balloon slingshot....and you want the People to trust them with making a spit decision as to their Rights and well-being? Look around at all the cases of Police brutality/excessive force, unwarranted shootings and their tactics over the past few years. No thanks....and my shield holds the same "responsibilities" as theirs. Mine is just more....."responsible"....
 
Well I can probably speak for a good many Americans on this point....ahem....

"Glad we don't live there."

Well...the same could be said going the other way too. ;)

I think the poster you got riled up by went overboard for whatever reason (But hey it's the weekend...good time to go overboard, right?).

Personally, I like there not being a length limit, as it has always worked out in my favour; I like big knives. :)
However, there sure have been times that zealous cops in certain cities have been giant weenies about enforcing how they see things; that seems to happen in just about every country though.

As for the thread topic, no, I don't carry a knife over the legal limit since there isn't one.
If there was, though, I'd most likely be carrying knives that were in that range, so as to avoid annoying police and court entanglements.
 
Well...the same could be said going the other way too. ;)

I think the poster you got riled up by went overboard for whatever reason (But hey it's the weekend...good time to go overboard, right?).

Personally, I like there not being a length limit, as it has always worked out in my favour; I like big knives. :)
However, there sure have been times that zealous cops in certain cities have been giant weenies about enforcing how they see things; that seems to happen in just about every country though.

As for the thread topic, no, I don't carry a knife over the legal limit since there isn't one.
If there was, though, I'd most likely be carrying knives that were in that range, so as to avoid annoying police and court entanglements.

I agree...I'm sure it could be said if situations were reversed....

It still just grinds my gears how People in ANY Country just loves the idea of having everyone else limit their way of life. I cannot fathom it being worse than what it already is [here in the US]. To exasperate that feeling, People from other Countries coming here [the US] and trying to dictate how We [the People] "should be"...[take that as Piers Morgan and company].

But I also understand that their lives are all they know. I simply say that if that's what you like, then good for you - but I don't have to like it, nor do I want to experience [their] level of oppression. I don't have to and neither does the American People.

...and personally, I don't care about how other countries' cops treat their citizens [or subjects, depending on level of oppression ::cough ENGLAND, RUSSIA, CHINA, KOREA cough::.....I care about my fellow Americans and in particular, those in my jurisdiction.

If PA had a length limit to knives, I'd carry what the legal length stated and no more. Being that we don't, I've been known to carry my KABAR around just because I wanted to.
 
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