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Ouch! Once I stropped the burr off of mine it was sharp. That D2 takes a wicked edge. Heal fast, bro. Be careful out there. :eek:
 
It really doesn't bother me but the ball detent on mine is really strong, strongest on any folder I have ever handled. To the point where anyone I've handed it too fails to open it one handed. BUT, it is starting to wear in and my lock is failing less (but still fails).

I'd also like to say, that while it's good to know if I want to have my issues fixed or return the knife for a full refund, as an international customer, between the change in exchange rate and shipping costs, I'd be out quite a bit of money. I really do like the design of the knife, I just find it disappointing that a $200plus knife has so many QC issues straight out of the box. It is by far the most expensive folder I have ever owned, the rest of my collection ranges from $10 to $100 and I've never had issues with any of them new. I've only had one other lock failure, and that was on a POS Stanley folder, after 3 years of HARD use on construction sites.
 
I was disappointed enough to to cancel my LE order but much of that wasn't even about the tweaks that were needed before I got it. Some though. And yes, some was my reaction to the mini super nova that occured in the last throes of the DPx forum but actually, I really blame the resulting bad taste some might hold on the pre-release hype versus the delays. I suspect Lionsteel, whom I believe is a world class knife MFG regardless of this project's early days (Gianni, we love you and your company) got stuck in the unexpected quagmire as much as RYP and his employees and associates. I'm sure RYP and his team all need this project to succeed, even in the face of some past friendly ego fire.

I have seen some good, customer oriented posts by RYP and his supporters recently and I applaud the effort to reverse the past. Good job. Keep it up.

At this point, I have zero hard feelings. I'm good now. Money was refunded as promised without a hitch and now that the hornet's nest has rescinded a bit, I'm now in the waiting game with regard to when I will buy at least one HEST/F and depending on the future offerings, perhaps other products. For me, it's now down to nothing more than what RYP offers and if it appeals to me at this point. The HEST/F does appeal to me and I truly hope to purchase the second run after whatever tweaks they deem appropriate.

Keep up the forward progress Gianni and RYP. If I didn't have many who forgave me for my past errors, I'd be doomed to hell.

I WILL have an SR-1 soon too. Lionsteel makes one hell of a fine folder and I'm sure RYP wants nothing more than success. This is the right direction since the closure.

I hope a little more time heals the damage that may have been done in the final magnesium flare up because everyone should get a second chance like I've had more than twice ;)

RYP - do me a favor though and let's offer a HEST/F with more blade and a stonewashed finish! :D
 
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4" blade and a Stonewashed finish would really set this knife off! It would be a mega beast! I'm still waiting on my LE but if RYP said they were coming out with this I would ask to be put on a pre order. I don't mind waiting.....
Ps. I forgot to mention the scales. Based on current events in the Middle East a Dark Earth and a Desert Tan G10 Scale would look sweet with a Stonewashed blade. It would blend well with the environment. Oh and an all black version for those night missions ;)
 
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PunisherLcr said:
It really doesn't bother me but the ball detent on mine is really strong, strongest on any folder I have ever handled. To the point where anyone I've handed it too fails to open it one handed. BUT, it is starting to wear in and my lock is failing less (but still fails).

I'd also like to say, that while it's good to know if I want to have my issues fixed or return the knife for a full refund, as an international customer, between the change in exchange rate and shipping costs, I'd be out quite a bit of money. I really do like the design of the knife, I just find it disappointing that a $200plus knife has so many QC issues straight out of the box. It is by far the most expensive folder I have ever owned, the rest of my collection ranges from $10 to $100 and I've never had issues with any of them new. I've only had one other lock failure, and that was on a POS Stanley folder, after 3 years of HARD use on construction sites.
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I am sure they vary. Mine is super hard to open initially.
 
Horn Dog said:
Really? Well even sober, this is still the hardest to open knife I have ever owned. I did no personal insults, but to judge all Lion Steel knives by one example is not fair, and I apologized to Gianni for that and edited out my sweeping generalizations. But unless you have actually tried to open THIS ONE, you don't really know how rough it is. While my thumb heals, I will continue to work the action with both hands and see if it smooths out.
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Apologies are not necessary. Maybe you are right that knife is hard to open.
A simple test let you understand if it is only a knife problem or also a way of keep it while you are opening it.
Try to open the knife with the left hand, in this way you will not push the liner. Of course you have to consider that you are not used to open the knife with left hand (I suppose, sorry) but it let you understand if it is only a knife problem.
 
furfmonkey said:
all that brass reminds me of those old people who buy gold or champagne colored cars with fake convertible tops and gold emblems and trim bleech


but i would take your knife over a hest folder simple because i know its gonna work 100% of the time and it doesnt have someones name on the blade..
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You sure about that? :p
 
Mr. Shackelford is correct, of course. In fact, it has several "someone's names" on the blade.
 
