First Blade Forums experience w/ Pangloss1

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Update 1: this community has been so helpful and has given great feedback so thank you. After some feedback, the seller was @Pangloss1.

I’m new to the blade forums so if there is any correction that needs to be made or if I violate any rules please let me know.

So on February 22, there was a post for a 940-1 listed as “Basically BNIB” there post will be linked here:
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/new-prices.1555694/

I agreed to purchase this knife and the Dragonfly that was also listed. The Dragonfly was stated in excellent condition. I offered to buy both from the seller and he cut me a deal so I was happy. Payment was sent over the next morning and the seller sent them out that day.

Fast forward a few days and I got the knives in the mail, but not in the condition that was listed or the condition I had thought. The 940-1 had plenty of dust and debris on the axis mechanism and when I tore it down to clean it up, parts of the omega springs had rust the the liners also had wear on them and well. The whole knife was caked in dust and gunk for lack of a better term. I asked the seller for a blade centering picture and it looked good to me. I know how Benchmade is with their QC because I own the original 940 and a 556-1 and both of those brand new had a few centering problems. The centering on the 940-1 was terrible, basically rubbing on the non show side, not at all like the picture I received.

The dragonfly had good blade centering but the scales had some dust and dirt within the FRN, not something I cannot clean but not in the excellent condition listed.

Here are a couple pictures I took when I unpacked the knives,
http://imgur.com/IqcGhNv
http://imgur.com/8rDw2qG

As you can hopefully tell, the 940-1 was definitely not Basicaslly BNIB and the dragonfly has some wear. I think I’m just most upset of being misinformed of the condition of the 940. I’m happy I got it but needed to send the knife off to Benchmade immediately because of the well worn parts and terrible action. I cleaned up the knife before doing so but it still wasn’t amazing, but definitely much better.

Here are a few email correspondence I had with the seller, I also had to email twice asking about the condition I received the knives in before getting a response.
http://imgur.com/fndLkdP
http://imgur.com/8FZjnhr
http://imgur.com/mfYxUVU


I didn’t want to name names or cause trouble but thought my first experience here may be shared. I trade on the knife swap subreddit and that has always been a pleasant experience over there, just unfortunate that my first here was less than ideal but such is life.
 
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That knife has been in a pocket......A LOT. That is terrible, and there is no doubt that the seller was misrepresenting the Benchmade. Please don't think we are all that lousy.

Also, it was definitely that way before it left the seller. If you blow up his for sale pictures, you can see all that gunk caked around the axis lock.
 
Did you tell the seller that you were going to start this thread?

If I could give some advice to you it would be when you receive something and it’s not in the condition that you expected to immediately contact the seller. Don’t take things apart,clean or sharpen them etc.
 
Those scales were friggin CHUNKED!!! LMAO

GROSS!

ETA: not laughing at you OP, laughin at that disgusting chunk.
 
Did you tell the seller that you were going to start this thread?

If I could give some advice to you it would be when you receive something and it’s not in the condition that you expected to immediately contact the seller. Don’t take things apart,clean or sharpen them etc.

Thank you for that tip. I will keep that in mind next time. And I didn’t let him know I’m starting this thread, is that proper etiquette to do so?
 
That knife has been in a pocket......A LOT. That is terrible, and there is no doubt that the seller was misrepresenting the Benchmade. Please don't think we are all that lousy.

Also, it was definitely that way before it left the seller. If you blow up his for sale pictures, you can see all that gunk caked around the axis lock.

I’m sure I just got a lemon for my first buy/trade here, but that won’t deter me from buying again. That would be wrong to blame all for one bad experience. Yeah I saw that after the fact as well. I think I was just too excited to jump on that deal because I thought the price was good, next time I should look more closely hah.
 
Those scales were friggin CHUNKED!!! LMAO

GROSS!

ETA: not laughing at you OP, laughin at that disgusting chunk.

It was pretty bad. Like those omega springs had rust and I spent maybe 45 minutes cleaning it. I still needed up sending it to Benchmade though. At least I’ll get a basically new knife back!
 
I’m sure I just got a lemon for my first buy/trade here, but that won’t deter me from buying again. That would be wrong to blame all for one bad experience. Yeah I saw that after the fact as well. I think I was just too excited to jump on that deal because I thought the price was good, next time I should look more closely hah.
Yeah if the deal seems like it's too good to be true,,, well you know the rest.
 
Shady sellers... Thanks for sharing OP.
Reading the instagram messages, l& looking at those pictures:
how lame & disappointing.

Totally Understood.
 
It was pretty bad. Like those omega springs had rust and I spent maybe 45 minutes cleaning it. I still needed up sending it to Benchmade though. At least I’ll get a basically new knife back!

Benchmade will take care of you. I called and asked about a user infidel I was gifted. It’s banged up and has been used heavily with otf opening and closing issues and missing screws. I didn’t skimp on the details and gave them a full blown account of what is wrong with the knife, and they said to absolutely send it in.


Your first experience here is in fact a bad one, but there are a lot of fantastic people here. In 7 years I’ve only had enough bad experiences to count on one hand, and I used to buy/sell quite a bit.
 
Disgusting condition. I'd never send a knife out like that and I'd never buy it if I knew. You need to out this dude so I can /ignore him.
 
Wow I just took a look at he pics and they do not AT ALL reflect how the knives looked in the sales thread. The 940 looked pristine in the picture, and the dragonfly looked great too. A cotton swab goes a long way to clean stuff out.

Shameful
 

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OP: there are many, many, many more honest and good folks among the population in here as opposed to the deceitful grifters who mislead, misrepresent, cheat and lie. Just like the SuperMod rycen had stated, best to NOT modify, service, disassemble or sharpen knives which the buyer receives in not-as-described condition. Sadly it seems that these two folders are now your problems to deal with but I do not blame you for expressing your negative experience in form of leaving the seller a negative feedback. Did you contact the seller upon you receiving the knives to ask questions about his misrepresentation and if so, what was the seller's reply?
 
Upon further inspection the pictures of the 940 do in fact show the pocket lint in the lock area. The sales thread was mis labeled
 
OP: there are many, many, many more honest and good folks among the population in here as opposed to the deceitful grifters who mislead, misrepresent, cheat and lie. Just like the SuperMod rycen had stated, best to NOT modify, service, disassemble or sharpen knives which the buyer receives in not-as-described condition. Sadly it seems that these two folders are now your problems to deal with but I do not blame you for expressing your negative experience in form of leaving the seller a negative feedback. Did you contact the seller upon you receiving the knives to ask questions about his misrepresentation and if so, what was the seller's reply?

At least I got the knives I wanted haha. Sad in the condition they were in but such is life. Yes, I did contact him, here are the screen shots I took
https://imgur.com/fndLkdP
https://imgur.com/8FZjnhr
https://imgur.com/mfYxUVU

I needed to email him twice to get a response.
 
Upon further inspection the pictures of the 940 do in fact show the pocket lint in the lock area. The sales thread was mis labeled

You are correct. I only looked after the fact and that was my fault. Should’ve taken closer inspection the first time.
 
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