Goodbye my friend....

Dear friends,

Thank you all for your suggestions and contributions. I have taken each and every one of them into consideration. I will make haste on acquiring a knife that will suit my needs as soon as possible. I will welcome any new experience, better or worst.

I have sent an email to Mr. Peter Hjortberger, and I have received an answer very promptly. I will send the knife to fallkniven as soon as possible, to determine if there was anything wrong with it. It was not my intention as I have mentioned already, but it would be inconsiderable of me, towards the manufacturer, not to, at this point. I will be waiting for the result of the examination by fallkniven, and update this post, or wait for mr. Hjortberger to do so.

This thread was intended to praise fallkniven's work and not diminish it. And so as not to make some of you suspect that I try to sweet-talk myself into a new expensive knife, I did this even before I knew that the manufacturer was reading it.

One of the wisest things I have heard in this post, is the phrase of mr. Hjortberger himself, that you cannot take the warranty with you in the woods. Nothing could be more accurate, and if you want my advice it is something that we should all consider very seriously.

I m glad that some of you have enjoyed this post. It means that its purpose has been accomplished.

Regards,
George
 
...and just to remember how it all started....
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True, the warranty is useless in the woods, but experience with and confidence in your gear is important. That's what a good warranty helps develop IMHO. Take care.
 
I may well be mistaken, but I think the phrase about the warranty in the woods referred to a paper document, not the good faith backing by the manufacturer. I have had an F1 in the bottom of one of my go bags for several years, and this thread has given me no reason to replace it. If anything, I have more confidence in Falkniven now than I did before.


jdk1 said:
True, the warranty is useless in the woods, but experience with and confidence in your gear is important. That's what a good warranty helps develop IMHO. Take care.
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Peter Hjortberger said:
Hello friends,

both Eric and I have said to each other that we wish to start this year by visiting the BladeForums community much more often.

We hope to share our experiences with you but preferably, take part of yours since we feel that we still have much to learn.

If our English is too bad, we ask for your help and kind assistance.

My best

Peter Hjortberger, founder
www.fallkniven.com
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Hello Mr. Hjortberger -

Thank you and Erik for your posting here. It makes me feel good about the manufacturers when they become part of our fanatical community.

You make beautiful knives and now I will have to try them out since you are "one of us" now!

very best regards -

mqqn (Andy)
 
Peter Hjortberger said:
Hello friends,

both Eric and I have said to each other that we wish to start this year by visiting the BladeForums community much more often.

We hope to share our experiences with you but preferably, take part of yours since we feel that we still have much to learn.

If our English is too bad, we ask for your help and kind assistance.

My best

Peter Hjortberger, founder
www.fallkniven.com
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Hello and Welcome. Please consider starting a Fallkniven subforum here. I'm sure that we would all benefit from it.thanks!
 
A short note about life time warranties: The reason why we don't offer such (with tiny text and many exceptions) is that you have no need of such in the woods.
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When I buy a knife I want to know that if it fails that the company will help me.

Most of these knives are of thick stock and advertised as "tough", "quality", "survival" knives.

If they aren't warrantied for that purpose then why shouldn't I just buy a Frosts Mora and a froe?

A thin Mora will cut better and not waste non-warrantied steel.

There is some confidence in knowing that when you go out that if the tool fails the maker has your back.

So ..... if you don't need the warranty in the woods .......... what happens when you get home with your two pieces of knife that used to be one ?

Even though the claim is that there are few warranties ......... I see a knife in two pieces.

Who covers the shipping to "see" what went wrong?

Battoning is here to stay and there are several makers out there that cover it.

If a collector out there decided to use his F1 two years and one day after purchase and there was a "flaw' in it ......... would the warranty be good ............. or is there no such need in the woods ?

I'll buy from folks that have an unconditional warranty ...... and recommend other do also.

Will Giorgos get a new knife ?!
 
Aside from the red circles, the fracture is quite interesting. IMO, what we can see is the difference in fracture of the 2 different steels. The harder, finer appearing core broke by high strength cleavage. The coarser appearing outer steel basically will have to tear. Notice I chose "coarser appearing." If the outer steel is indeed softer, and more ductile, this outer layer fracture is not indicative of grain size directly. There is some deformation, however slight, before the piece breaks. Once distorted to this degree, a microscope is required to see the grain size.

Also noteworthy is Fallkniven's desire to see what happened and improve their knives. They are the only knife manufacturer I know of to publish honest to goodness, university laboratory tests of their knives lateral strength properties. I don't have any Fallkniven knives, but this openness with how their knives actually perform is enough to make me want one.

I hope the Fallkniven representatives respond with their findings, either to Giorgos or here.
 
Brian Sargent said:
When I buy a knife I want to know that if it fails that the company will help me.

Most of these knives are of thick stock and advertised as "tough", "quality", "survival" knives.

If they aren't warrantied for that purpose then why shouldn't I just buy a Frosts Mora and a froe?

A thin Mora will cut better and not waste non-warrantied steel.

There is some confidence in knowing that when you go out that if the tool fails the maker has your back.

So ..... if you don't need the warranty in the woods .......... what happens when you get home with your two pieces of knife that used to be one ?

Even though the claim is that there are few warranties ......... I see a knife in two pieces.

Who covers the shipping to "see" what went wrong?

Battoning is here to stay and there are several makers out there that cover it.

If a collector out there decided to use his F1 two years and one day after purchase and there was a "flaw' in it ......... would the warranty be good ............. or is there no such need in the woods ?

I'll buy from folks that have an unconditional warranty ...... and recommend other do also.

Will Giorgos get a new knife ?!
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Great post:thumbup:
 
Let us hope that Eric and/or Peter write back to share their findings on Giorgio's broken knife. We can all learn from this, and it is wonderful when manufacturers' reps take the time to interact with our little community of enthusiasts.
 
