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Great Eastern Cutlery Availability, Dealers, "Drops", Etc.: A Place for People to Vent
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Charlie sets the minimum selling price. Generally they are higher than normal runs because there is an additional layer to feed. On the Black Jacks, the typical dealer margin was almost exactly what it is on general production #86's. If it were a general production that cost ME the same, GEC's price would have been $162; on these it was $155 plus shipping.
Most dealers will sell them at the minimum price or very near. Some will go straight to eBay with a few. Others will price them to find the boundaries of the market. International dealers have to recoup customs, VAT, etc. A lot of variables in the equation.
Most dealers will sell them at the minimum price or very near. Some will go straight to eBay with a few. Others will price them to find the boundaries of the market. International dealers have to recoup customs, VAT, etc. A lot of variables in the equation.
You never know for sure, but seems like you mostly have it figured out correctly. Some things for you to consider. It will not be anything like a Northwoods drop. If I recall correctly, they will not set a specific date and time for a release. The trick here is to be prompt on getting to their site once you receive a notification. If I recall correctly I don't feel like they have a pattern for the day or time of the notification. I think this is possibly why you don't get the Northwoods type of couple minutes sell out... people are busy doing this when a random notification is sent. Its first come first served. Not one drop is the same as another.. some of their SFO's will stick around longer than others depending on popularity and cover options. I've done a couple SFO preorders with them for GEC knives. Now that I think about it DLT has done their GEC SFO's a couple different ways.. seems like the best you can do is sign up for notifications to keep most up to date if it will be a timed drop, untimed, or pre-order.
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This explains the single blade knives but not those extra 2 blade knives and the 2 blade “S” models sold for a markup.HEMI 49 You’re right, people can pay it or not, but funny you’re taking the opposite side of this when you, earlier in this thread, spoke out against people flipping knives. But hey, people paid it! I didn’t for a reason.
Here is my stance on a couple topics you seem to take exception with me on......
Flippers are opportunists that have no interest in the knife other than fleecing someone for as much as possible.... They will deprive you or I from a knife we might wish to buy at a fair price for a collection....... That knife that you or I wanted is now priced sky high.....The Flippers are betting that some poor sap will buy it from them.. Basically I feel that they have stolen my opportunity to purchase that knife ....... That Sir, is why I have no time or respect for flippers....
The other topic is what a dealer charges....... I trust the dealers that receive my business to be ethical and as fair as they can be...... They have to make money or they won't stay in business........ 50 years ago I worked in retail auto parts..... At that time you had to have 40% markup or you would soon be closing the doors.... If I feel someone is goughing me I just don't go back...... There are knife dealers all over the internet...... No one will be screwing people very long and stay in business....
Been there a few times. Nice place! I don’t have any exceptions with you, I just found it odd that suddenly his prices were much higher on the same knives that were available a short time ago for less. Then marking up the “S” knives that are usually marked down. I’m not the only one who thought this apparently.
Those words turned out to be prophetic today. I was cruising websites, happened to hit the KSF site around 12:45pm (EST) and saw the GEC 62 Unicorn Ivory. I ordered one on the spot and had my order in before 12:50pm. They sent their notification email out at 12:58pm and the Unicorns were all gone very shortly after that. Trying to buy these knives seems to be like playing that “Bop A Mole” carnie game in the county fair amusement midway, except in our game you miss the knife most of the time because it’s already gone. At least this time I caught what I was after.
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AFAIK, Lockheed has the Original “Skunk Works” where the U-2, SR-71 and other stealth planes for national defense
We’re designed & built under tight security ... The name seems to have stuck for any One if’s or specialty runs for cars, firearms & knives etc
Literally 0 Waynorth Black Jacks have been priced at 2x the dealer price here on BladeForums. Most were $200-$225. They were $155+ from dealers.
I second the opinion that you should check out the great database that @waverave has made, but I'll also answer your questions:
1) It depends. At least a month.
2) It depends. 5-15 is a good estimate I think.
3) I think generally all the dealers or many got the smooth white bone 2 blade #86s, they probably just sold out before you saw them.
Extremely useful as always
Always good to get a little insight from both sides of the table.
Logan,
I have specific data on SFO's and Charlie knives selling at "non-brotherly" prices, on the exchange and elsewhere; your sales included.... I don't think it is to anyone's advantage to point fingers.... Thus I'll leave my comment as I originally stated it.... However, as this forum exchange isn't the trading floor at Wall Street, I find knives selling for exorbitant prices to be counter to the spirit of the community....
But it’s ok for a blade forums member to raise prices beyond the standard selling point for regular and “S” model knives just because they have their own website? That’s fine to you but someone raising the price to sell here or on eBay is wrong?
Do you not see the hypocrisy that I’m seeing here?
Good for you. How is that helping you?
I sold a Waynorth Black Jack for $205 PayPal Goods shipped Priority. That’s less than they were from some dealers, and way less than 2x the original price. So your post was incorrect. You can dislike me, my sales, etc. as much as you want, but I’m not ashamed of selling a Black Jack at that price.
Also, what is brotherly? Do you get to decide what a fair price is out of some unilateral power? I have given my brothers lots of knives, does that mean I should give away my knives to everyone here?
I’ve profited off of some knives, and I’ve sold some knives for well under market value. We’re not all wearing pants with deep pockets, so we can’t all be self righteous about the prices knives are sold at.
I doubt it.
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Too many capitalists around here for anybody to be talking about "brotherly prices".
There are 350,000 members of this forum. Plenty of dealers and people looking to make money off of this hobby. If you can afford to post a knife for sale at a price so low that one of them is going to snatch it up within 20 seconds and have it on ebay for a healthy profit 3 days later, good for you.
There are 350,000 members of this forum. Plenty of dealers and people looking to make money off of this hobby. If you can afford to post a knife for sale at a price so low that one of them is going to snatch it up within 20 seconds and have it on ebay for a healthy profit 3 days later, good for you.
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all I know Is that Im jealous of Logans White Bone 86!!! great YT vid on your 86 collection BTW. My first GEC knife was the oily creek bone 86 and now with help from a member here I now have 2!!! one to use and one to keep safe.
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Im the same guy that tried to get the FMW Northwoods at the same time you got it lol.
it is a big jump and I pointed it out over at the blackjack forum, and got into lukewarm water for it. I bought mine direct from a dealer for $155. I will certainly be doing business with them again because I appreciate not putting a premium on a knife especially when you’re a dealer.
I have no problem with a secondary sale adding a markup, but I start to look sideways when you have dealers in the same market with the same goods, pricing then drastically differently (nearly $100 more). Ultimately it’s the dealers prerogative what to do, and I do not fault anyone for their decisions in a free market, but it will impact who, in a vacuum, I would choose do business with moving forward.
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Does anybody know how to communicate with Kifer Cutlery Classics? There’s no telephone number shown in their website but there is a website message option. I’ve sent them two separate messages via that option in the last couple weeks and I’ve gotten no response.