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Sweet! Open house style! Good thing I just ordered more steel, otherwise I would be all over this!


-Xander
 
I got 1084 from some steel monger in Jersey :D

1x.250 for the kamisori razors, and 1.5x.125 for just general knife stuff.


-Xander
 
I got 1084 from some steel monger in Jersey :D

1x.250 for the kamisori razors, and 1.5x.125 for just general knife stuff.


-Xander

Nice! I like the 1084 the most by far of the 10xx series and more than most other steels as well. I think it is great for everything, fine grained for razors too.

By the way, your marlinspike looks good! Pics soon! It is pretty big at about 6" long, 5160 and has the duck taper. I think it will be good for larger work, you can customize the tip if it is a bit too big. It should be about 57 RC, I might draw it back further... what do you think? It will be tough as heck I know that.
 
Yep, I love 1080/1084. It cuts, files, forges and HT's so easily! Grain is very fine, just about perfect for razors.

Wait a second, MY marlin spike?! SWEET! 6" is a perfect size for most stuff. Do you still have the schematic I sent you? If not I'll get another to you. For hardness I think that should be just fine. A hard spring temper or about like a hammer would be fine just enough to give stability to the tip without deforming or chipping but able to survive being jammed into hardened stainless J-lock shackels or prying a stuck wire halyard out of an aluminum sheave.

An excerpt from The Complete Riggers Apprentice, by Brion Toss. (This book couple with the A.B.o.K is the go to reference material)

"The Marlingspike
All of rigging-right up through its most abstract engineering complications-is based on priciples and procedures relating to this tool. It is used for pulling seizings and lashings tight, making splices, loosening jammed knots, and tightening shackles. It's also called on to function as a crowbar, wrench, hammer, weapon, and musical instrument (ting!), so it pays to have a good one. By "good" I mean that it:

- Is made of smooth, hard steel, either carbon or stainless;
- has a long taper and small flattened point for easier splicing, prying, and such; and
- has a lanyard hole for tying the tool to your belt or rigging bag so that when you are working aloft, it does not accidentally become a weapon (thud) or a musical instrument (ting! Splash!).

Length depends on the job at hand and individual taste; 6 to 10 inches is a good range for shipboard use. Many people like the folding rigger's knife-spike combination, but I dont; a spike is too often needed in a hurry when you don't have both hands free."

I have faith in you Daniel to make a very usable tool. In our discussions in the past you showed a solid grasp of the concept of the tool and your previous shipboard life gives you the first hand experiance in understanding its uses. Its also a tool that I think many outdoorsmen could (should) utilise in their travels. To many times have I had to try and pry something with a knife and cut it or fumble with a screw driver
bending and just not working well. The proportional schematic I sent you is based on the late Nick Benton's work in analyzing the classic Drew spikes. Nick Benton was a Master Rigger of extraordinary talent.


This just makes my night! Extra ration of rum for all! Huzzah!


-Xander
 
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Thumbing through my Machinery's Handbook (21st edition) I glanced at the quick reference chart for tool steel and its uses, I saw this little note under the "S" series steels and thought you might get a kick out of it...

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-Xander
 
Yes! I like that. "For higher performance"

I didn't look the diagram for the spike, I just came across the right piece of 5160 and think it will be good.

Great info there, I think I will polish the tip That might help it slip into a know easier.

I came across a machinists manual like that a ways back, it showed why a chisel grind was used in industrial applications as it cuts not wedges. I need to find it!


No call, no show with the contractor yesterday. He still has to level my shop and I need to bury the 100 amp line for inspection.


random thought but it keeps coming back to me...

I consider making a "War" line of knives. Tough, no nonsense, easy to clean and maintain... extreme in those aspects.
 
Yes! I like that. "For higher performance"

I didn't look the diagram for the spike, I just came across the right piece of 5160 and bet it will be good.

Great info there, I think I will polish the tip. That might help it slip into a knot easier.


I came across a machinists manual like that a ways back, it showed why a chisel grind was used in industrial applications as it cuts not wedges. I need to find it!


No call, no show with the contractor yesterday. He still has to level my shop and I need to bury the 100 amp line for inspection.


random thought but it keeps coming back to me...