Bill1170 said:
Let us hope that Eric and/or Peter write back to share their findings on Giorgio's broken knife. We can all learn from this, and it is wonderful when manufacturers' reps take the time to interact with our little community of enthusiasts.
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Who you callin' little?

:D

Moose
 
After reading so many rave reviews of Fallkniven knives, I was about ready to buy one until I read "made in Japan" .... Why? I have nothing against Japanese products, am an admirerer of Silky Saws (but own/use Bahco)... But I absolutely LOVE Swede, Finland, Norse blades and want it made there.. Why are they made in Japan? Cheaper to make?
For carving and light Bushcraft, Mora fills my needs just fine. Heavy work (like batoning), and I pull out the ESEE Rat 6.. You should really check them out...
 
Christof60 said:
After reading so many rave reviews of Fallkniven knives, I was about ready to buy one until I read "made in Japan" .... Why? I have nothing against Japanese products, am an admirerer of Silky Saws (but own/use Bahco)... But I absolutely LOVE Swede, Finland, Norse blades and want it made there.. Why are they made in Japan? Cheaper to make?
For carving and light Bushcraft, Mora fills my needs just fine. Heavy work (like batoning), and I pull out the ESEE Rat 6.. You should really check them out...
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The knives are made of VG10, guess where it's made? If you said, Europe you are incorrect. Japan will not export steel, however, KAI has American made knives that utilize VG10. They are the only large scale manufacturer that has done this that I know of. If you don't like the knives for whatever reason, that is your prerogative. It's a little too late, the horse is dead and been beaten a couple pages ago.
 
killgar said:
I've seen a lot of threads about chopping wood with knives but this one really takes the cake.

Sometimes the world of knife enthusiasts can be a very strange place.

What I'm reading is that sometimes a knife is a BETTER tool for chopping firewood than a hatchet. In all my years of camping, and all the wood I've chopped for fires, under various weather conditions, I've never once said to myself "Damn, I wish I had a big knife instead of this lousy hatchet!"

What I'm also reading is that by beating a knife until it breaks, against the manufacturers specific instructions, that it has somehow fulfilled it's knife destiny and died a glorious death. As if the only two options were to leave the knife in a drawer or beat on it till it breaks. I'm sure that if that knife had been used as it was designed to be used that it would have provided a lifetime of service and could have been passed on to future generations to provide them with a lifetime of service. Instead, it's now useless garbage.

I guess I was raised in an unusual manner. I was raised to always choose the right tool for the job. Naturally if you're in a survival situation you use whatever you have. But CHOOSING a knife to chop wood makes about as much sense to me as choosing a pipe wrench to hammer nails.

I understand that some people are REALLY into knives. That they REALLY love their knives. That they want to use their knives for any and all possible tasks. That they want to believe that their beloved knife is some kind of "SUPER TOOL" that can do anything. That they want to be able to brag about how tough their knife is and all the abuse they are able to throw at it. And of course it's your knife and you can do whatever you want with it. And I honestly couldn't care less. But it seems to me that in their "knife knut" fervor that some people have completely abandoned reasonable thought and departed from reality.

What I see is a very nice knife that died a pointless death. Just my opinion. Worth what you paid for it.
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Amen!
 
All our knives are being made in Japan by a conglomerate of small, highly specialized craftsmen companies. All sheaths are made in Europe or in the USA.
All design, test and development is being made by our company up here by the Arctic Circle. We also own all tools and molds for making the knives, including all sketches, drawings, technical specifications, logotypes etc. All distribution is made from here.
A small note - the iron comes from a mine just 140 kilometers north of us and comes back to us in a advanced shape.

So, we’re making Swedish knives in Japan.

But please do not compare us with Mora Sweden, they cost about $2-3 dollars here in Sweden, you get what you pay for if you know what i mean.

My best

//Eric.
www.FALLKNIVEN.com
 
I have to say that that line (bold below) is one of the all-time great posts here. :D :thumbup:

By the way, it's great to see you folks posting here. I have an F1 that lives in my briefcase, alongside a SureFire E2L and a few other tools for unexpected contingencies. It's a great knife - thanks.

Eric -SonOfTheViking said:
All our knives are being made in Japan by a conglomerate of small, highly specialized craftsmen companies. All sheaths are made in Europe or in the USA.
All design, test and development is being made by our company up here by the Arctic Circle. We also own all tools and molds for making the knives, including all sketches, drawings, technical specifications, logotypes etc. All distribution is made from here.
A small note - the iron comes from a mine just 140 kilometers north of us and comes back to us in a advanced shape.

So, we’re making Swedish knives in Japan.

But please do not compare us with Mora Sweden, they cost about $2-3 dollars here in Sweden, you get what you pay for if you know what i mean.

My best

//Eric.
www.FALLKNIVEN.com
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Well said Erik, thanks for that! I've got several Fallknivens, and love them. Very high quality, and some of my "go-to" knives in a lot of situations.
 
Hey people,

Mr. Hjortberger send me an email today, regarding the broken knife, which I have sent a couple of weeks ago to Fallkniven for inspection.

The knife was examined in Sweden, and then was also sent to Japan, to be more thoroughly examined.

It was concluded that it was a defective one, so....it will BE REPLACED! (even though Fallkniven is well aware of the kind of use I was doing at the time it broke)

As I understand it 99,9% of F1s out there, would have had no problem at all at this particular situation. I was just unlucky enough to buy one out of two-three knives that come with defects every year.:(

About the whole warranty/replacement thing....well let's just say that I seriously doubt that any other company out there would take such an interest in resolving this.

Happy as a clam.

Thank you bladeforum. The outcome of this thread is far beyond my expectations, if there where any to begin with.
 
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