Flu outbreak....

skammer said:
Could this be the next 1916? Who knows but the death rate "seems" low for now but what concerns science is: will this strain mutate further or change in a manner that kills at a much higher rate?

At that stage any comparrison to regular flu is apples and oranges and does not appply,
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Skammer is absolutely right on this one.

Everything has pointed to the world population being due for a pandemic, not if but when. If this isn't “it,” at least the result will be increased preparation for "it."

I pulled this from the BBC web pages. I don't even remember hearing about the 1957 and 1968 pandemics.

FLU PANDEMICS
1918: The Spanish flu pandemic remains the most devastating outbreak of modern times - infecting up to 40% of the world's population and killing more than 50m people, with young adults particularly badly affected

1957: Asian flu killed two million people. Caused by a human form of the virus, H2N2, combining with a mutated strain found in wild ducks. The elderly were particularly vulnerable

1968: An outbreak first detected in Hong Kong, and caused by a strain known as H3N2, killed up to one million people globally, with those over 65 most likely to die

When we hear of healthy adults succumbing to the illness something more virulent than we've seen previously must be involved. If something new pops up the potential to mutate to the virulence of smallpox on natives is possible, is it not?

CaptInsano said:
Then how can you make ludicrous statements like this?

You say this flu is not comparable to seasonal flu.
I ask you why.
You say it is not comparable because of the difference mortality rates.
I ask you what the difference in mortality rates is.
You say you don't know.
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I think a pandemic flu is not comparable to a seasonal flu as we know it because of a high infection percentage and a very high mortality rate of those infected. Will we find this is the second wave, after missing the first, with several more to come? Panic, no point in it but it sure looks like something to watch.
 
He's from Canuckia. They have political prisons for people who don't go through enough rashers in a year.
 
Ramm9 said:
Skammer is absolutely right on this one.

Everything has pointed to the world population being due for a pandemic, not if but when. If this isn't “it,” at least the result will be increased preparation for "it."

I pulled this from the BBC web pages. I don't even remember hearing about the 1957 and 1968 pandemics.

FLU PANDEMICS
1918: The Spanish flu pandemic remains the most devastating outbreak of modern times - infecting up to 40% of the world's population and killing more than 50m people, with young adults particularly badly affected

1957: Asian flu killed two million people. Caused by a human form of the virus, H2N2, combining with a mutated strain found in wild ducks. The elderly were particularly vulnerable

1968: An outbreak first detected in Hong Kong, and caused by a strain known as H3N2, killed up to one million people globally, with those over 65 most likely to die
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Good point, but I think you need to take into account the differences in the ability of modern health care to address these disease pathologies when compared with the US in 1918 or 60's communist china. Diseases like these usually cause death through complications of symptoms rather than targeted systemic damage. IOW, flu doesn't kill you. Not being able to breath or cooking your brain, or not being able to maintain fluid and electrolyte balance kills you. Theses are all things that were much better at handling now. You don't have to survive the flu. Your immune system can handle it. You have to survive the symptoms while your immune system handles it.



Ramm9 said:
I think a pandemic flu is not comparable to a seasonal flu as we know it because of a high infection percentage and a very high mortality rate of those infected. Will we find this is the second wave, after missing the first, with several more to come? Panic, no point in it but it sure looks like something to watch.
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Pandemic is a term that simply refers to the rate and region of infection. It is not descriptive of mortality.
 
So...flu is bad, old flu was bad, new flu is bad...have we reached an agreement yet?
 
Haha, I think the agreement should be that we don't know enough yet.

All this extrapolation and speculation is just that, speculation. We do know it is a new virus with the various characteristics already discussed. We do not know definitively how severe the disease is or will become. We do not know definitively how easily it can be transmitted and all the factors necessary for its maintenance in a population and further propagation. I think we should just keep an eye on it, and listen as the experts learn more about the virus.
 
shotgunner11 said:
You should be fine as long as it was canadian bacon.

Everyone knows thats not really bacon.;)
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Never understood that one...... go to any restaurant in Canada and ask for "Canadian Bacon" ... odds are they won't have a clue what you're talking aboot.... he he.

Friggin ham..... we call it friggin HAM just like you.


hmmmmmm HAAAAAAM!....... atchooo!
 
WVHILLS said:
How exactly does the Flu ( of any type ) kill?
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Typical it weakens the infected person to the point that either one or more of the symptoms overwhelms the body, fever, dehydration...etc.

Or it weakens you enough that an opportunistic bacterial infection sets in.
 
i got a call from my brother and he said "The zombie flu is here"! i thought that was funny but on a more serious note this does look like it is spreading fast and looks to be very dangerous.
 
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