From Cattle Knife to Stockman!

[tongueriver]

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[Campbellclanman]

I thought this pre-war Ulster @ 4 inches might be interesting; it is the gentleman's version, an analog of the Camillus #69, and the Schrade CutCo #8813, later to become the Schrade Walden #861, and later yet the inferior Schrade 61 OT.View attachment 927026 View attachment 927027 View attachment 927028

WOW!!!!!
Beautiful Knife that Ulster!!!

Have a grand Hammer Brand Cattle my friend.

 

[Modoc ED]

Hi Ed. No worries. Thank you for the photo. Authors use a lot of modern collector terms. They also paste these words on illustrations cut from old catalogs. Levine does use "sowbelly" and "hump back" in Levine's Guide but he will tell you that it is a modern collector term (quote below).


https://www.bladeforums.com/threads...owbelly-premier-cattle.1342623/#post-15435450

Here are some examples of unedited scans from real catalogs.

"cattle"

"serpentine stock pattern"

"cattle knife; serpentine pattern"

"cattle knife" etch on old Hammer brand knife that we now call by the modern name "sowbelly" and describe as a "stockman" with a big curve.

Thanks for that post Jake. If there's one thing I've learned in all my years of knife collecting, it's that nothing or nearly nothing is written in stone. It'll be educational to continue following this thread.

EDITED TO ADD:

By golly, "sowbelly" is in LVG4. I gave it a once over again and there it is on page 288 of LVG4 - "sowbelly". Always a pleasure to talk to ya.

 

[singin50]

Hey Tongueriver, that old celluloid Schrade Cut Shapleigh is a stunner!

 

[rockman0]

New arrival here and I like it
3 7/8" closed. 630047 HP

 

[blademan 13]

 

[Campbellclanman]

Nice Rob and Jamie!

 

[rockman0]

Thanks Duncan !

 

[blademan 13]

Cheers, Duncan!

 

[Riz!]

Two 81s that I modded to have sheepsfoot blades and an 82 that I dropped the kicks on to create a tighter riding blade package. The micarta 81 had an amazing patina on the clip blade and yesterday when I went to get it out of the knife drawer to carry it I discovered actual rust near the tip. I had to buff off the entire blade.

 

[315]

Two 81s that I modded to have sheepsfoot blades and an 82 that I dropped the kicks on to create a tighter riding blade package. The micarta 81 had an amazing patina on the clip blade and yesterday when I went to get it out of the knife drawer to carry it I discovered actual rust near the tip. I had to buff off the entire blade.

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I really like how the Micarta turned out!!

 

[navaja]

Here are a couple of stockmen from S&M. Both pre-DFC with excellent f&f.

 

[Misplaced Hillbilly]

My only stockman at the moment

 

[pmek5]

1971 #64047P Four Blade Stockman w/ punch. Wonderful knife & craftsmanship.

 

[waynorth]

Beauty, Tim!! Hard to find a nice 4-blade!!

 

[Campbellclanman]

That is a very nice Case Tim- what a Beauty!

Heres a very nice Knife I picked up with a Couple of Older Camillus Knives a while ago.

This Knife hits the spot in several areas, Stamped WARDS this is a UTICA made Knife and in every way this knife is superb!
Beautiful Golden Bone- The Walk and Talk is just so amazing! Coined Liners- Punch!
This Knife has hardly- if ever been used!

To be honest I wasnt too sure whether to put this in Charlies Cattle Knife to Stockman Thread or The Cattle Knife Thread, I feel with the Punch - even though being what we in the more modern days call this shape a Stockman - that this knife is more the Cattle Knife because of the Punch? I guess that one is open to discussion.

 

[The Fort]

That is a very nice Case Tim- what a Beauty!

Heres a very nice Knife I picked up with a Couple of Older Camillus Knives a while ago.

This Knife hits the spot in several areas, Stamped WARDS this is a UTICA made Knife and in every way this knife is superb!
Beautiful Golden Bone- The Walk and Talk is just so amazing! Coined Liners- Punch!
This Knife has hardly- if ever been used!

To be honest I wasnt too sure whether to put this in Charlies Cattle Knife to Stockman Thread or The Cattle Knife Thread, I feel with the Punch - even though being what we in the more modern days call this shape a Stockman - that this knife is more the Cattle Knife because of the Punch? I guess that one is open to discussion.

Duncan, that’s the kind of knife that I tune in to see! What a great piece! -Lance

 

[pmek5]

That is a very nice Case Tim- what a Beauty!

Heres a very nice Knife I picked up with a Couple of Older Camillus Knives a while ago.

This Knife hits the spot in several areas, Stamped WARDS this is a UTICA made Knife and in every way this knife is superb!
Beautiful Golden Bone- The Walk and Talk is just so amazing! Coined Liners- Punch!
This Knife has hardly- if ever been used!

To be honest I wasnt too sure whether to put this in Charlies Cattle Knife to Stockman Thread or The Cattle Knife Thread, I feel with the Punch - even though being what we in the more modern days call this shape a Stockman - that this knife is more the Cattle Knife because of the Punch? I guess that one is open to discussion.

Thank you Sir.
Wow, very nice find. A beaut.

 

[Campbellclanman]

Thank you The Fort and Tim for the comments on the Utica! - poor photos do not do this Knife Justice!

 

[waynorth]

Stellar four-blade, Duncan! A fine machine.
A good example of the "lightning" punch!