Etiquette when posting in for sale ads

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I was recently “put on blast” in a for sale thread. I do not feel I was wrong but can understand why this person did it, and If I am in the wrong I would like to know so I and possibly others don’t make the same mistake again.

I am not going to list the thread or call anyone out this is purely educational so here is a quick scenario recap...the sales thread was for an item and the price was $160 which was a good fair price and the item sold quickly. The seller said he was open to offers so i thought what the heck and I was the first person to reply and offered $150 directly in the sales thread...A random person not buying anything posted next saying that low balling in a sell’s thread is low class.

That brings me to my question on etiquette... is it ever ok to make an offer directly in a sales thread? Please note this forum is unique in that you have varying levels of membership and capabilities(Let’s not get into that can of worms about well you should be a paying member blah blah blah). If a person cannot contact the seller via pm and no email was given what are the options of the buyer? If a seller states they are open to offers but doesn’t provide an email doesn’t that open the door for an offer in the thread? Heck even if they provide an email if they say they are open to offers what is the harm?

I can see if I did offer half price or something ridiculously low how that’s disrespectfully. I just didn’t feel that $10 off asking price was a low ball offer and if they already stated they are open to offers what was the harm.

I have sold many things on countless other forums and never got mad about an offer or seen anyone get bent like this guy about posting an offer. If it truly was a low ball offer or the seller didn’t say open to offers I could see why people would be upset. But in this case all the seller has to do is say no thanks or let’s see if I get a better offer hit me up in a few. No harm no foul right?

I feel it’s much more disrespectful to post in a thread without any intent of buying the product in question.

Let me know your thoughts or opinions. Maybe my wife is right and I’m just an idiot who is always wrong!
 
Did this happen here? You're not supposed to make any off-topic comments on a sales thread here, only questions or offers. So the guy ripping on you was wrong. That being said, I personally would never make a reduced offer in the thread because it puts into question the seller's original pricing. I wouldn't call it "low class" it's not that serious.
 
I’m all for getting the best price on anything you can purchase. That being said we have rules in the exchange and the person that spoke out violated them. Asking if you were right or wrong is cool but you gave enough information about the thread in question for everyone to find. And in a not pointing fingers called the person out that made a comment about you in his view llowballing the seller.So it’s only fair he knows you brought this up. So charlie2times charlie2times should be notified.
 
lieferung said:
I personally would never make a reduced offer in the thread because it puts into question the seller's original pricing. I wouldn't call it "low class" it's not that serious.
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Interesting, so even if a seller states they are open to offers you still feel it is not a good practice?

gonebad395 said:
you gave enough information about the thread in question for everyone to find. And in a not pointing fingers called the person out that made a comment about you in his view llowballing the seller.So it’s only fair he knows you brought this up. So charlie2times charlie2times should be notified.
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True maybe I should have just gave the info and copied him in. I may be missing something so getting all the info is never bad. Like I said though this was never meant to be a finger pointing thread just educational on my part and possibly for others in the same boat
 
I buy and sell a lot of knives. Many times, I will get a PM where the guy says he'd like to buy my knife, and wonders if I would take ten bucks less... I can either say okay or perhaps lose a sale.
I guess the fellow, in this case, not being a GOLD member and being unable to contact the seller, could have posted that he'd like to make an offer, and ask the seller to contact him.
But I wouldn't give this guy a bad time. Ten bucks less is NOT a bad deal. I've been offered a heck of a lot less...
 
If it helps, I always try to make an offer out of the thread if possible(email). That's not always an option, though.

That being said, I don't think you did anything wrong.
 
Did I violate the rules? Yes. Will I do it again if somebody tries to lowball a knife being sold at a heavily discounted price? Probably.

The seller said PM him, so, either pay the $10.00 fee to become a basic member so you can communicate, or, simple solution, the non paying member can ask the seller to E-mail him after he provides his mail info in the sales thread.

Sales thread link below.

