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Eyyyyyy--I designed this axe!

Discussion in 'Axe, Tomahawk, & Hatchet Forum' started by FortyTwoBlades, Nov 12, 2020.

  1. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    The partnership came up specifically because they were looking for a designer to help them out. Their parent company normally does contract wood manufacturing where a client comes to them with pre-designed parts so they aren't used to having to design stuff themselves, so when I reached out to them regarding what I observed to be a lack of direction with their already-existing design they gladly took me on due to my experience and familiarity with both American and Italian design and the partners they were already established with, so it was a good match.

    Yes, it helps pop chips when chopping and acts as a ramp through the bit/eye transition during splitting.
     
  2. EngrSorenson

    EngrSorenson Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Jul 3, 2019
    Well, it's official- I've put it on my Christmas list. Lets see what happens.
     
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  3. unwisefool

    unwisefool Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    Ooooh a hatchet in that style would be oh so cool
     
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  4. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    I agree! :D
     
  5. Bigfattyt

    Bigfattyt Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 23, 2007
    I was thinking, would a standard straight pick or mattock handle slide through? If so....my local hardware stores always have a stack of them. Seems like they should?
     
  6. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    Can't confirm 100% BUT I'm pretty confident that it would. You'd just need to rasp the end down to fit.
     
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  7. E.D.C.

    E.D.C. Gold Member Gold Member

    392
    Nov 7, 2016

    Thanks for the great reply. I wish you luck with the axe. I hope to pick one up
     
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  8. Old Axeman

    Old Axeman Basic Member Basic Member

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    Jan 10, 2015
    From what I can see, on paper, there is a lot to like with this axe. I like the bit; I like the slip fit eye; I almost like the pole; and I dont like the haft. The pole would be an easy fix. There is a little too much mass behind the rear of the eye and there is way too much chamfer on the rear of the poll. On a hard poll I like a flat face with just a little chamfer. For me-a little shorter poll with a flat hard face and a small chamfer. Now the haft-I would want 26"-28" straight haft with a butt swell and vertical grain orientation only.

    Now I do not usually like tools that try to do too many things. But, there are times when I do see a need for combination tools, like a leatherman tool in your pocket. In this case, a axe that you carry on your person or on your pony when traveling in the wilderness. I mean actual wilderness, not some weekend wilderness camping trip. Something like the Bob Marshall, Great Bear, and Scapegoat Wilderness complex (look it up). I almost always carried a Boys Axe, but this axe, with a slip fit haft, could be a great wilderness axe.

    All in all-good job on this axe. I hope , in person, it is everything it appears to be on paper.
     
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  9. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    Looking at the dimensions of a pick eye to confirm, it does look like you should be able to pretty easily make a longer handle out of a pick axe handle, as I expected. I was away from the office (and went through a car accident where I got rear-ended by a big truck--not to worry; I'm okay) so I wasn't able to get those details until now. But yes I think if they release a 28" handle it'll be a homerun, and a 16" will make a handy crafting size, so fingers crossed I can convince 'em to do it. The original specifications called for less chamfering and I may be able to get them to lessen it in future runs, but provides about 1-1/2"x5/8" of flat unchamfered surface currently. Part of the reason for the poll being made narrower and deeper was to help provide enough balance for the bit without increasing the total weight too much, and minimizing the chances of obstructions causing impacts against the neck of the handle when used for pounding (more of a side benefit vs. the balance part, but still a consideration.)
     
  10. Bigfattyt

    Bigfattyt Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 23, 2007
    I've hand whittled hickory pick handles down more than once to fit a long socket poll axe... throwing an axe like that tends to be rough on handles.
    Whittling hickory down from the size of a pick handle makes for sore thumbs.
    [​IMG]
     
  11. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    Microplane rasp and/or rotary shaper, bud! Saves a TON of time. The rotary shaper is like a mechanical beaver and can be smoothed down with the Microplane hand rasp, followed by scraping smooth. It's how I shave down scythe snath blanks from the curvy baseball bats that Seymour sends me.
     
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  12. Bigfattyt

    Bigfattyt Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 23, 2007

    Well....I have a 2x72 grinder now.... with a 36 belt and 3000 rpm.... I also have a few hand saws including a silky arborist saw, and a radial saw now. I'm not likely to have to whittle the entire thing down now......but I might for kicks!!
     
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  13. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    The nice thing with the Microplanes is you get chips--not dust! But yeah, those will speed things along plenty!
     
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  14. EngrSorenson

    EngrSorenson Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Jul 3, 2019
    I like to see Bernie’s impressions! Nothing like an old school guy’s opinion. I agree with the overall assessment- this might be the wilderness axe.

    I could see whittling my own 28” haft out of a pick handle, no problem. The bonus is its easy to put the original handle back- I like that.
     
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  15. BJE

    BJE

    Apr 12, 2006
    It one of the best looking axes I have ever seen, it also seems well thought out in design. I have to get one.
     
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  16. herisson

    herisson Apple slicing rocking chair dweller Platinum Member

    Mar 11, 2013
    I tried to land an order on Friday with one simple question to WOOX's chat : do they ship to Europe ? They are still out of the office today so I was led to do some more digging on their site. Found it : no international shipping. Too bad. The Forte remains on my Christmas list, though.
     
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  17. EngrSorenson

    EngrSorenson Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Jul 3, 2019
    Haha, there's something ironic about this, considering the build of this axe. Why don't they just get Prandi to ship you the head (From Italy) and you can make your own handle? :D
     
  18. herisson

    herisson Apple slicing rocking chair dweller Platinum Member

    Mar 11, 2013
    Ha, ha .... Good idea ! I actually sifted through Prandi's offering (with this sneaky idea in the back of my head) but there is nothing to be had that resembles the Forte. Now, that you have risen the thought, I will post them a demand for a Forte head and haft the axe myself. I'll try it. Nice slip trough axes are also made by Hatchas Jauregui, but once again none comes close to the slick design FortyTwoBlades landed.
     
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  19. EngrSorenson

    EngrSorenson Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Jul 3, 2019
    Spurred by Benjamin's Italian-American offering, I've been looking at the actual Italian designs and been left wanting. They look neat, like an axe of older generations, and I'm sure they work, too- I don't think Benjamin would vouch for something unproven. I think I've become accustomed to having a pronounced poll and beefy eye.

    Benjamin's design warrants attention because it does really Americanize the Italian design.
     
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  20. herisson

    herisson Apple slicing rocking chair dweller Platinum Member

    Mar 11, 2013
    Prandi (and Rinaldi) make beautiful specialized axes. But I don't see myself rambling around with three axes on my belt ! FortyTwoBlades offers a versatile alternative which even has a poll ! This really get's me going (although the poll looks a bit small in hitting surface).
     
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