I consider making a "War" line of knives. Tough, no nonsense, easy to clean and maintain... extreme in those aspects. Inexpensive too
 
Yes, it is documented that a DFK in S7=higher performance! :D

5160 will make an awesome spike! Tough, hard, will patina nicely.

I found some old pictures online of guys in the early part of the 20th century using Drew spikes that were 4 feet long! I can't imagine even trying to maneuver something like that!

No luck at the flea market today, but a good walk to work off my hangover!



-Xander
 
Yes, it is documented that a DFK in S7=higher performance! :D

5160 will make an awesome spike! Tough, hard, will patina nicely.

I found some old pictures online of guys in the early part of the 20th century using Drew spikes that were 4 feet long! I can't imagine even trying to maneuver something like that!

No luck at the flea market today, but a good walk to work off my hangover!



-Xander

Cool, I can't imagine a 4' spike! Don't get your hand near a winch for that line!
 
Evening men.Daniel you come out with a war line I would be very interested!!!

Hey Bigcountry!

I saw your post and started doing some drawing... I want to start off with a fighter/utility that will really take (and give) a beating. I already have a rough drawing!

I'm thinking 1/4" stainless, double grind, easy to sanitize handle (removable scales or cord wrap) and a no-nonsense finish. I may try a line of knives once I get folders started up.

Fighter, breacher axe, tomahawk, lightweight utility, chopper, chopper/fighter, machete, kiridashi...
 
Morning y'all.

got a new pellet pistol yesterday, the Crosman 1322. its fun but the rats are getting smart and hiding!


-Xander
 
Hey Wilson! Coffee, chorizo con heuvos for breakfast this morning.

Got our first real rain storm here last night and its still raining. I didn't finish getting the yards ready for the rains, Zyler's toys are still sitting in the yard. I let Radar (the dog) out this morning and he came running and stopped right at the edge of the porch! Looked around, looked up and then looked at me like it was my fault! He's gotten to be a sissy dog! I watched him tip toe around the yard, do his business and come running back in. I guess he's a fair weather dog!


-Xander
 
Morning all.

Good morning!

Hey Wilson! Coffee, chorizo con heuvos for breakfast this morning.

Got our first real rain storm here last night and its still raining. I didn't finish getting the yards ready for the rains, Zyler's toys are still sitting in the yard. I let Radar (the dog) out this morning and he came running and stopped right at the edge of the porch! Looked around, looked up and then looked at me like it was my fault! He's gotten to be a sissy dog! I watched him tip toe around the yard, do his business and come running back in. I guess he's a fair weather dog!


-Xander

that's funny! My cat thinks walking on the porch rail keeps him dry, too funny.

Morning y'all.

got a new pellet pistol yesterday, the Crosman 1322. its fun but the rats are getting smart and hiding!


-Xander

Nice! I have shot one of those back in the day. Lots of fun!


Making knives here, :D maybe sheaths later too. I think this weekend was as slow as it gets here... I hope it picks up.
 
Hey folks . I finally got around to taking pix of the pojects I have been playing with as of late.
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that damn Rat 1 that gave me so many problems is finaly done.The stone in the pic is the wet stone Xander gave me. It is awesome! Thanks Xander!
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This is the wrench that Xander needed.Haha you gotta be faster next time Xander.
Today will be my first rain ride of the year . Time to bust out the track bike.
have a great day y'all.
 
That's impressive! The grind on it is tougher that it looks to do in my opinion. That's the wrench! :D

Great looking folder too, what mods did you do? It's nice!


I keep going over my folder design and I think it is looking great, the geometry on the lock should be very good but I am going to have some pros look over it.


speaking of folders... check this custom work... you guys may have heard of him http://mickstridercustomknives.com/ the new model is killer, I keep drooling over it
 
Thumbing through my Machinery's Handbook (21st edition) I glanced at the quick reference chart for tool steel and its uses, I saw this little note under the "S" series steels and thought you might get a kick out of it...

2012-10-20212848.jpg



-Xander

I had to steal this... posted on the S7 thread but chopped...
 
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