GEC 86’s for 2023

Nebuchadnezzar said:
Even then, a 2mm pin seems pretty small. No illusions that these are pocket tanks, but that seems a bit on the small side.
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Indeed!
Nebuchadnezzar said:
It's also located off center which makes me wonder if it is the pivot.
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That is usual case for traditional knives of slip joint construction. You need the spring to be pretty wide near the blade tang, hence the non-centering. But it all depends on handle (bolster) width really.
Jiki said:
Not sure how the blade size fits into the equation, however 3 years of cutting with moderate and greater pressure has not had any negative affects on the pin in this knife. I would argue it gets used as much or more than most knives.
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Thank you! I must admit that blades on Pocket Carver are relatively short, so they should have less leverage against the spring for the axis rivet to deform, I think.
Nebuchadnezzar said:
Here is a case mini trapper, closer to 3mm, and slightly offset. 3mm compared to two is a 50% increase, and this is a smaller knife. Never had issues with any of my GEC's just surprised how little pin is needed for the task.
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Nebuchadnezzar said:
A full size Case Trapper has a pin a bit over 3mm. So at least with Case there is some correlation between pin and pattern size, for this sample of two. 😉
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Thanks! Though heads of the pins are usually of bigger diameter than their bodies (if that's a proper name for it). I'd say subtract one mm from the head's diameter.
 
Nebuchadnezzar said:
These are clearly sub standard knives and people need to stop buying them.😂 Miss the old days when vendors had all kinds of patterns in stock and it wasn't a mad dash.
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I feel that if I'd been on time for the old days I'd have a metric bleep-ton of fine traditional knives, a big 'ol bleep-eatin' grin on my face, and not a bleepin' dollar to my name. 🤣🤣🤣
 
birdsbeaks said:
I feel that if I'd been on time for the old days I'd have a metric bleep-ton of fine traditional knives, a big 'ol bleep-eatin' grin on my face, and not a bleepin' dollar to my name. 🤣🤣🤣
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There was no rush back then, you could appreciate a pattern without feeling the need to get it because it was available if you changed your mind. Far more penniless these days. This batch of 86's has me saving my lunch money already. 😁
 
Nebuchadnezzar said:
There was no rush back then, you could appreciate a pattern without feeling the need to get it because it was available if you changed your mind. Far more penniless these days. This batch of 86's has me saving my lunch money already. 😁
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lol. I'm just trying to cultivate the discipline needed not to eat at all anymore. 🤣
 
Jiki said:
Not by much. Wear one out and let me know.😉
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I am afraid that is not quite possible. I tend to use scissors (on my Leatherman) on daily basis 99% of time. Besides, if you can't wear it by constant carving, then no one can.
 
That marrow bone is calling my name. My dream knife would have “the ancients” finish on the bolsters, to go with those slabs of bone.
 
Oh man… soup bone. Those are going to be some very pretty knives. I want! (But I probably won’t buy. We’ll see if my resolve holds!)
 
im sure these will be highly sought after but ill say it anyway, i hope someone scores two and swaps a clip in or does a blade swap regardless, it would be dope to see this in factory stock soup bone with a clip like its smaller brethren
 
Alex.Y. said:
A little technical question here. They seem to use 2 mm diameter rivets for the blade pivot, even for bigger blades like these. Are those rivets made of nickel silver, as well as the bolsters? If so, is that enough to hold such a massive (relatively!) blade if being constantly used? I meen no stupid use, but say cutting something hard (again, relatively) which would require a more than mediocre pressure? Won't the rivet deform in some way being that thin? Any thoughts?
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I don't know if anyone has ever done a stress run on pivot pin strength, but I feel confident, given Bill's lifetime experience, that pin failure is low on the list of GEC'S complaints....
 
HEMI 49 said:
I don't know if anyone has ever done a stress run on pivot pin strength, but I feel confident, given Bill's lifetime experience, that pin failure is low on the list of GEC'S complaints....
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yup, id say Bill's got at least 50 years of experience, probably more. Im positive between him and Randy, they've got it dialed in
 
I had to replace the rivet that attaches an AK-47s gas piston to its bolt carrier and all I had was some brass 2mm pin stock. I'll replace it with the correct part if it ever wears out but that was over 5 years ago and it just keeps running. I'm not saying that the pin in question is subject to an incredible amount of stress, just likely more than any of my pocketknives see on a regular basis.

You won't catch me underestimating the ability of a 2mm pin.
 
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