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[Daniel Fairly Knives]

more late night shenannigans, http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...oal-accomplished!!!!!?p=11381593#post11381593

i made it over to the chat tonight for the first time, lots of fun! good talking with jonnymac, RyanW, Nick Wheeler and the gang.

off to bed.


-Xander

Man! Killer stuff with the stones, that is an awesome thread. I still want to know what that greenish one is.

Chat is awesome, I almost made it last night but was way too tired. I need to stop by...

My shop is nearly painted, I'm going back to do more here in a minute...

 

[fast14riot]

Thanx man, I want to know what it is too. I can go get the chunk it came from and see if anyone local can test it or id it for me. The grey one is strange, to me at least. Doesn't look like the slates I'm used to, and it doesn't look like the adobe or clay types either. It looks like wood grain, complete with rings on the end.


-Xander

 

[bigcountry1315]

Good morning men.Have not been on much.Been running to VA appointments. They found out just how screwed up my back is.After the MRI the DR called me and said she was surprised that I could even walk without help. They are scheduling me with a surgeon in Millwalkie. So I will be making a lot more road trips.Just wanted to stop in and say I have not forgotten about my hommies!!!

 

[fast14riot]

Hey Big! Best of luck with the Dr.'s and such. Headin all the way to southern Wisconsin must be a long trip for you! I've been to milwaukie before, its nice I guess.

Got some more work done on that sharpfinger-like knife last night. I patterned out the bolsters, turned some rod from the bolster material, did some file work on the tang, now I'm trying to decide what wood to use for handle material. I'm gonna have to HT this one carefully, it will be plate quenched. I'm thinking iron plates will be enough to quench it, DanCo did one with some pig iron accidentally while trying to straighten after normalizing.

Last night I got to do some more oddball stuff! This is becoming a habit for me! I went to work on some knives and I heard the rats in my almond tree. So I grabbed a mag light, th pellet pistol and went hunting! Got only a couple shots off, but I know I hit two. Them suckers are tough! I hit em and the scramble around for a second then stand up and stare me down! I reload and they run off! Crazy critters!


-Xander

 

[Daniel Fairly Knives]

Thanx man, I want to know what it is too. I can go get the chunk it came from and see if anyone local can test it or id it for me. The grey one is strange, to me at least. Doesn't look like the slates I'm used to, and it doesn't look like the adobe or clay types either. It looks like wood grain, complete with rings on the end.


-Xander

interesting, it seems like a slate from the pics but id is always tough online. Very cool how it worked out! hair popping sharp...

Good morning men.Have not been on much.Been running to VA appointments. They found out just how screwed up my back is.After the MRI the DR called me and said she was surprised that I could even walk without help. They are scheduling me with a surgeon in Millwalkie. So I will be making a lot more road trips.Just wanted to stop in and say I have not forgotten about my hommies!!!

We'll be thinking about you! That is a lot of travel and I hope it pays off.

Hey Big! Best of luck with the Dr.'s and such. Headin all the way to southern Wisconsin must be a long trip for you! I've been to milwaukie before, its nice I guess.

Got some more work done on that sharpfinger-like knife last night. I patterned out the bolsters, turned some rod from the bolster material, did some file work on the tang, now I'm trying to decide what wood to use for handle material. I'm gonna have to HT this one carefully, it will be plate quenched. I'm thinking iron plates will be enough to quench it, DanCo did one with some pig iron accidentally while trying to straighten after normalizing.

Last night I got to do some more oddball stuff! This is becoming a habit for me! I went to work on some knives and I heard the rats in my almond tree. So I grabbed a mag light, th pellet pistol and went hunting! Got only a couple shots off, but I know I hit two. Them suckers are tough! I hit em and the scramble around for a second then stand up and stare me down! I reload and they run off! Crazy critters!


-Xander

Lmao!!! Rats in the almond tree!!!


Plates... is that 15n20? I'd canola quench (or whatever quench oil is fine) then plate finish. I do all of my 15n20 that way, 11 second oil for 6 seconds then plate quench to keep straight. Nice work!

