Good Eric from Shepard Custom Creations is Good in my Book

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Hmmmm. OP, thanks for sticking up for a proven liar. You deserve whatever you get from Eric. Again, you have been played and by stating here he is good you are now culpable in his actions and sticking it to others. Now you attack forum members. Unreal.
 
emjay4248 said:
It would be a good idea to make a category separate from the GBU And list the people that have been problems so it is easily accessed by members of the forum. Then members can go to the GBU and read about them. You guys can be working on that instead of coming up with 5 pages of commentary.
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That place does exist, it is one of two subforums right here in the GBU fittingly called The Hall of Shame. It is home for the scammers and the folks that repeatedly do not do the right thing.

You posted a thread about your negative experience with a seller/maker with missed deliveries and poor communication which had been going on for months. A few days after this thread is posted he reached out to you and now all is well. Ok, great. So he did what he should have done all along.

The problem that a lot of the folks are having with this situation is that we've seen it before with this member, and if I recall not just once. When you erase the original post that highlights the problems you had and change the title to "This Guy Is Good To Deal With" it does not truthfully represent how this ordeal went down and gives a false perception of how a future deal with this member may go down.

Don't get me wrong, people do deserve a chance to correct their behavior but this wont happen if their poor practices are swept under the rug once you've been made whole.

I've always enjoyed seeing his work and have recommended him in the past when people ask who can do great scale work. I hate to say it but I can't consciously do that now with the same shenanigans happening every few months or so.
 
I have a question. It probably will best be answered by a mod, but if anyone knows for sure, please feel free to reply.

So emjay4248 has made up his mind to give Eric at ShepardCC a pass on his piss poor behavior and business model. Is it permissable to start another thread here on emjay4248 about how he comes here and whines to us and then deletes his original post and comments about Shepard CC so that nobody can see what the issues were in his own words? What I am getting at is this: Emjay4248's original post spoke to Eric's character and poor business practices. Now he is singing Eric's praises, even ordering more work from him (at a discount maybe???). That he changes his mind so easily and on a whim when HE brought the issue here speaks to his character, and frankly whether he and his viewpoint can be trusted. Is that something that can be mentioned in a new thread here?
 
It's a never ending story with this provider and with all the bad gb&u posts about him. He then gets pressured to provid the service he was paid for because of the post. Then offering freebies to change the treads title and gets to scam others agian and agian and agian and agian. And people don't know because they read bs thread titles like this one. How long or how much crap does it take to earn your spot in the hall of shame? A lot of members here aren't rich and to be used as a loan store is kinda shitty
 
on_the_edge said:
I have a question. It probably will best be answered by a mod, but if anyone knows for sure, please feel free to reply.

So emjay4248 has made up his mind to give Eric at ShepardCC a pass on his piss poor behavior and business model. Is it permissable to start another thread here on emjay4248 about how he comes here and whines to us and then deletes his original post and comments about Shepard CC so that nobody can see what the issues were in his own words? What I am getting at is this: Emjay4248's original post spoke to Eric's character and poor business practices. Now he is singing Eric's praises, even ordering more work from him (at a discount maybe???). That he changes his mind so easily and on a whim when HE brought the issue here speaks to his character, and frankly whether he and his viewpoint can be trusted. Is that something that can be mentioned in a new thread here?
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I was just thinking the same exact thing.
 
Funny about the redwmption post. I still havn't heard a peep about the refund I demanded after 5 months of nothing after my down payment. So the whole "i have never stolen or ripped anyone off" statement, I beg to differ. I was ripped off and stolen from. Anyone stopping in this thread please ignore the title and listen to the masses.
 
So this provider never made right with you? Please tell me you have texts, emails, or any kind of communication with him to back this up? Not saying it didn't happen but he has spewed so much bs to so many. I hope once he reads this post and make you right and offers you freebies you don't change your time like the op. And if this happened why no bad feed back on his traders info here agian just asking.
 
BrentD86 said:
Funny about the redwmption post. I still havn't heard a peep about the refund I demanded after 5 months of nothing after my down payment. So the whole "i have never stolen or ripped anyone off" statement, I beg to differ. I was ripped off and stolen from. Anyone stopping in this thread please ignore the title and listen to the masses.
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on_the_edge said:
I have a question. It probably will best be answered by a mod, but if anyone knows for sure, please feel free to reply.

So emjay4248 has made up his mind to give Eric at ShepardCC a pass on his piss poor behavior and business model. Is it permissable to start another thread here on emjay4248 about how he comes here and whines to us and then deletes his original post and comments about Shepard CC so that nobody can see what the issues were in his own words? What I am getting at is this: Emjay4248's original post spoke to Eric's character and poor business practices. Now he is singing Eric's praises, even ordering more work from him (at a discount maybe???). That he changes his mind so easily and on a whim when HE brought the issue here speaks to his character, and frankly whether he and his viewpoint can be trusted. Is that something that can be mentioned in a new thread here?
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The thing is that new guys don't know how anything works, sad;y. So if emjay retracts his statements in lieu of more stuff for free or a discount, that is his problem. If the crap hits the fan again, I certainly don't want to see anymore whiny threads about the same thing from the same person. The fact that a maker/craftsman is listed here in a poor light shows a lot, despite the edits. We have literally dozens and dozens of sheath makers, kydex benders, etc that have a good deal of respect for their craft, themselves, and their customers. This is a case of buyer beware, as always. When people are too lazy to research the people they are buying from, they do so at their own peril.
So, a thread about emjay? As long as it is not insulting and sticks to the actual facts there should be no issues. Pro tip, quote the first post in a conversation to prevent the OP from backtracking on silly crap like this.


gonebad395 gonebad395 did you ever start your own thread about your issue? I don't remember off the bat.
 
