ESEE .22 Survival Rifle Death Chat

Sometimes I get it right! :D

I grew up rolling squirrels and cottontails with a little .20 Ga. Spanish Double-Barrel Shotgun and a couple little bolt-action .22s that were nothing to write home about. I got tired of picking pellets out of my food and stopped using shotguns for the most part when I was a teenager. I also used a Sheridan Blue Streak 5mm Air Rifle a lot and wristrockets probably as much as all the rest of them combined.

There are just a few simple tricks to getting squirrels and rabbits consistently. Rabbits, generally speaking, run in a large half circle and usually when you jump them you can cut the circle in half by walking a straight line and you meet them where they are going to be. Unless they are really spooked and go into heavy cover, they will generally do that.

If you find a good squirrel tree and you can find a small shrub or sapling on one side of it, you can tie a piece of cord to that shrub or sapling and then go back on the other side of the tree and sit. If the squirrels are really cagey you can fake them out by pulling the string to shake the sapling and they will run to the opposite side, your side, of the tree and you can kill'em. :D

Anyone interested in taking small game in a survival situation that wants to make it easier on themselves can buy one call to use that will help them. A Hawk Call. When a hawk screams, rabbits and squirrels tend to freeze in place.

I can call squirrels by making a cutting sound, clicking/clacking the inside of the cheek with tongue and teeth, it's really loud when you learn to do it well and it will bring them in. By the time they figured out the mistake they made, they're dead! :D

I have an old Squirrel Call that has a tube with a reed in it and a bellows on one end that makes more than cutting sounds and I use that one, too.
 
What about scopes for it? The only time I fired a 10/22 my friend was trying to zero a scope in, and never really got it zeroed too well. Couldn't shoot a soda box at 100 yards; I wish I could have tried the iron sights.

I have mixed feelings on scopes, but one that you could attach/reattach quickly and keep your zero would be awesome.
 
I am a big fan of good Iron sights ,
most factory Irons suck ,if it is a bug out rifle then I want the best iron sights I can afford , I'd never add optics to my bug out /pack away gun
 
I am a big fan of good Iron sights ,
most factory Irons suck ,if it is a bug out rifle then I want the best iron sights I can afford , I'd never add optics to my bug out /pack away gun

which is exactly why my pack gun is a 410....don't need to be carlos hathcock to put food on the table with a shotgun....i don't mind picking pellets as long as i have a full stomach a short time later...lol
 
I'm currently telling myself I don't NEED the CZ 452 "trainer" version at my local Gander. My 10/22 and Browning .22 auto are just fine. I don't NEED a bolt .22. I don't NEED a bolt .22.
 
What about scopes for it? The only time I fired a 10/22 my friend was trying to zero a scope in, and never really got it zeroed too well. Couldn't shoot a soda box at 100 yards; I wish I could have tried the iron sights.

If you do choose a scope, get a rugged one. Don't fall into the trap of thinking, "It's just a .22, how much can it recoil?" You will be buying it for taking a beating, not necessarily a beating from recoil.

A much better choice, in my opinion, is a Williams (Receiver) Peep Sight if you can get them for whatever it is that you own.

Some people might not believe this, and I don't think my eyes are good enough to do this now, but when I was a kid, I had about a 90+% hit rate on frogs...in the eye, with a Williams Peep Sight on a Sheridan Blue Streak 5mm Pellet Rifle. I mean, you're not talking about shots over, say, 40 feet, but it's a pneumatic and not spring air so it is not as consistent, but those Williams Peeps are awesome!

The great thing about it is, in this realm, if you bust a Williams Peep Sight, well, you don't have anything to worry about because you probably busted the rifle up so bad it won't work anyway. :D
 
Dude an ESEE folding 10/22 stock sounds awesome. I just got an old school aluminum trigger group for $30 that I'm going to slap in mine in the morning. It has a WAY better trigger pull than the polymer trigger group thats on it now.

Yeah, but I'm hoping it's for the Compact model. http://www.ruger.com/products/1022Compact/models.html

As far as I know, stocks in production now that fit the standard 10/22 models wont fit the compact.
 
Yeah, you know, everyone has to mess around with .22 LR loads. :)

I always headspace my rimfire rounds. You'd be surprised at what a difference it makes in the POI, group size, etc. A buddy of mine built up a ruger 22/45 with a paclite aluminum barrel and SO-LOW mounts with a cheap red dot. We routinely shoot 1" orange target stickers ragged. We go for the Championship of the World with one mag each at the end of almost every range session. By the way, I headspace the rounds using a .223 casing:jerkit: and a mic.
 
Yeah, but I'm hoping it's for the Compact model. http://www.ruger.com/products/1022Compact/models.html

As far as I know, stocks in production now that fit the standard 10/22 models wont fit the compact.

i'm not sure why they wouldn't... but i'm just looking at the pics.

looks like it has a 16" barrel instead of the typical 19" and no barrel band. but i've seen a lot of guys leave the barrel band off and sometimes modify the stock to eliminate te step on the forend.

as long as the barrel taper is the same, i'd think it should work.

there's so much out there for the standard 10/22 that it would kinda be a shame for it to not work in any other stock.

i'd suggest checking rimfirecentral.com for more info. someone over there should know, if not now, soon.
 
Dear Sirs,

Well, Xmas has come and gone and I did not receive my ESEE survival rifle as promised. Where the heck is it?

Also, can you tell me; from the photos of the prototype it appears that it may be lacking in the strength department. Don't ask me if I am referring to tensile strength, recoil strength, or impact strength (when used as a baton), because I don't know.

I do know that the lack of strength I am talking about is the lack of strength that will earn me a free unit to review here (however dimly) after I have sufficiently completed making a fool of myself by complaining here publicly to the owner of your company about a product that I have not yet seen. (After all, you did not return my voice mail message that I placed to you on Christmas Day).

One thing I know for certain, it had better be the right color, or else I am really going to throw a fit.

I have seen other members get "Johnny on the Spot" service in other sub-forums, and I hope you see that plainly this is a golden opportunity for you to finally earn the good reputation that you feel you deserve.

Your immediate reply will be much appreciated, because my time, of course, is exceedingly precious.

Thank you in advance for your speedy response, and good day to you,

Happy Holidays, ESEE fans.

pete
 
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Hear ye, hear ye! Heed my internet words and quiver under the power of my forum fists of fury! If that rifle does not ship to my FFL by the time the clock strikes midnight December 31, 2010, I will just wait longer!!!!!!

Adam, you just made me spray my coffee just missing my computer!!! That was f-ing funny!:D
 
I'm currently telling myself I don't NEED the CZ 452 "trainer" version at my local Gander. My 10/22 and Browning .22 auto are just fine. I don't NEED a bolt .22. I don't NEED a bolt .22.

I like the 452 alot also but instead I bought a CZ 513 ($300) & a Charles Daly Zastava .22lr ($225), either one is a great alternative to the 452.
 
I would LOVE a folding stock for my Ruger 10/22 Compact!!! I've been wanting to dump the wood stock and lighten up the whole thing setting it up for my bug out bag. I hadn't been able to find a folding stock for one though so I just hadn't done anything with it yet. Looks like it's time to start re-building!:D:D:D
 
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