Does any one out there have any simmons hardware or keen kutter knives?

waynorth said:
So danno50 danno50 , can you date these Daddy Barlows for us?? I realize the tang stamps are not so clear. If you need them again, let me know!!
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The tang stamps on both knives are the standard Keen Kutter stamp which was in use from 1905 through to 1942.

I believe the top knife may be a K1773 3/4BL. My first purchase at OKCA in 2016 was one just like it. Sellens indicates that it was in the Simmons catalogs between 1924 through to 1934. It should have a stamped pattern number on the pile side of the tang? I have included a catalog cut from a reprint of the 1930 catalog. (not worried about copyright infringement as I can find no trace of the publishing company on the internet and I believe they are likely out of business?)

There are two possibilities for the bottom knife. If there is no pattern number stamped on the back, I believe it would be a K601, which was in the Simmons catalogs between 1905 through to 1920. If there is a pattern number stamped on the pile side of the tang, I believe it should be K1771 3/4, which was in the Simmons catalogs between 1921 to 1942. If there is no pattern number, it could also be a K1771 3/4 produced in 1921 or 1922, prior to the Simmons and Winchester merger. I have a pdf of the 1917 catalog (downloaded, with permission, from "Collectors_of-Schrades-R-us"), however, it is missing some pages, including the one with the K601 listing.

In explanation, I have a loose theory that Keen Kutters with either no pattern number, or an etched pattern number, were produced during the Walden era (1905 to about 1922). There is a more detailed explanation on page 13 of this thread. Since the post on page 13, I have created a database, using KKs from ebay and this and other forums, which, for the most part, support my theories.

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Please note that all of the information that I post regarding pattern numbers, date ranges etc. is available in Sellens book on Keen Kutter pocket knives.
"Keen Kutter Pocket Knives" by Alvin Sellens. Anyone who has the book can figure this stuff out on their own.
 
The Tang stamp on the Sawcut knife is somewhat smaller than
the (worn) stamp on the jigged Bone knife.
The stamps both have ST.LOUIS (over) MO. at the bottom of the wedge.
There is no pattern number
on either knife - no marks on the pile sides at all.
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I don't believe that the difference in tang stamp sizes is indicative of time periods when the knives were made.
The lack of a pattern number on the sawcut bone knife fits with my theory of it being an earlier (1905 - 1920) knife.
However, the lack of a pattern number on the jigged bone knife may indicate a flaw in my theory as previously discussed.
I also just noticed that the bolster font on Charlie's knives is block, not slanted like most KK barlows?? Maybe an indication that the two knives were made in the same time period??
 
I'm pretty sure the bolsters on my two were stamped with the same stamp, which might put their origins in the same time frame and place. Yours has a Saber-ground blade; however, the bone jigging looks like it has the same origin as yours, Dan. Mystery upon mystery!!:eek:
 
Charlie, I was so determined to fit your knives into my simplified theory of where I thought they should fit, that I missed the obvious significance of the bolster stamps. I believe you were giving me subtle hints towards this, but I missed them as well. Thanks for the lesson!:thumbsup: Knife collecting might become boring if there were no mysteries.
Also, although it appears to be, the blade on my knife is not actually saber-ground. It appears that way due to some cleaned up corrosion on the portion of the blade that sits above the blade well when the knife is closed.
 
danno50 danno50 as requested.

Keen Kutter Cattle knife K327S

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A friend sent me this image form a 1910 catalog, don't know if mine is that old or not ?

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Steve, beautiful KK Cattle Knife! Those jigged bone handles are gorgeous with all those yellows, browns, honey, cinnamon, chocolate, toffee and caramel colors swirling around together—making me hungry just looking at ito_O:)
 
Hey everyone! I enjoyed looking through all 16 pages of these Keen Kutter's! I'm strictly a Case enthusiast/collector but was contacted by my cousin who recently had a death in his wife's family, for some help. This individual who passed had quite the knife collection. I need some help on a Keen Kutter with 2874 and the logo. I don't believe it's dated way back. My apologies for not posting the photo's I have, I'm a brand new user here on blade forums and I'm learning. If I figure out how to post the photo's, I certainly will. ANY information would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks
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I recently received a Keen Kutter Stockman from a higly respected bearded member from the North. I love the knife and am curious of when (more or less of course) she was built.
The picture does not give justice to the bone jigging.
No indication on the tangs at all though. Any help welcome.
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Looks good in pctures, JP!! But in person it's nicer!!! Hope someone ( danno50 danno50 ?) can date it!!
A stockman like that always makes me think of cowboys in the older days of the American West!!:)
 
First post and excited to be here. I have a interesting E.C. Simmons 2 blade pocket knife and I’m curious to know roughly when this knife was made. Here are some pictures:


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waynorth said:
Looks good in pctures, JP!! But in person it's nicer!!! Hope someone ( danno50 danno50 ?) can date it!!
A stockman like that always makes me think of cowboys in the older days of the American West!!:)
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I 100% agree! The bone is incredible and so warm when holding her! Used her today in the garden, blades can show very sharp (ask tomatoes :D).
Sure, this is the kind of knife you're happy to have when living under the sun and sleeping under the moon! Seems you're indomitable with her in the pocket. I had that kind of feeling with the Frontier, but the (worm ?) bone jigging is a true bonus :)
 
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