Gaps between liner and spring?

Les himself said that since he has no surface grinder, he can't fit it any better. It's only fair to warn others that he's not capable of making a well fit slipjoint.
 
AR fan said:
Les himself said that since he has no surface grinder, he can't fit it any better. It's only fair to warn others that he's not capable of making a well fit slipjoint.
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You're way out of line, AR fan. Every single maker goes through a learning curve when they begin building slipjoints (or any knife). I think most of 'em hope that they will have customers with more understanding and appreciation for the art of knifemaking than you have just demonstrated with that statement.

Les told the original purchaser what the nits were with the knife. The original purchaser chose to keep the knife anyway knowing it was an early and imperfect work.

If you were not informed of the issues with the knife your beef is not with the maker but the person you bought it from. PERIOD.
 
I guess I need to point it out again. It's not the "learning curve".
Les himself said that since he has no surface grinder, he can't fit it any better. It's only fair to warn others that he's not capable of making a well fit slipjoint.
 
I think Les will end up getting more, not less business as a result of this thread.

On the other hand, I wonder how some other reputations will be perceived as a result of pettiness and mean spirited antics.

Les, put me on your list. We'll figure out what it'll be when the time comes.
 
Pettiness,mean spirited antics??? Where?
I showed the pics and quoted Les as writing that "he had no surface grinder and couldn't fit it any better than it is". His own words.
I haven't been "mean spirited or petty", I don't think I deserve to be threatened.
 
AR fan, your problem is not with Les. It is with the person that sold you the knife. Les was completely honest in his description of the knife when he sold it. It's the responsibilty of the person you got it from to pass that information along to you.
 
Kieth, on his web his website he shows past knives that are available for order. He shows a slipjoint #6 with great fit, so his statement that he cannot make a well fit slipjoint because he does not have a surface grinder doesn't wash. If he has to send the liners/spring away to have it done I will gladly pay for the work, I'm not expecting something for nothing. I just want a well fit knife, I don't know why that is so hard for people to understand.
 
AR fan said:
Kieth, on his web his website he shows past knives that are available for order. He shows a slipjoint #6 with great fit, so his statement that he cannot make a well fit slipjoint because he does not have a surface grinder doesn't wash. If he has to send the liners/spring away to have it done I will gladly pay for the work, I'm not expecting something for nothing. I just want a well fit knife, I don't know why that is so hard for people to understand.
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This has got way out of hand (what is GB&U ?) I assure you that there is a gap in the same place on #6, i did make some progress on getting it tighter but I QUIT making them after #9 because I was not making enough progress and it was taking 4 days to make a $250 knife, I'm pretty sure you can find a few people that I told I could not make them a slip joint right now. The #6 on my site that says I will make another is old and is a mistake, the picture of #3 doesn't show the gap either.

I'm very sorry that your disappointed in the knife. No knifemaker wants this kind of problem, but there is just nothing more I can do about it.

Again..... what is GB&U?
 
I think #6 is a great looking knife, that pic on your website is the reason I bought #3.
I don't mind seeing the seam, just didn't expect to see daylight between the liner and the spring.
 
Reading this thread, it sounds to me like Les is a stand-up guy and AR is dragging this on needlessly.
 
I rarely get involved in these types of threads but in reading through it I'll echo what others have said. AR, you should be speaking with the person you purchased the knife from.

I agree with you in the fact that I also would not be happy with that gap but Les has also stated he informed the original purchaser of this issue and he priced the knife accordingly. The orignal purchaser was satisfied and the deal was done. Les has also offered a credit with him for the sale price of the knife at $250. I think this is overly generous of Les and a solid offer. It's important to realize you are not Les' customer (since you bought "used") but I think he is generously treating you as if you were.

Enjoy the knife or return to the seller.
 
AR fan said:
Les himself said that since he has no surface grinder, he can't fit it any better. It's only fair to warn others that he's not capable of making a well fit slipjoint.
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Im sorry but this statement is way out of line and false. If you bought this from a dealer the dealer should have described this gap to you. Les is in my opinion a excellent knife maker and to make a blunt statement "that he is not capable of making a well fit slippie" is not true. Your emotions are doing the talking. If your unhappy with the knife return it for a refund. Its the Third slippie the guy has ever made for cripes sake...If you dont want it Ill take it..It looks like an awesome knife to me...

Ren
 
I think the original poster may have set his hopes a little high, he didn't say how much he paid, but if it's $250 or less, then IMO that's about right. After all 250 for a custom is just not possible any more.
 
DaveH said:
After all 250 for a custom is just not possible any more.
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Well, that's not quite the case though they do become more difficult to find. Go have a look in the Traditional Forum and you'll see a thread posted an hour or two ago with customs priced below that threshhold. (However, that's neither here nor there as regards the issues in this thread.)
 
"A deal is not a deal until both parties are happy"

As it it clear you are not happy just call the seller and undo the deal.

For a $250 handmade slipjoint that is one good looking EDC. I cannot think of one safe queen that can be bought for under $300.

I think you owe Les an apology and instead out the seller as it is he you should be pissed at..........
 
I remember when this knife went up for sale.
I remember Les's post about this knife.
Les was an is honest and straightforward and a good solid knife maker with excellent skills and he is also very creative.

Let's slow down a little and think about the situation.

He was starting to make slipjoints. He mentioned the gap in the for sale thread I saw and was without a doubt very open about it.

In my experience, it seems to be quite unreasonable to think your are going to get a slipjoint at that price from someone just starting off with those types of knives that is not going to have a flaw or two. In all honesty I have seen much worse gaps from makers just starting to make slippies. For what it is worth, from someone who has collected multiblades for a while and has more than my share of knives from folks starting out, I almost expect that type of a "flaw" or even a little worse.

I am willing to bet that this knife is a good bit a head of the "curve".

I felt Les' price was more than fair.

Now the above was just my opinion, based on a good bit of experience. I do not mean to inflame the situation and without a good bit of experience and if I purchased the knife without knowing about the gap, I might have questioned it too by talking to the maker.
 
The seller is outed.......That would be me. I honestly know very little about custom slip joints and never felt there was a problem with this one. It functions well, no play, flush at open, flush at half stop, flush closed. I honestly really liked the knife, it just wasn't getting used. AR, if there is a problem you should email me. I will always undo any trade.
 
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