 

[fast14riot]

Its unknown bandsaw steel, but is stamped uddenholm on much of it. It behaves like 15N20. This is only .060" thick and a fairly small knife. DanCo and I had some long conversations over his testing of straight plate quenching this steel and I have a knife he made for me that was plate quenched. Destruction tests showed very fine grain, no retained austenite or pearlite that could be detected. Edge retention has been great, sharpens up like a razor! We also discussed this openly in shop talk a while back, turns out that most air or oil hardening steel can be plate quenched when under 3/32" thick. I'm gonna give it a shot!


-Xander

 

[Daniel Fairly Knives]

Its unknown bandsaw steel, but is stamped uddenholm on much of it. It behaves like 15N20. This is only .060" thick and a fairly small knife. DanCo and I had some long conversations over his testing of straight plate quenching this steel and I have a knife he made for me that was plate quenched. Destruction tests showed very fine grain, no retained austenite or pearlite that could be detected. Edge retention has been great, sharpens up like a razor! We also discussed this openly in shop talk a while back, turns out that most air or oil hardening steel can be plate quenched when under 3/32" thick. I'm gonna give it a shot!


-Xander

very cool and I must check that thread! A long time ago I asked a bunch of guys and no one thought it was possible. As my machining handbook says the thickness has a lot to do with the quench and outcome. I would bet if it is Uddleholm steel that is is 15n20. I think 15n20 and 1084 are the most underrated steels along with S7. It is usually good to leave that stuff rough on the flats, I have noticed I lose a lot of steel if I try to flatten it or grind the bumps out.. lol they just help with avoiding stuff sticking in my opinion.

I will say as a note that I have had even plate quenched steels warp just like oil hardening steels, be very careful (lol lucky)with stuff that thin. I quenched some A2 for a friend and it warped during temper, very possible but something I never experience with a preheated kiln. Rare stuff but it happens.

Keep up the great work, cool stuff is coming out of your shop for sure! I have been swamped lately but really enjoy the progress and updates.

 

[fast14riot]

Well, since I have a late night dialog to keep up now, I will post tonights shenannigans as I am walking home from the 3rd bar tonight. The beautiy of my neighborhood is it is a historic shopping district and there are 7. Bars within 10 minutes walk of my house. I started out at couple of classier joints, nothing to report there, but the third is a trappist pub, beer and wine only. Long after last call I am still at the bar finishing my 2nd Sierra Nevada Hoptimum and two women walk up that are obviously friends of the very fine looking female bartender. A dialogue begins and I find out just how ruthless b!@ches can be! The smack talking ensued at full tilt! I knew I could never be an equal in the conversation, so I just sat there and agreed silently.

I had enough and left, so I get to the next bar on the strip, women are litterally falling out the doors! Every one of them has a cig, but no fire. I have my zippo, being the good boy scout I am! Well, women start vomitin and then the profanities start to fly! Now this is an exciting night! Hot chicks too drunk to know what's goin on, I'm not drunk enough to take advantage nd I end up holding a girls hair back while she vomits on tbe rims of a brand new BMW! If I hated my wife just a bit more than I actually do I would of been all over this like a college student on a cheerleader!

Ugh, I want this divorce to be over! I may need some sharp knife therapy! <edited to remove uneeded comments>. A new DFK might be in my future! I hve plans for a new design that Daniel hasn't done yet. Let's see where this goes...


-Xander


Tonights beer list:
Breckels brown ale, x2
Sierra Nevada Hoptimum (imperial IPA) X2
Rochefort 10, X1
Sierra Nevada Ovila. Celebration ale X1

Intoxication= beer(n+1)

 

[Daniel Fairly Knives]

I like that beer list! I need to find some Trappist Ale, all of them make superior beer. Get "Brew like a Monk" for cool reading material about the history and process of each trappist brewery. Those dudes consider regular beer to be food! Being a trappist monk means partying a lot, lmao.

Just back from the post office, lol I spent 4 hours on packages today. I had to spend forever at the post office, they lost some damascus that I ordered, it was one of a kind material.

 

[awc]

I'm enjoying a Noir de Chambly. I think I need to let them sit in my fridge for a few more days. Bringing them from another Province has caused them to foam significantly when poured.

 

[fast14riot]

Try chilling your glass, too. Some beers, no matter what you do foam up like crazy. Duvel comes to mind. It even says "pour unhurridly" on the label!