BrentD86 said:
Funny about the redwmption post. I still havn't heard a peep about the refund I demanded after 5 months of nothing after my down payment. So the whole "i have never stolen or ripped anyone off" statement, I beg to differ. I was ripped off and stolen from. Anyone stopping in this thread please ignore the title and listen to the masses.
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BrentD86 BrentD86 , please consider starting your own thread here in GBU about recidivist ShepardCC and what has occurred up until now. He appears incapable of doing right by his customers unless his back is to the wall, and another warning to our fellow members would probably get that ball rolling.
 
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on_the_edge said:
I have a question. It probably will best be answered by a mod, but if anyone knows for sure, please feel free to reply.

So emjay4248 has made up his mind to give Eric at ShepardCC a pass on his piss poor behavior and business model. Is it permissable to start another thread here on emjay4248 about how he comes here and whines to us and then deletes his original post and comments about Shepard CC so that nobody can see what the issues were in his own words? What I am getting at is this: Emjay4248's original post spoke to Eric's character and poor business practices. Now he is singing Eric's praises, even ordering more work from him (at a discount maybe???). That he changes his mind so easily and on a whim when HE brought the issue here speaks to his character, and frankly whether he and his viewpoint can be trusted. Is that something that can be mentioned in a new thread here?
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I see what you did there...;^)
 
It appears to me the OP was severely manipulated by this shepherdcc guy and somewhere along the process felt he was justified in turning his back towards the community that helped come to his defense in the first place.

It's almost like trickle down manipulation. Why can't a Mod just repost the original comment for posterity? I understand this would be inappropriate in almost every other circumstance, but I would think justified under this specific case. I'm sure they can see the edits.
 
emjay4248 said:
I won't be crying to you. I am a grown up, You sound like a 12 year old child. In the scheme of things minor problems like this are not suppose to be life changing. It is still my to chose my words and deal with the outcome
Somehow you all have found the time in your very busy lives to turn this issue into a mountain. Look at his Ebay reviews. It shows that he might be able to improve himself.
I cannot believe that you guys have devoted this much time over this many days on this issue. I have told you that if I run into problems with Eric I will be sure to let all of you know about it and I promise I will not be asking for your help. Its not as though he has been the only one to have been so late on deliveries. He may be insanely late on some of his orders but from my experience with him He eventually comes through.From what I have read in the Good Bad and Ugly there are knife makers that have screwed people for thousands of dollars and I don't see you guys running to rescue anybody. It would be a good idea to make a category separate from the GBU And list the people that have been problems so it is easily accessed by members of the forum. Then members can go to the GBU and read about them. You guys can be working on that instead of coming up with 5 pages of commentary. I took back my comment about him being a thief because I had received all of my items well done and complete. This will be my last response to this matter.
I do promise to post any positive or negative in The Good the Bad and the Ugly. I have other unpleasant things to say to all of you but due to the fact that I am a grown up I will reserve those comments.
Sincerely
Mike Joseph
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E emjay4248

Mike,
One thing to keep in mind is that none of this would have happened if you hadn't started this thread to begin with, right? With all due respect, you haven't been here but a minute and have not had the chance to see what has been done. You can be as cynical, sarcastic, and indignant as you like, but as soon as someone starts a thread here, the topic is open for discussion. I'm not defending the trollish nature of some posting that happens, including yours.

I won't bother explaining examples of the overwhelming generosity of some of the members here towards people that have gotten themselves neck deep in shit. Or how some members have gone way, way out of their way at their own expense and time to help complete strangers. I'm sure you wouldn't be interested in any of that. The thing is that this is your money, your time, and your problem. No one here is going to suffer a loss if you get burned.

I've gotten consistent messages in the past regarding this craftsman having issues not delivering on time, and taking money up front and not completing a deal the way we all expect. If you are happy with the service you are getting, great. It's just a little bothersome for some to read a thread where the OP does a 180 and changes their mind after possibly being told a potential fish story and promised extra items or whatever.

Personally, I won't lose a minute of sleep over it. At the end of the day, we are all responsible for the things we do say, and chose. I only ask you quit the passive aggressive type of comments "I'm an adult, I will reserve all the comments I have for you all, etc." There is no need for that mess, the moderators including myself have a very low tolerance for this kind of thing. With all that in mind, I"m locking this thread. If other people want to start a thread on their own experiences with ShepardCC that are based on facts and actual events and not imagined or worst case scenarios, then please start a thread and post accordingly. The instructions are at the top of the subforum for those that are not aware or still new here.
 
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