FIBERMASCUS- Great till you have a problem

Just make sure you post here or elsewhere when it's all finished so that we can all see the results!
 
After waiting patiently for the outcome from Daniel I am sad to say that before he had chance to send me pics of the finished knife or post them on here he had sold the knife and lost all pictures. So I am not much further:confused:.

Is there anyone who is experienced with Garys fibermascus that would atempt to finish the material and post the pics on here be it good or bad ?
 
As I said I was going to post a peice off to a knife maker on blade forums. I did many months ago. After working with my material he was completely unhelpful and wasted my time.

I can only assume that he also found the material I had to be crap and knife makers/ material makers stick together.

Daniel Koster was the guy who said would work with it and give his honest opinion. The knife mysteriously disappeared from his web-site and it was quickly sold to a customer who could not be contacted again ! 4 months I wasted my time waiting for his results !

Is there anyone who could seriously work with the junk I have and give me honest formal opinions + photographs out there ????
 
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Wow....calling a knifemaker out and posting private emails in a public arena...

I'm not sure you'll get much help from any other makers.

:thumbdn:


I have scoured my picture archives and my forum and cannot find a picture.... *shrug*



I paid you for the material and agreed to speak with you about the quality of the product. I believe I fulfilled that obligation. I apologize for not posting a picture. The current owner has his right to privacy - to not be bothered about a picture...that will only confuse the matter, since the finish I put on it is completely different from what you wanted (I bead-blasted it considerably).


I stand by my original position (as shown in the post above) that the request to have Gary make it to your specs is where the problem started. Should have just let Gary do it the way he prefers (thinner sheets - 1/4" to 3/8").


I did make the knife with considerable contouring and it was better than the knife posted earlier...but nowhere near Blackwood's.

My conclusion?

Accept it for what it is and use it on other knives or sell it to someone else (at a loss).

Gary made it at your request and wasn't happy with it either...so I'm not sure he's at fault here.

There are many makers who have used fibermascus...and continue to do so. I have seen a lot go through the shop here (Tom's work) and all of it was spectacular stuff - the absolute best of all synthetic handle materials out there. I will continue to use Gary's fibermascus whenever and wherever I can - I absolutely love the stuff and have never had any complaints.

Tom and I talked about the knife and the material...and our conclusion is the same.


Just sounds like you are having to own up to an expensive mistake...and wanting to drag Gary (and now me) down with it.

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Dan
 
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harrybobble.
What you just did in my opinion is way out of line. You wanted an opinion of fibermascus and in my opinion DK gave it to you. He had to sand blast it and it obviously was not the easiest material to work with. What more do you want? A signed photograph?? sorry no pics...its not the end of the world because what does a picture actually show? Were you paying Daniel for his opinion? were you paying Daniel for his photography? I think not.

Posting a personal correspondance without the other persons permission is way out of line. Not to mention stupid, rude, and mean.

you need to work on your patience pal. obviously you have none of it.

Daniel is a great knife maker who makes great knives and is a busy guy. If you wanted personal opinions you could have used this really neat thing called a telephone. Why didnt you just call Daniel and ask for opinions or pics at that time instead of digging up your thread from last year to whine and complain.

Your out the money for the materials. It didnt fit your needs. Sorry bout that...move on...trashing a knife maker is bad form buddy...
 
I am not wanting to drag you down Daniel, granted the private correspondance may have been uncalled for but really, it didn't contain facts about how your Mother is with her health or anything. Out of respect I have removed them though.

You failed to answer my question :

yes subtle indeed lol. Are you still going to use it on a knife and post it on blade forums ? Now I understand the concept of how it is manufactured I believe due to the thickness of what I required the resin got too hot and it burnt the burlap. The colours of resin are just too subtle to show any patterns in normal light, he should of contrasted more. In everyday sunlight it just looks like a brown mess.

Thats just my thoughts ?


Thats why I was pissed. I know damn well that is the problem. You went on to blast it with beads because its a shit pattern. I believe its a case of you not wanting to be honest regarding "material you use at any oportunity" as above and it would hurt your relationship with Gary, so you choose your words carefully.

I just wish you'd a made this clear in the first place. Yes you only paid for material but you knew what this was for and I thought you were doing me a favour otherwise I would not of sold you any.

