Does Anyone NOT Love The Sebenza ?

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Like most forum members i got to the point in my knife collection that i had to acquire a sebenza and was glad i did.
 
Locutus D'Borg said:
It is all about the ability to recognize nuances in quality, fit, finish, and functionality. Some have it, some develop it over time, and some never do.
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So I can add this to the list of why I have such low self esteem.

Not sure how you rose to such high level of understanding how others see knives, clothes or any other tangibles but congratulations.

I have owned a Sebenza and a William Henery, didn't see what you do in the CRK but really liked the WH.

To each their own, I don't judge a person on what kind of knife they like or buy.
 
Having only seen pictures and read about the Sebenza I really don't have the info as to whether I like or dislike this knife.

But I do have one question.
Someone said in an earlier post that "flicking the knife open voids the warranty".
Is there any truth to this statement?
 
LOCUTUS, the OP asked why people don't like the Sebenza. You are probably going to get pretty frustrated in this thread. No one is hating on you, just properly responding to the OP's question.
 
I really like the minimal styling and such on the knife. I don't mind the price, it's not the most expensive knife I own. I dare say I would love this knife... if it would hold a freaking edge. With no exaggeration at all, of my 25 quality folders, mostly benchmades, with a couple of spydercos and ZTs and some others, my insingo has the worst edge holding of all of them. Granted almost all my knives are M4, M390 and D2. I do have a few S30vs in there though, and I have found no fault with them, but I think benchmade and Spyderco both run their s30v a couple points harder than CRK. This S35vn on the insingo though, it just isn't up to the level of performance that the rest of the knife is. I know I'm hardly the first person to notice this, I just wonder if the really big CRK fanatics have other quality knives to compare the edge retention too, or maybe they only buy CRKs so they don't notice it. I just feel like I shouldn't be noticing a big difference between S35vn on the insingo and S30v on a sage 3 or a 530-1302.. but I really really do.

I would love this knife if they went harder with the S35vn or a completely different steel. As I said, I like the design, I really like the concept of supreme precision, but it's all brought low by the steel choice/heat treat. A good knife should hold an edge.
 
When I first came here to research folders, 3 folders (production?) Stood out, hinderer crk and strider.

visited a handful of fine cutlery shops (I HAVE to have product in hand) and asked to see some knives. All were of high quality (some off center issues and even over grinds on bevel) but the one that stood out was a small sebenza. I could not leave without one after handling some very pricey folders.

its not my favorite knife, but it is a very nice knife.
 
Just out of curiosity, what IS your favorite knife?

HwangJino said:
When I first came here to research folders, 3 folders (production?) Stood out, hinderer crk and strider.

visited a handful of fine cutlery shops (I HAVE to have product in hand) and asked to see some knives. All were of high quality (some off center issues and even over grinds on bevel) but the one that stood out was a small sebenza. I could not leave without one after handling some very pricey folders.

its not my favorite knife, but it is a very nice knife.
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deathofallthings said:
I really like the minimal styling and such on the knife. I don't mind the price, it's not the most expensive knife I own. I dare say I would love this knife... if it would hold a freaking edge. With no exaggeration at all, of my 25 quality folders, mostly benchmades, with a couple of spydercos and ZTs and some others, my insingo has the worst edge holding of all of them. Granted almost all my knives are M4, M390 and D2. I do have a few S30vs in there though, and I have found no fault with them, but I think benchmade and Spyderco both run their s30v a couple points harder than CRK. This S35vn on the insingo though, it just isn't up to the level of performance that the rest of the knife is. I know I'm hardly the first person to notice this, I just wonder if the really big CRK fanatics have other quality knives to compare the edge retention too, or maybe they only buy CRKs so they don't notice it. I just feel like I shouldn't be noticing a big difference between S35vn on the insingo and S30v on a sage 3 or a 530-1302.. but I really really do.

I would love this knife if they went harder with the S35vn or a completely different steel. As I said, I like the design, I really like the concept of supreme precision, but it's all brought low by the steel choice/heat treat. A good knife should hold an edge.
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I don't own a crk but someday I will. If you watch chris reeve 's YouTube video "shop tour" he says he COULD make a knife that would hold an edge forever but he chose to make a steel that was easily sharpend.
I think only knife nuts like us are going to buy one so why not make it harder? Most of us know how or who to send a knife to, to make it sharp!
 
It is hands down the best knife (folder) I have ever encountered. At first, it was a bit underwhelming, I admit. But after a week of use (and I do use it daily) I am struck by its perfect execution. It is a fixed blade that happens to fold. Take one apart, put it back together and be amazed at how it fits. I replaced my pocket clip due to my catching it on doors and seats, and it just snapped into place. I have other folders, but until I get my hands on a custom of my own desiegn(a nessmuk framelock? Anyone know of something like that?) this is my grail and I am satisfied with it.
 