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/fs-zt-0562cf-spyderco-karahawk-mcusta-mc15d.1548966/

Link to buying rules:

https://www.bladeforums.com/help/exchange-rules/

We BOTH violated rule #5

"Do not post in a person's thread unless you have an implicit interest in buying the item. Posts like, "Nice knife!", "Why is the price so high/low?", "I wish I had funds" are not allowed. This means absolutely no commentary or feedback in someone's sales thread. Seriously, if you stomp on someone's ad, your account can and will be locked. The only exception to this is in the Knife Makers Market areas (if the maker/craftsman requests and welcomes feedback). Save questions and offers for email rather than cluttering the thread."
 
Kustom Kutz said:
Interesting, so even if a seller states they are open to offers you still feel it is not a good practice?



True maybe I should have just gave the info and copied him in. I may be missing something so getting all the info is never bad. Like I said though this was never meant to be a finger pointing thread just educational on my part and possibly for others in the same boat
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I think what he did is bs and he seems to do it a lot there is the tread you are talking about and these
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/sold-mt-utx-70-d-e.1543694/#post-17734226
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads...derer-viper-steelcraft.1539616/#post-17682662
And if you look in his post history he is quick to let a person know a price has to be added to their sales thread or they are posting in the wrong section. So he knows the rules just seems like he likes to call people out in sales threads like the rules don’t apply to him.
 
"And if you look in his post history he is quick to let a person know a price has to be added to their sales thread or they are posting in the wrong section."

That's called helping people out so they can sell their items in the correct section.

"So he knows the rules just seems like he likes to call people out in sales threads like the rules don’t apply to him."

Helping people list in the correct section seems logical.
 
charlie2times said:
Did I violate the rules? Yes. Will I do it again if somebody tries to lowball a knife being sold at a heavily discounted price? Probably.

The seller said PM him, so, either pay the $10.00 fee to become a basic member so you can communicate, or, simple solution, the non paying member can ask the seller to E-mail him after he provides his mail info in the sales thread.

Sales thread link below.

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/fs-zt-0562cf-spyderco-karahawk-mcusta-mc15d.1548966/

Link to buying rules:

https://www.bladeforums.com/help/exchange-rules/

We BOTH violated rule #5

"Do not post in a person's thread unless you have an implicit interest in buying the item. Posts like, "Nice knife!", "Why is the price so high/low?", "I wish I had funds" are not allowed. This means absolutely no commentary or feedback in someone's sales thread. Seriously, if you stomp on someone's ad, your account can and will be locked. The only exception to this is in the Knife Makers Market areas (if the maker/craftsman requests and welcomes feedback). Save questions and offers for email rather than cluttering the thread."
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gonebad395 said:
I think what he did is bs and he seems to do it a lot there is the tread you are talking about and these
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/sold-mt-utx-70-d-e.1543694/#post-17734226
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads...derer-viper-steelcraft.1539616/#post-17682662
And if you look in his post history he is quick to let a person know a price has to be added to their sales thread or they are posting in the wrong section. So he knows the rules just seems like he likes to call people out in sales threads like the rules don’t apply to him.
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You violated the rules the op of this thread did not violate the rules he showed interest in the knife and made a offer. You made a comment and violated the rules by making a comment with no intentions of buying the knife in your comment.
 
"You violated the rules the op of this thread did not violate the rules he showed interest in the knife and made a offer."

Per the RULES: "Save questions and offers for email rather than cluttering the thread."


So yeah, OP did violate the rules.
 
The op of this thread can’t pm and the seller said to pm with offers. So he made a offer the way he could. YOU just decided to be the forsale police and said screw the rules. The seller can report the clutter no need for you to chime in when your post didn’t even have a hint of buying interest.
 