GianniLion said:
Apologies are not necessary. Maybe you are right that knife is hard to open.
A simple test let you understand if it is only a knife problem or also a way of keep it while you are opening it.
Try to open the knife with the left hand, in this way you will not push the liner. Of course you have to consider that you are not used to open the knife with left hand (I suppose, sorry) but it let you understand if it is only a knife problem.
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I have been working it with two hands, as my thumb is blistered and sore from this thing. Yes, I can keep my finger off the liner. Believe it or not, I probably own over 1,000 knives. Maybe 100 folders. This one is too hard to open for me. I am 63 years old and remember when the only one-hand opening knives were switchblades. We used to attach thumb studs to Buck Folding Hunters to make them one hand openers. Then companies started making them that way. Since ease of opening is only one parameter, in a week I will do a full test and review. I hope it smooths out some by then.
 
You can cut 1/8" of a piece of heatshrink that will slip over the thumb stud and shrink it on there, will make the stud much nicer to press into.
 
Horn Dog said:
I have been working it with two hands, as my thumb is blistered and sore from this thing. Yes, I can keep my finger off the liner. Believe it or not, I probably own over 1,000 knives. Maybe 100 folders. This one is too hard to open for me. I am 63 years old and remember when the only one-hand opening knives were switchblades. We used to attach thumb studs to Buck Folding Hunters to make them one hand openers. Then companies started making them that way. Since ease of opening is only one parameter, in a week I will do a full test and review. I hope it smooths out some by then.
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This has worked on some of my frame locks. Im still waiting on my LE. Get a bottle of REM oil pump spray. Shake it well to mix the Teflon. Spray the whole knife down. It will not hurt the G10 open and close 20-30 times to work the Teflon in the joints. Put the knife in a ziplock bag in open position for 24 hours to keep dust off of it and to allow the Teflon to cure on the blade. Try it won't hurt anything.
 
Now that I think about it, I only have four other framelocks. Most of my other folders are linerlocks, lockbacks, or other locking mechanisms. I never had to do anything to my other framelocks to get them to work properly. I did have one linerlock that took a while to loosen up and get fast, but it was still easily opened with one hand.
 
Just a thought but have you checked to see if when you use the tool to adjust the pivot your actually loosening it and not just turning the whole thing? Might have to use the tool on it's side and the appropriate size allen/torx on the other. From what you've posted it's hard to imagine it's just the detent that is causing it to open that hard.

Mine was stiff and made my thumb sore as well but part of that was me playing around with the knife all weekend long after it first arrived. Since then it's gotten much easier to open though still a stronger detent than about any other knife I own. Not really an issue as I'd rather it be a little tight and wear in as I use it.
 
Badhammer said:
Just a thought but have you checked to see if when you use the tool to adjust the pivot your actually loosening it and not just turning the whole thing? Might have to use the tool on it's side and the appropriate size allen/torx on the other. From what you've posted it's hard to imagine it's just the detent that is causing it to open that hard.

Mine was stiff and made my thumb sore as well but part of that was me playing around with the knife all weekend long after it first arrived. Since then it's gotten much easier to open though still a stronger detent than about any other knife I own. Not really an issue as I'd rather it be a little tight and wear in as I use it.
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Yes, I have a bit for the other side. It is the detent from Hell.
 
Rusty Shackleford said:
You sure about that? :p
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what i meant was a forum members name in big black letters on it so i can be reminded of all the fun we had to see in the now closed hest forums... but yeah thats the real reason sorry but after those threads and the divulging of personal info etc ..i would never spend my money on one of those.. just my opinion
 
I have refrained from any personal attacks or RYP bashing. This thread is about a knife. But I think most folks on this forum just believe that I am too stupid to open a knife. They cannot believe that any knife could be so hard to open. It doesn't seem to be getting any better. I will most likely return the knife if it doesn't improve in a few days.
 
hey if a knife that you spent your hard earned money on is not performing to your liking you have every right to return it... after all its your dollar..

as for bashing ryp i dont know the guy and dont want to.. where i live you are judged by your actions and you gotta give respect to get it .. and imo he doesnt deserve it..

can he design a good knife? no clue that remains to be seen either way not my problem i wont be buying them..
 
Both my LE's are as smooth as glass to open. When I got them I adjusted the pivots of both, put a little super lube on the ball detent's, and bingo..... smooth as glass.

No "thumb damage", no hard opening, just smooth. And I am a 58 year old "old fart"..... nothing but smooth, easy, positive opening of my LE's. ;)

My production model will be here Friday.... I anticipate the same.

Sorry your experience was different. :(
 
I ordered the HEST folder before all the problems occurred on the DPx forum. I don't usually like to get involved in such things and don't really know who did what. I know a lot of folks cancelled their orders and the forum was closed down. In a perfect world, I'd only do business with honorable men. But I did not order the knife from RYP, I ordered it from TKC. I did not want him to be left holding the bag when his dealings with me were honorable. If the knife does not loosen up after a week or so, I will send it to DPx Gear for replacement or repair, and we will see how the customer service is.
 
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