Elusive Schrades

This knife and the standard Barlow are related in that they are both "regular" or "swell-end" Jacks, Bruce, but the traditional Barlow is under 3 1/2" long whereas this Jack is over 4"!
Related like Mutt and Jeff!:D
Texas, or King Barlow? ;)
-Bruce
 
Bruce, you probably know this stuff, but to keep newcomers from getting confused, I will write a little about Barlows.
Standard Barlows are about 3 3/8" long (closed of course!), although they range out to 3 3/4" or so.
Daddy Barlows are the big ones, usually about 5" in length.
Bob Cargill of Cripple Creek produced one ca. 1980 that was in-between, about 4 1/2", but those are quite rare.
 
That's a beaut Charlie! The early SCC bone rather sweet in itself.

Russell
 
Charlie, that's a stunning jack! And BIG too! What a great (and rare!) find, gotta agree with Russell, that pick bone jigging is beautiful.


Roland, Jake, Vanguard et al, I've somehow missed this thread for the past month and you guys have put up some fantastic knives!

Eric
 
Thanks, Eric!!
We miss your keen, knifely eye around here!!
Come and visit more often!!
 
Bruce, you probably know this stuff, but to keep newcomers from getting confused, I will write a little about Barlows.
Standard Barlows are about 3 3/8" long (closed of course!), although they range out to 3 3/4" or so.
Daddy Barlows are the big ones, usually about 5" in length.
Bob Cargill of Cripple Creek produced one ca. 1980 that was in-between, about 4 1/2", but those are quite rare.
Yes Charlie, I probably did know that, but I have also probably since forgotten it. Thanks for the reminder. ;)
-Bruce
 
Echoing Charlies kind words to Eric..welcome back...havent seen you round these here parts!
Charlie....Im not too sure as to how you do it either!..I search and search and hardly ever come across a knife such as that beautiful Jack you have just shown us-and as you say...to have one over 4 inches!...I love the 4inch knife!
 
Thanks, Duncan. Several people spotted this one, and pushed the price up considerably!
As I recall it wasn't obvious that it was so long!
I'm lucky I put a high snipe on it (I guess:rolleyes:)!
The risks of Ebay!

If anyone knows the patten number, I'd be grateful!!
 
Charlie,

You really brought home a nice jack! Love looking at that long swedge on the pen;)
 
Charlie, is it just the perspective of the photo, or does the long pull on the main actually taper toward the plunge?
I don't believe I've ever seen that before . . . it's kinda neat!
 
Jeff, The knife isn't perfect. I think someone sanded some corrosion off the blade in the plunge line area, affecting the nick. If you look close you can see the plunge (also called a shoulder) is uneven.
Flawed but still a good example IMO.
Good eye!
 
Very nice knife Charlie, looks to be in great shape, really like the bone on that one, nicely jigged. The blade set up looks identical to the Schrade I picked up recently with the long pull on the main and large swedge on the pen, yours is in better shape though.
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Nice photo of a great old Jack, P&G!
Do you mind showing us a pic of the back of the blades and knife??
Also what is the length of that Jack??
 
Charlie the knife you have is bigger, the one I have measures 3.5" closed. Yours also has the arched tang stamp which I think makes it older correct?
Here is a scan of the back side.
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Thanks, P&G!
The older knives seem to have a more pronounced access swedge on the back of the pen blade.
That baby is no spring chicken! (Geezers get to say stuff like that!:D)
Nice old Jack!!

Are the liners coined, or is that pixelation I am looking at??
 
Thanks Charlie, this one has been around a while, but its still got plenty of life in it. Liners are not coined just a low quality scan/scanner. ;)
 
I went down to my P.O. Box yesterday, hoping this knife would be there! I am not familiar with the pattern, and this is the first one I have seen marked Schrade Cut Co..
Of course it is a "regular" Jack, where the end widens or swells. But it is a hair or two over Four Inches long!! Therein lies the rarity!!
And it has all the hallmarks of being an oldie. Arched tang stamps, nice swedge work, and wonderful random-jigged bone like you see on the older pieces from the Walden area; Walden, New York, and Schrade Cutleries shared a bone handle shop, and you will see similarities in their jigging if you study the old knives. Some call it "pick bone".
Without further delay, check this sucker out!!

Whoa Nellie. I'd say you landed a keeper there my friend! I really like this old beauty.


Charlie, is it just the perspective of the photo, or does the long pull on the main actually taper toward the plunge?
I don't believe I've ever seen that before . . . it's kinda neat!

I've seen a very few really old knives, not necessarily Schrade Cut Co, where a thin pull actually runs right past the plunge itself. Maybe on Hammer Brand, New York Knife Company knives. In some cases the pull appeared to be tapered not so much by design, but more because of a more rudimentary process.
 
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Well the back edge of the blade (the spine?) is nice and straight, and of uniform thickness, so you might be right, Hal. Just a rudimentary stamping or cut??

Glad you like the knife - still looking for a pattern number. . . . . .??
 
Here's a response from a great Schrade man, and onetime official Schrade historian;
Regarding your knife I do not have a model number for you it is a very rare early piece. It is not quite an english jack and not quite a granddad barlow. That stamp is 1903 till mid 20tys . There are a lot of unusual patterns during that period. Considered what was called a large Jack. I also have no doubt that it is the real thing and quite nice certainly correct to the period. I just checked most of the various catalogues of the era and found no exact pattern style. It incorporates the bolster of the english jack and barlow with a hunters clip. Niced piece sorry I could not help more. Stay Well LT[unquote]
 
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