I did some work with my found sharpening stones yesterday. My Kershaw Skyline needed a whole new edge, so I killed it on a Norton IB8 and then went to town on the coarse side, then fine. Moved to the found stones and holy crap this thing is sharp! I did a more thorough write up in the thread I linked the other day.


-Xander

 

[Daniel Fairly Knives]

I'm enjoying a Noir de Chambly. I think I need to let them sit in my fridge for a few more days. Bringing them from another Province has caused them to foam significantly when poured.

Very nice!

Try chilling your glass, too. Some beers, no matter what you do foam up like crazy. Duvel comes to mind. It even says "pour unhurridly" on the label!

I did some work with my found sharpening stones yesterday. My Kershaw Skyline needed a whole new edge, so I killed it on a Norton IB8 and then went to town on the coarse side, then fine. Moved to the found stones and holy crap this thing is sharp! I did a more thorough write up in the thread I linked the other day.


-Xander

Duvel, mmm!

Cool on the stones! I have to try some jasper I have. I think it is really nice the stones worked!

I'm having a Ranger IPA from New Belgium... local beer but probably distributed nation wide. It is pretty good...

 

[Daniel Fairly Knives]

I'm enjoying a Noir de Chambly. I think I need to let them sit in my fridge for a few more days. Bringing them from another Province has caused them to foam significantly when poured.

Very nice!

Try chilling your glass, too. Some beers, no matter what you do foam up like crazy. Duvel comes to mind. It even says "pour unhurridly" on the label!

I did some work with my found sharpening stones yesterday. My Kershaw Skyline needed a whole new edge, so I killed it on a Norton IB8 and then went to town on the coarse side, then fine. Moved to the found stones and holy crap this thing is sharp! I did a more thorough write up in the thread I linked the other day.


-Xander

Duvel, mmm!

Cool on the stones! I have to try some jasper I have. I think it is really nice the stones worked!

I'm having a Ranger IPA from New Belgium... local beer but probably distributed nation wide. It is pretty good...

 

[fast14riot]

Ranger is the only brew I can barely stand from New Belgium, forget about that terrible Flat Tire, yuck! Tastes like moldy bread to me. I'm much more into the very floral, hop forward beers, that's why I'm such a fan boy of Sierra Nevada stuff. They're not known for balaced brews! I can handle certain browns too, most are just funky to me. I have one 24oz. bottle of Sierra Hoptimum left from the original controlld release by the brewery. Its been cellared since Feb. '11. I'm saving it for my best friends 30th this november. Having one the other night reminded me of why I cellared some. It should be just about at peak soon. Only thing better is to get it right from the brewery! I had a case and man, was it good!

Daniel, you figure out how to read that mic yet? It has adjustable tension of the thimble, too. I tightened it up to where I like it, but if it spins too freely its easy to adjust. Just unscrew the thimble all the way an you'll see a black collar on a split threaded sleeve. Tighten it down maybe 1/8 of a turn at a time. I used triflow on the internals, some people like sewing machine oil too.

I'm really diggin on the rocks! I feel like such a caveman, rubbing tools on rocks to sharpen them! I'm deffinetly gonna hunt down some more of this black one, its just too nice! If I find another good chunk I'll be sure to send you one.


-Xander

 

[Daniel Fairly Knives]

Ranger is the only brew I can barely stand from New Belgium, forget about that terrible Flat Tire, yuck! Tastes like moldy bread to me. I'm much more into the very floral, hop forward beers, that's why I'm such a fan boy of Sierra Nevada stuff. They're not known for balaced brews! I can handle certain browns too, most are just funky to me. I have one 24oz. bottle of Sierra Hoptimum left from the original controlld release by the brewery. Its been cellared since Feb. '11. I'm saving it for my best friends 30th this november. Having one the other night reminded me of why I cellared some. It should be just about at peak soon. Only thing better is to get it right from the brewery! I had a case and man, was it good!

Daniel, you figure out how to read that mic yet? It has adjustable tension of the thimble, too. I tightened it up to where I like it, but if it spins too freely its easy to adjust. Just unscrew the thimble all the way an you'll see a black collar on a split threaded sleeve. Tighten it down maybe 1/8 of a turn at a time. I used triflow on the internals, some people like sewing machine oil too.

I'm really diggin on the rocks! I feel like such a caveman, rubbing tools on rocks to sharpen them! I'm deffinetly gonna hunt down some more of this black one, its just too nice! If I find another good chunk I'll be sure to send you one.


