Educate me on the Puukko.

Thanks saltaire! The videos were great; informative, fascinating, and charming all at the same time :thumbup:
 
ivan51 said:
I just got this one today has anyone heard of the maker? good?bad? im a little new to some of the custom puukko makers thanks. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...-Yrjo-Puronvarsi-with-sheath?highlight=puukko
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I think that the knife in your link has only the blade forged by Antti Mäkinen. Handle and sheath really looks like made by someone else is a more Scandinavian style.
Beside this YP-Taonta knives aren't relly crafted by Antti one by one: he puts them together from ready made pieces and machine worked handles. Sheaths are made by Rämäkkö's factory.
The name listed is a misspelling of the finnish "terä timantti", that just means "diamond (section) blade".


@saltaire: puukkos are only Finnish. There are equivalent knives in Sweden, Norway and Denmark but they aren't puukkos.
"Silversteel" is just a nickname for few steels still produced, coming from the gloss polish of the bars. For example in UK silversteel is a nickname for O1, while the silversteel used for puukkos is usually Böhler K510.
 
Frederick89 said:
"Silversteel" is just a nickname for few steels still produced, coming from the gloss polish of the bars. For example in UK silversteel is a nickname for O1, while the silversteel used for puukkos is usually Böhler K510.
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Sorry Frederick, but Silversteel is not a nickname for O1 in the UK. It is a tool steel with its own standardised composition.

Unlike O1 it contains no Tungsten, 'instead' Silicone. It also contains less Chromium and Manganese.

Böhler's K510 is a different recipe again. Although seemingly common place in puukko blade making now, I can't help but think it's this steel that's been nicknamed the silvery one.
 
I still haven't bought myself a proper puukko, but I will obtain one. I was going to start with a less expensive one, but then I think I really like the ringed birch bark handled ones. I'm just taking my time to decide. :)
 
Well, I need to get a puukko handled and made up. You could enter to win it if you haven't already Woodrow.

Keep em peeled for a bump of the relevant thread soon ;)
 
Sorry Frederick, to me, when they all share the same kind of grind and style they're all puukkos or scandi. I don't really care what they may be called in each individual country.
 
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saltaire said:
To me, when they all share the same kind of grind and style they're all puukkos or scandi. I don't really care what they may be called in each individual country.
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Pekka Touominen once said "Every puukko is a knife, but not every knife is a puukko." ;)
 
Call them Scandi knives if you like. Whatever, I really don't care. It's trivia to me.
 
@ Frederick and Rinos, maybe you two experts should ask the Gentleman who started the Thread exactly what he meant by "Educate me on the Puukko?" I'm quite sure that I understood him perfectly.
 
It's not like it's EEEEEVVIILLL to use the same word for different knives. It does complicate communication. Witness this - and almost every other - thread on "scandi" or "puukko."
 
There's no need to be expert. A Scandinavian slöjdkniv and a Finnish puukko, even if similar in general style, do have clear differences. I'm talking about knives made by craftmen, not factory made ones.

For example, puukkos have higher bevels and sheaths with a distinctively wider blade part coming from the liner inside.
That can be seen in the two videos you posted.
 
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I hope you are more accurate in your description than you were in your description regarding "silver steel."
 
saltaire said:
Sorry Frederick, to me, when they all share the same kind of grind and style they're all puukkos or scandi. I don't really care what they may be called in each individual country.
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Each country may have slight nuances that make their knife their own. I'm interested in hearing about those differences as much as I am about performance. I like the history behind different patterns.
 
It sounds like these gentlemen have the answers that will satisfy your interests.
 
Silversteel was indeed created in England as was the nickname too. I've found again where I saw O1 type steel listed as silversteel, sorry for having mixed up things.
http://www.buau.com.au/english/b_2676.htm

Speaking of what I wrote before, the grinding differences can be seen really easily in the videos. There are various blade close up during the axe handle making and the knife can be seen well also in the swedish video, during the refining of the spoon profile.

As for the sheaths, here are a couple of examples from old knives.

Norvegian
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Swedish
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Finnish, particularly wide actally
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There is a great deal of information at this site regarding the Puronvarsi blades. As far as I'm concerned, these "Rhombic" shaped blades are among the top of the knife food chain. The article includes history and about everything else you may be interested in regarding this type of knife. I've built knives using these YP blades. The only thing I can say about the process that I went through is that each blade is a bit different than the other and that it is very difficult and time consuming to get a perfect fit where the bolster meets the blade. It takes allot of hand work with very small files and sometimes it requires grinding the tang in various places to get the bolster to slide over the tang. Silver solder is sometimes required to fill any small gaps that may exist; however, if you take your time you can get a perfect fit.

The Gentleman that wrote this article is considered the leading expert on Scandinavian knives. Hope you enjoy.

http://nordiskaknivar.wordpress.com/2013/01/13/yrjo-puronvarsi-blades-yp-taonta/

Jim
 
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LMAO!!! He is definitely the Guy with the KNOWLEDGE on the subject. No need to look any further...I'll shut my mouth!!! Enough said.
 
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