Sharpnessis said:
I don't own a crk but someday I will. If you watch chris reeve 's YouTube video "shop tour" he says he COULD make a knife that would hold an edge forever but he chose to make a steel that was easily sharpend.
I think only knife nuts like us are going to buy one so why not make it harder? Most of us know how or who to send a knife to, to make it sharp!
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Serious! They should offer harder steel for those that can sharpen. I would appreciate if it was an option.
 
Everything is subjective. Does anyone really need to spend over $100 on any knife? The obvious answer is no. Most people on this forum could easily get by everyday with a $20 Swiss Army knife, but that's not really the issue here. We buy knives because we want to. If you want something "extra" you're going to have to pay for it. Some people complain that the Sebenza is priced too high. Well so is a $120 Spyderco for a lot of working people. Try explaining why a Spyderco Paramilitary is worth it's asking price over a Buck 110 (for comparison) to the average "non-knife enthusiast" looking to buy a knife.

Is the Sebenza worth the asking price? Yes, I think so. As a Sebenza owner I appreciate the high level of quality and workmanship not found on lesser-priced production knives. In fact, I'm giving serious thought at getting a Sebenza 25 on the coming weeks. I love the fluid action and simplicity of the Sebenza's design. I fully understand that paying $400+ on a folding knife is a serious commitment for a lot of people and it may not be practical for everybody. There's no shame in owning low-cost to mid priced production knives, heck I own a good number of them (SAKs, CRKTs, Spydercos, ZT's, Benchmades, Emersons) and I wouldn't have bought them had I thought they weren't worth it. That said, I do think the Sebenza is worth it. So have the vast majority of people who have bought Sebenzas.
 
I don't own any Sebenza but eventually I will buy one . Most likely will be a small Sebenza 21 with micarta inlays . Just because as a knife person I have to see what's the big deal with the Sebenza . I don't really care for them . But I'm willing to try one . I hope I end up not likening them for my pocket sake .:) .
 
willc said:
Having only seen pictures and read about the Sebenza I really don't have the info as to whether I like or dislike this knife.

But I do have one question.
Someone said in an earlier post that "flicking the knife open voids the warranty".
Is there any truth to this statement?
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From my understanding, the "flicking" that voids the warranty are wrist flicks, not thumb flicks. At least that's what I gathered from reading about that.
Could be wrong though
 
Chris reeve actually recommends a flick after reassembly? Not 100% but I think ive read that much...

If you can, id suggest going to a store that carries sebenza and ask to handle.
 
I can't afford one right now but they are really nice. I'll just keep rotating my pm2 and 940 for now.
 
I went to a local gun show with all intentions of buying a small Sebenza Insingo. When I got there and handled it for a few minutes, I knew right there that it wasn't the knife for me. Sure, it has excellent fit and finish and the tolerances are superb, but the overall design didn't tickle my fancy. If I'm going to spend $350 on a blade, it's really gotta call to me.
 
Locutus D'Borg said:
It is all about the ability to recognize nuances in . . . functionality.
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Okay, that's where my horse hockey meter starts making noise. CRKs don't function better than other knives - if function is defined as cutting, slicing, etc. That's something that CRK fans just make up in order to try to justify spending $450 for a dang pocket knife. In fact, a Spyderco Tenacious kills a cardboard box and peels an apple better than an Umnumzaan. A CS Voyager XL hacks and chops and pries better. And is grippier. Sebenzas are blingier, but the nuanced functionality stuff is a load of turkey giggle isn't it? Am I wrong?

Chris Reeve knives make some people feel good. And that's a very good thing if you are one of those people. But they don't function better. Let's keep it real here.

The interweb's most-watched knife reviewer (I'm guessing) characterized the Sebenza as a "douche knife". I'm talking about myself here and no one else, because sometimes I feel like a douche for paying >$1000 for 3 CRK knives that I almost never carry. I willingly got sucked in to the whole "greatest knife ever" thing. They are nice knives with close tolerances, like a lot of other nice knives with close tolerances. But when you get down to it, they don't chop a zucchini or cut open a burlap bag better than the $50 stuff. For some people, having a CRK in their pocket makes them feel good. And that's cool. But I call hog hockey on the better functionality stuff.

 
OP, some of your threads seem to be well thought out lightning rods. I don't like a regular sebenza, but I do like my micarta inlay sebenza. I really like the Umnumzaan better, but the last one I bought had S35v and would not hold an edge. The micarta sebenza is also S35v, but holds an edge better. It may have just been that my stones were dished out and needed to be flattened. Anyway, I don't like knives that have titanium on both sides and nothing to give you traction.
 
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