-Xander

yeah I am not a huge NB fan either, overrated IMO. I was digging the 1554 (?) black beer there for a while but it also has that odd profile. Water I guess.

The best brewery around is Durango Brewery but their beer is only local as far as I know. We also have Ska which is hit and miss for me with some killer special releases and Steamworks which is great but usually pushing $10 a six pack which is too much for me at least for 6% brew. I think Ska and Steamworks are also widely distributed and they are all here. NB is from northern CO.

I think I have figured out the mic as far as reading it; IMWILSOM sent me a great book with a section on reading them which helped out a ton.

Triflow, good stuff.

The rocks are cool, I need to try and get out once this year for collecting. usually I am on to all kinds of stuff... I should go and do a video. I want to figure out what waterstones are made from and if I can find anything like one.

Uploading video here, 29 pieces to be edited together. I like my inexpensive Kodak but they really need some good free or cheap editing software! lol I edit it all by uploading each video to youtube then combining them. I'm pretty good with stuff like that but the format only works with Kodak stuff.

 

[Daniel Fairly Knives]

By the way...

if anyone is considering buying a KMG Grinder, watch the video! I made it strictly to help out makers who are thinking about buying one and think it really helps break down what they do and what you will need.

(video will be up soon! )

 

[fast14riot]

Well I'm home and enjoying a Limited Release by Lagunitas; Little Sumpin' Wild ale. Suprisingly wonderful profile! 72.5 IBU, O.G. 1.079, 8.8% Alc/Vol. Fermented with Westmalle strain yeast, reportedly. Very balanced, slight camphor smell (that could be the Tiger Balm I used earlier, though), skunky, full bodied without sitting heavy. This might be worth me spending money on a case! I haven't seen Ska or Steamworks 'round these parts, but I didn't realize you guys have a "steam beer" out there. Of course, its good ol' Anchor steam brew here. Brewed in San Francisco. There are so many breweries within a couple hours drive here, that I don't even try to keep track, its almost as bad as wineries! Remember when Lodi Apellation wines became popular? Yeah, Lodi is 10 minutes up the freeway.


Cheers!


-Xander

 

[flatblackcapo]

cool Daniel looking forward to the vid!

 

[Lycosa]

Let's turn the frickin knife grinder on here!!

 

[Daniel Fairly Knives]

Well I'm home and enjoying a Limited Release by Lagunitas; Little Sumpin' Wild ale. Suprisingly wonderful profile! 72.5 IBU, O.G. 1.079, 8.8% Alc/Vol. Fermented with Westmalle strain yeast, reportedly. Very balanced, slight camphor smell (that could be the Tiger Balm I used earlier, though), skunky, full bodied without sitting heavy. This might be worth me spending money on a case! I haven't seen Ska or Steamworks 'round these parts, but I didn't realize you guys have a "steam beer" out there. Of course, its good ol' Anchor steam brew here. Brewed in San Francisco. There are so many breweries within a couple hours drive here, that I don't even try to keep track, its almost as bad as wineries! Remember when Lodi Apellation wines became popular? Yeah, Lodi is 10 minutes up the freeway.


Cheers!


-Xander

I enjoy anything by Lagunitas, I like the way they do hops. I made some IPA's that would remind you of theirs. Speaking of that I really need to brew some beer, I have a pound of hops taking up half my freezer! I have some Amarillo and Chinook for a nice IPA. My last IPA was with Sorachi Ace hops, it was wild... tasted like mangos for a while (I love mangos but it was gross) then to a pure lemon which was just killer then to more of a Cascade hops taste.

That is good yeast too. I brewed about 15 ciders all with the same recipe (Ed Wort's Apfelwine) but different yeast to see how the yeast worked... I tried everything from English Ale yeast to full on Champagne yeast, it was cool seeing the difference.

My Dad has some grapes planted, he is trying to start a hobbyist vineyard for fun. So far they are doing great!

cool Daniel looking forward to the vid!

Thanks! I need to do more editing and will have it up this evening. I almost finished it last night but was up late trying to edit everything. I think it will help some people out.

Let's turn the frickin knife grinder on here!!

I'm cooking lunch on the sizzling hot platen right now!