Here is the rule:"Do not post in a person's thread unless you have an implicit interest in buying the item. Posts like, "Nice knife!", "Why is the price so high/low?", "I wish I had funds" are not allowed. This means absolutely no commentary or feedback in someone's sales thread. Seriously, if you stomp on someone's ad, your account can and will be locked. The only exception to this is in the Knife Makers Market areas (if the maker/craftsman requests and welcomes feedback). Save questions and offers for email rather than cluttering the thread"
Preferably you would make your offer in private. I have made offers in threads when there was no way to privately contact the seller, but I add my apology for doing so and reason right in with it. May not be proper, but the best I could come up with at the time. Seller should provide contact info, but we sometime forget not every one can PM(at least I do) The other party was wrong to call you out-both improper for the thread and it wasn't what I would call a low ball offer, since they were soliciting offers.
 
"The op of this thread can’t pm and the seller said to pm with offers."

Then OP needs to purchase a membership if he wants to communicate with people asking for PM's.

"So he made a offer the way he could."

I already pointed out the obvious solution, OP should have provided his E-mail in the sales thread and asked the seller to contact him.

"YOU just decided to be the forsale police and said screw the rules. The seller can report the clutter no need for you to chime in when your post didn’t even have a hint of buying interest"

Valid points, hypocritical that you can't grasp the fact that the OP violated the rules as well and you only call me out on it. Try harder.
 
Ok I’ll side with you the op broke the rules also if it makes you happy. No need to try harder I admitted he did just in the Text above.
So you feel justified in calling people out in numerous threads because they broke the rules first? I tell my kids all the time just because he did it doesn’t make it ok for you to do it. Now in your above post you said yep you broke the rule and in a nut shell you’ll do it agian. Just want to say way to go taking the forum rules into your own hands and crap all over what the owner of the forums wants. I’m sure he and the mods appreciate you telling them their rules don’t matter to you and you will do as you see fit.
 
charlie2times said:
Did I violate the rules? Yes. Will I do it again if somebody tries to lowball a knife being sold at a heavily discounted price? Probably.

The seller said PM him, so, either pay the $10.00 fee to become a basic member so you can communicate, or, simple solution, the non paying member can ask the seller to E-mail him after he provides his mail info in the sales thread.

Sales thread link below.

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/fs-zt-0562cf-spyderco-karahawk-mcusta-mc15d.1548966/

Link to buying rules:

https://www.bladeforums.com/help/exchange-rules/

We BOTH violated rule #5

"Do not post in a person's thread unless you have an implicit interest in buying the item. Posts like, "Nice knife!", "Why is the price so high/low?", "I wish I had funds" are not allowed. This means absolutely no commentary or feedback in someone's sales thread. Seriously, if you stomp on someone's ad, your account can and will be locked. The only exception to this is in the Knife Makers Market areas (if the maker/craftsman requests and welcomes feedback). Save questions and offers for email rather than cluttering the thread."
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I made an offer to buy a good. How is that violating the rules or not showing implicit interest?

From the looks of your profile and posts It seems like you are the one constantly cluttering threads and cap
 
I think there are several offers made in sale threads ... it sometimes is the only option even having a membership because some people let their mailbox sit full and you can not pm them ...

as long as he has interest and wasn't offering the sellers half his asking price there is no harm in it ... $10.00 off an asking price is not a lowball offer ... and the seller can simply say ty but no at this time and move on ...

and if there was harm in it I do not see a moderator badge by your nic so who made you the sale thread police?

If you don't want offers in your sale threads then state do not make offers in this sale thread ... but make sure you have room in your mail box or that you can pm the person asking you to ...
 
Kustom Kutz said:
Interesting, so even if a seller states they are open to offers you still feel it is not a good practice?
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My reasoning is this: if the seller openly accepts lesser offers it negatively affects their image to other potential buyers, either by showing they're easy to haggle with or they knowingly priced their goods higher than they thought it was worth. Is it a super big deal? No. But I'd rather just take the extra step of discretion and let the seller's asking price stand publicly and make any offers privately.
 
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