I brought up this old thread because it shows what was meant to be happening, I was extremely patient with Daniel and polite from December 07 till April 08 waiting for his result, yes it tried my patience for it to vanish at the end of this with nothing.
 
Ren the devils trailboss: If you had took the time to read past the first paragraph you would of seen why I added this to an old thread. 6 months I waited with patience and was always polite. For what, no real opinion and avoiding questions. No result to show on here.

Maybe I am a man of my word and if I said I was going to do something for someone I would do it. I needed someone to give their impartial opinion without choosing their words which has obviously happened here to avoid upset to a relationship with Gary

It wasted my time and maybe now I got a little impatient, frig 6 months I waited. There was nothing stupid, and mean about posting the correspondance. It had no personal information and was simply regarding the handle material. Maybe rude to not ask first so I have removed it out of respect.

He did not follow through on his word, so yeah I feal like my time has been wasted. All I got was his opinion after he sand blasted the shit out of it, avoiding my question regarding how I believe the material is defective.
 
The fact is that I am certain of, Gary messed up the material. I had sent pictures of Neil Blackwoods Knife and he knew that I wanted that material (same colour, same pattern) He only advised me on the fact there would be no real pattern through the cross section. I understood that and what he was saying.

Upon finishing it he was happy as Larry and couldn't wait for the trasnsaction. If he took pride in his work he wouldn't of been happy sending me the barely camo, burnt burlap junk out. As soon as money was exchanged I got a not so nice Gary with attitude and could not care less about my concerns.

This was shoddy workmanship by Gary of Fibermascus and the fact he let that out of his workshop also shows that he has no pride in his work, not giving a damn about palming me off with a peice of junk.
 
Ever do something for someone (a boss, a friend, a relative, a coworker) that you know is not going to work, but you do it anyway...and you even do it with a smile on your face?

I've done it....and, sadly, will probably do it again...though I am more cautious with ever "burn" I get.

Sometimes it turns out ok...most times it doesn't.

*shrug*


I don't know what else to tell you, bro.


I bought the material...agreed to tell you what I thought about it....finished it....told you what I thought about it in a pleasant positive way...


I'm not sure what more you want me to do?



I didn't like the polished finish (I don't really polish anything, ever) so I bead-blasted it...*shrug*


I'm not defending Gary....he can defend himself. But I'm not going to stick it to him either...and certainly not string him up in a public forum.

I have no dog in this fight...I wanted to see it for myself...if it was a matter of finishing. Turned out it was partly finishing and partly the material itself.

Dan
 
Its not really your fault Daniel and I am not blaming you. I was under the impression you were going to try polish the material and give me your opinion.

You ended up bead blasting which wont really show much. I didnt expect that from our original conversations and it ended up setting me back another year almost and part of the material gone when I am fighting for an exchange or at the worst refund.

That wasted my time and material. No big deal. I just needed someone to give me their verdict of the material polished who uses it often. It didnt turn out that way. Now I am back to step two of finding someone who can give me a second opinion.

That is just frustrating
 
I have had nothing but good experiences dealing with Gary! All the material I have got from him has been over the top good!

Tom
 
Harrybobble,

You made a sereis of mistakes here. From begining to end.

First, you rant and rave about the material not looking like the material shown on a TRUE custom knife, even though you were told it would not look at all like it. I don't see a problem here.

Second, you have a kit knife asembler put your knife together with the fibermascus. His workmanship on you knife is really quite bad. This is what I would be pissed about. Not the handle material!

Then you find a true craftsman to give your material a try. He buys the material from you, builds a knife, sells it to a customer, and tells you what he thought of the material. What the hell is the problem?

Then you come on here and rant about Daniel taking too long, not telling you what you wanted to hear, and then bitch about how he chose to finish HIS knife!

Now, I don't know what you expect from a custom knife maker as far as time frames are concerned, but six months is a minimal time to wait, many will take far longer, depending on work load.

So what, if his opinion was not negative enough for you? So What if it took six months? So what, if you wanted him to polish the handle? Was he makning this knife for you, to your specs?

You, Sir, are completely out of line!

In my opinion, you owe Daniel (and Gary) a BIG appology! Both of these gentlemen have responded to your rants far more potliely that I would have.

If you want true custom knife quality, then find a skilled maker and commission him to make what you want. Though after what I have seen in your posts here, I would not think many would want to do business with you. I know I would not!
 
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